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Do you feel 90 days is long enough?  

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  1. 1. Do you think that K-1 marriages would be more successful if the period between arrival and madatory marriage were longer?

    • I think 90 days is too long
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    • I think 90 days is perfect
      25
    • I think it should be extended
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  2. 2. If you voted that it should be extended...how long should it be?

    • 6 months
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    • 9 months
      8
    • 1 year
      19
    • Other
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I believe you should have up to one year. But it goes beyond divorce rate improvement. One complaint I have, is 90 days is not enough time if you desire to marry in a particular season or on a meaningful date. I think it sucks that if my fiancée arrives in the autumn we have no way to marry in the spring or summer when it's warm! I find it unacceptable that the USCIS is virtually deciding our wedding dates. :angry:

I agree with you on that, KT. The K-1 visa pretty much rules out being able to choose a definite date and make plans for it.

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I believe you should have up to one year. But it goes beyond divorce rate improvement. One complaint I have, is 90 days is not enough time if you desire to marry in a particular season or on a meaningful date. I think it sucks that if my fiancée arrives in the autumn we have no way to marry in the spring or summer when it's warm! I find it unacceptable that the USCIS is virtually deciding our wedding dates. :angry:
Eh, there is a six-month window in which the K-1 holder can arrive in the US--which probably addresses your complaint.

2005/07/10 I-129F filed for Pras

2005/11/07 I-129F approved, forwarded to NVC--to Chennai Consulate 2005/11/14

2005/12/02 Packet-3 received from Chennai

2005/12/21 Visa Interview Date

2006/04/04 Pras' entry into US at DTW

2006/04/15 Church Wedding at Novi (Detroit suburb), MI

2006/05/01 AOS Packet (I-485/I-131/I-765) filed at Chicago

2006/08/23 AP and EAD approved. Two down, 1.5 to go

2006/10/13 Pras' I-485 interview--APPROVED!

2006/10/27 Pras' conditional GC arrives -- .5 to go (2 yrs to Conditions Removal)

2008/07/21 I-751 (conditions removal) filed

2008/08/22 I-751 biometrics completed

2009/06/18 I-751 approved

2009/07/03 10-year GC received; last 0.5 done!

2009/07/23 Pras files N-400

2009/11/16 My 46TH birthday, Pras N-400 approved

2010/03/18 Pras' swear-in

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Personally I've always thought that a shorter period between meeting and marriage made the marriage *more* likely to succeed, not less, but that's based on purely anecdotal evidence.

Bethany (NJ, USA) & Gareth (Scotland, UK)

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05 Nov 2007: NOA-1 Date

28 Dec 2007: Check cashed

05 Jan 2008: NOA-1 Received

02 Feb 2008: Biometrics notice received

23 Feb 2008: Biometrics at Albuquerque ASC

12 Jun 2008: Interview letter received

12 Aug 2008: Interview at Albuquerque DO--PASSED!

15 Aug 2008: Oath Ceremony

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Personally I've always thought that a shorter period between meeting and marriage made the marriage *more* likely to succeed, not less, but that's based on purely anecdotal evidence.

I disagree, I think it depends on the couple.

My husband and I DID live together before we met (just in his country, not the U.S.).

I voted that 90 days is enough but I think an extension up to 6 months wouldn't be too much to ask. I know that once you are granted the visa you have up to 6 months to arrive, but for us it was easier not to since my husband had to travel quite a distance for the interview - we met up there and flew to the U.S. together.

If people want to plan their weddings it makes it easier to have more time before the 90 days are up - so that is why I'd support the 6 months time period.

But that does not mean that I think the K1 visa is a "let's try this out" - if you are applying for K1 you should already know you want to marry that person.

11/2004 - Met in Brazil

09/2006 - Apply for K1

03/2007 - K1 approved

04/2007 - Apply for AOS & EAD

07/2007 - EAD approved

01/2008 - Conditional Residency approved

11/2009 - Apply to remove conditions

02/2010 - Permanent Residency approved

11/2010 - Apply for Citizenship

03/2011 - Citizenship approved

07/2011 - Moved back to Brazil

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Personally I've always thought that a shorter period between meeting and marriage made the marriage *more* likely to succeed, not less, but that's based on purely anecdotal evidence.

I disagree, I think it depends on the couple.

My husband and I DID live together before we met (just in his country, not the U.S.).

I voted that 90 days is enough but I think an extension up to 6 months wouldn't be too much to ask. I know that once you are granted the visa you have up to 6 months to arrive, but for us it was easier not to since my husband had to travel quite a distance for the interview - we met up there and flew to the U.S. together.

If people want to plan their weddings it makes it easier to have more time before the 90 days are up - so that is why I'd support the 6 months time period.

But that does not mean that I think the K1 visa is a "let's try this out" - if you are applying for K1 you should already know you want to marry that person.

I can see the reasoning in getting married during a certain time of the year, but I would think if the couple was serious about a long-term relationship they would want to get married ASAP. I married my wife in her country as she wanted but if we had gone the K-1 route, we would have probably been married within a few days of her arrival.

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Event Date

Service Center : Vermont Service Center

Consulate : Manilla, Philipines

Marriage : 2007-05-24

I-130 Sent : 2007-08-28

I-130 NOA1 : 2008-02-15 receipt date

I-130 NOA2: 2008-09-02 Hardcopy

I-129F Sent : 2008-02-29

I-129F NOA1 : 2008-03-03

I-129F RFE(s) : None

RFE Reply(s) : None

I-129F NOA2 : 2008-08-26 (email)

I-129F NOA2: 2008-09-02 Hardcopy

NVC Received :2008-09-04

NVC Left : 2008-09-04

Consulate Received :2008-09-12

Packet 3 Received :

Packet 3 Sent :

Packet 4 Received :

Medical: 2008-09-23,24

Sputum Test Passed, complete medical: 2008-12-08

Interview Date : 2008-12-22, White Slips, need current marriage index and CENOMAR

Visa Received : 2009-01-19

US Entry : 2009-02-01

I-130 Approval : 2008-08-26

Comments :

Processing

Estimates/Stats : Your I-129f was approved in 179 days from your filing date.

Your I-130 was approved in 364 days from your filing date.

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The 6 months + 3 months is fine if you're willing to be apart from your SO for a longer period of time...if you're not, you're stuck with the time frame that USCIS gives you...

I would like to have the option of six months in the US...I wouldn't have to go through 2 weddings (a little redundant, IMHO, but such is life...)!

Dawn

Our journey to be together (work in progress)

March 2007 - Met online

1/28/08 - Sent I-129F to VSC

5/13/08 - Visa in hand!!!

7/7/08 - POE

7/11/08 - legal wedding

7/20/08 - AOS/EAD/AP sent to Chicago Lockbox

11/18/08 - AOS approved!!!

11/25/08 - Received welcome letter...and Green Card!!!

12/21/08 - ceremonial wedding

10/9/10 - Sent I-751 and started the fresh hell that is ROC

10/14/10 - NOA1 for ROC

10/29/10 - received appointment for Biometrics

11/22/10 - Biometrics appointment

Currently: Living blissfully with my Essex lad...

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Exactly! :thumbs: K-1 is not a shack-up visa, the couple are committed to marriage shortly after arrival.

Well said. I totally agree!

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K-1 Timeline 4 months, 19 days 03-10-08 VSC to 7-29-08 Interview London

10-05-08 Married

AOS Timeline 5 months, 14 days 10-9-08 to 3-23-09 No interview

Removing Conditions Timeline 5 months, 20 days12-27-10 to 06-10-11 No interview

Citizenship Timeline 3 months, 26 days 12-31-11 Dallas to 4-26-12 Interview Houston

05-16-12 Oath ceremony

The journey from Fiancé to US citizenship:

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Filed: Other Country: Morocco
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Your poll pre-supposes that the 3 month time limitation is a get-to-know-you period. It is not. The time between meeting and committing to an engagement is. When you become engaged you are saying "I am willing to marry you and spend the rest of my life with you." When you come to the US on a K-1 visa you are sealing the deal..... not giving it a trial run.

Amen to that Sister Krikit!

Very well said Krikit! That's why VWPs were invented..a three month opportunity to grasp whether you can live with your fiance or not! Marriage is a life long commitment end of.

VWPs are great for the people who live in those countries. There are a lot of people that dont have that option.

and as has already been mentioned, there is often a big difference between being engaged and actually living together day to day. When you add to that the stress of immigration and culture adjustment, well, it can be very tumultuous. I agree that the time shouldnt be used as a get to know you type thing but I also think its important to realize sometimes the reality is just not what either or both parties expected. Thats kind of inherent in long distance relationships, isnt it? so what would be the harm in having a little extra time for those couples who need it?

(having said that, I married my husband the day after he arrived here 3 and a half years ago so we didnt waste any time :P )

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Your poll pre-supposes that the 3 month time limitation is a get-to-know-you period. It is not. The time between meeting and committing to an engagement is. When you become engaged you are saying "I am willing to marry you and spend the rest of my life with you." When you come to the US on a K-1 visa you are sealing the deal..... not giving it a trial run.

Exactly! :thumbs: K-1 is not a shack-up visa, the couple are committed to marriage shortly after arrival.

I absolutely agree

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07-25-07 petition sent

08-07-07 NOA1

01-23-08 NOA2, 182 days after filing

02-11-08 medical

03-04-08 interview in Frankfurt---approved!

03-11-8 Visa in hand --- what a heck of a procedure for this little sticker ;-)

06-16-08 flight to IAD

07-11-08 Wedding in Santa Barbara, CA

08-07-8 AOS package sent

08-10-08 AOS package delivered to Chicago lockbox

08-14-08 check cashed

08-13-08 NOA1 for EAD,AP,AOS

09-03-08 Biometrics appointment

10-02-08 Case transferred to CSC

10-16-08 EAD and AP approved

01-26-09 AOS approved w/o interview

01-31-09 PERMANENT RESIDENT CARD RECEIVED

02-11-11 Biometric Appointment for Removing of Conditions

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I would hate to impose on my friends to house my SO for any onger than I have to. I do NOT believe in living together before getting married.

I agree..in our case it was different though because I still lived with my family, so he stayed with my family when he came over. My sister let him have her room and she moved into my room.

I think there should be an option for more than 90 days. Not because of getting to know each other, bc I agree that it's not a "get to know you" visa. But because of things like planning the wedding, and letting the SO get their feet established a little more. So they should get the EAD soon after arrival IMO so they can start working and making money to contribute to the upcoming marriage if need be. Like in our case, Sujeet would have loved if he could have worked before we got married and got his own place which I would move to after the marriage. But bc of the EAD stuff we had to live with my family after marriage for a few months until he started working. I didn't make enough at my job to move out.

We wanted to get married as soon as possible after his arrival so that he got his EAD as soon as possible.

Also with the worrisome visa process, some couples just don't know when to plan the wedding for until the visa is approved. If there was more time after they came here, the wedding plans wouldn't be so stressful and last minute. And after being apart for 11 months I didn't want to stay apart even longer just so I could plan a bigger wedding. I loved my wedding but it was much smaller than the wedding I would have planned if I had more knowledge of the wedding date ahead of time.

Married since 9-18-04(All K1 visa & GC details in timeline.)

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I would hate to impose on my friends to house my SO for any onger than I have to. I do NOT believe in living together before getting married.

I agree..in our case it was different though because I still lived with my family, so he stayed with my family when he came over. My sister let him have her room and she moved into my room.

I think there should be an option for more than 90 days. Not because of getting to know each other, bc I agree that it's not a "get to know you" visa. But because of things like planning the wedding, and letting the SO get their feet established a little more. So they should get the EAD soon after arrival IMO so they can start working and making money to contribute to the upcoming marriage if need be. Like in our case, Sujeet would have loved if he could have worked before we got married and got his own place which I would move to after the marriage. But bc of the EAD stuff we had to live with my family after marriage for a few months until he started working. I didn't make enough at my job to move out.

We wanted to get married as soon as possible after his arrival so that he got his EAD as soon as possible.

Also with the worrisome visa process, some couples just don't know when to plan the wedding for until the visa is approved. If there was more time after they came here, the wedding plans wouldn't be so stressful and last minute. And after being apart for 11 months I didn't want to stay apart even longer just so I could plan a bigger wedding. I loved my wedding but it was much smaller than the wedding I would have planned if I had more knowledge of the wedding date ahead of time.

I agree the EAD should be effective when they come over, but since it is not, there is even more incentive to get married imeadiately upon reuniting in the U.S. Even if we had 6 months or more to get married after the SO arrived here, we would still get married relatively quick. We would want to start the AOS so that she could get her citizenship sooner, along with the EAD and especially the AP.

12-14-07 Sent K-1 petition

12-17-07 Received NOA1

01-06-08 Got engaged!!!

02-21-08 NOA2 Approved

02-27-08 NVC processed petition

02-28-08 Received NOA2 in mail

03-03-08 Consulate in Rio de Janeiro received petition

03-21-08 Received packet for interview

04-22-08 Visa Interview and Visa APPROVED!

05-06-08 Visa received in mail

07-28-08 Wedding Date (Reception was 26th, but forgot to reigster for MC...oops)

10-04-08 Applied for AOS (EAD and AP also)

10-09-08 NOA1 for I-485

10-27-08 I-485 transferred to CSC

11-04-08 I-485 Biometrics appointment

11-13-08 NOA1 for EAD

12-09-08 EAD Biometrics appointment

01-08-09 AP Approved

01-13-09 AP Received

Cost of 3 roundtrip tickets to Brazil in last 3 years...... $2,900+

Cost of filing petitions for K-1 visa & AOS.................... $1,465+

Cost of monthly calling cards to Brazil........................$20

Cost of marrying the woman of my dreams.... PRICELESS

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Exactly , I dont want to get married in a snow storm.

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11/18/2007--------I-129F Petition mailed to CSC

11/29/2007--------NOA1

04/02/2008 --------NOA2 Approved (On my B-Day)

05/08/2008---------Forwarded to ISL

05/12/2008---------Consulate Received

05/22/2008---------Packet 3.5 Received by my Fiance

06/06/2008---------Packet 3.5 Returned to Embassy

06/19/2008---------Recieved Packet 4

06/25/2008---------Medical

07/08/2008---------Interview

03/06/2009---------Visa in Hand

03/23/2009---------POE Chicago

03/24/2009---------Marriage

08/05/2009---------GC in Mail

09/13/2009---------First Job in US

Naturalization

01/28/15------------mailed packet to USIS

02/06/15-------------NOA

02/27/15-------------Biometrics Appt.

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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Your poll pre-supposes that the 3 month time limitation is a get-to-know-you period. It is not. The time between meeting and committing to an engagement is. When you become engaged you are saying "I am willing to marry you and spend the rest of my life with you." When you come to the US on a K-1 visa you are sealing the deal..... not giving it a trial run.

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  • 07/17/07 Returned from two months in China. All K1 documents 'in hand'.
  • 07/19/07 Completed preparation of I-129F & associated documentation. Mailed it.
  • 08/03/07 Received NOA1 from the CSC.
  • 12/13/07 Received NOA2 from the CSC.
  • 01/23/08 NVC sent our case to U.S. Consulate in Guangzhou China.
  • 03/31/08 U.S. Consulate in Guangzhou China received, issued case number.
  • 04/05/08 P3 received.
  • 04/06/08 P3 sent.
  • 05/01/08 P4 received.
  • 05/12/08 Flight to China.
  • 06/23/08 Interview at U.S. Consulate in Guangzhou China- PINK.
  • 06/25/08 K1 & K2 visas received.
  • 07/09/08 We all arrive in America, Chicago POE
  • 08/06/08 Fiancee receives SSN (req. for marriage in our state)
  • 08/08/08 Married
  • 09/01/08 Moved into new house. AR-11's filed for wife & son.
  • 09/19/08 AOS / EAD package mailed.
  • 09/25/08 AOS / EAD NOAs.
  • 10/02/08 Biometrics letters.
  • 10/16/08 Biometrics taken.
  • 10/17/08 Case transferred to CSC.
  • 12/08/08 EADs approved / EAD cards issued.
  • 03/05/09 AOS approved.
  • 03/12/09 Green Cards received.
  • 09/17/10 Application for Lifting Conditions Mailed.
  • 10/04/10 NOA1
  • 10/19/10 Biometrics Taken.
  • 01/07/11 Removal of Conditions Approved
  • 02/26/12 Still Happily Married & Doing Well

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