marriage between muslim women and non muslim men . HALAL or Haram

[brnidokiegurl 0]

I would venture to guess that an extremely small percentage (like less than 10) of MENA male immigrants are 100% financially responsible for their household, at least the first few years.

I find it laughable that these guys are producing so much "proof" of Islamic rulings to back their certain beliefs but not a one of them will be able to do their Islamic duty of financially supporting their family when they get here. I would also venture to guess that many of these men have accepted large sums of money and or gifts from their wives giving little in return.

:thumbs: :thumbs:

ask them again about the supporting 6 months from now

wow jackie is talented

[mohamed N melinda 0]

Whos not getting any? I don't know about moody but my laundry is gettin done WHILE I am drinking REAL coffee.

lol

jakie look at her siggy . you will know why i told her that

she knew why

i was kidding any way

[ya falaha! 0]

I understand it depends on the man that is why I didn't say *all* men can't provide or take money from their wives. But you have to admit that most new immigrants will have a hard time providing the first year at the very least.

[~Jackie~ 30]

What is in my siggy anyway? hmmmmm

[brnidokiegurl 0]

sorry read back and you will see there are others that have same experiences and say same thing (most of the men) are spoiled at home.....

[aisha kandisha 0]

Never meant as a offence to anyone but this is a idea these men have project here before its not new that if you think good thoughts all will be well, well its not always true life happens. THey are not used to women contradicting them or speaking back, thats not new either. THe woemn there do cater to their men, not all do here. that was my only point, that if they come here expecting this they will be surprised. no more or no less

You don't see anything wrong with generalizing Middle Eastern/North African women this way

Guess im either wrong of miss you point, (most) men that i know of and know of their life are catered to by their mothers and sisters. They are not required to cook or clean etc they come home to everything done. I know these that have said this about not talking back to them or if we lived back in morocco you u would never.....i do feel that (some) come here with this mancho idea still with them maybe im wrong lets ask the others especially about the catering part....ok girls was your guys spoiled and catered to when at home and was there ever a time when the attitude came forth after they got here???? mine is not here but i did see the family life style of many and do know of my friends here that have spoken after their guys got here, and truthfully if you hve been on board for any length of time you will see the number of problems that arise and how many just couldnt adjust. I just speak of what i saw, if yours is different great....

Manchos are always bad ideas.

[morocco4ever 63]

I think he means Moody's siggy. I think I know why she put that one...lol

[sarahaziz 0]

Women cover themselves to hide beauty not to lead men to follow them right? How would you spread islam if you stop the women from luring non-muslim men?

[Gaby&Talbert 1]

I believe especiall like these two that they see themselves as the big rulers, american women are basically a little more self sufficient, most have been married, divorced have had to keep the home and the kids going. Our men will come here, most will have to wait to work and basically dependent on us for awhile, i just see some coming here all gunho to do this and that and it dont work like this.

I know of a few that come here and the couples argue, the first thing out of the guys mouth is OH NO ONE EVER TALK TO ME LIKE THAT BEFORE...or IF WE WERE BACK IN MOROCCO YOU WOULD NEVER .....at their homes they are just used to being spoiled and catered to by the mothers and sisters

My husband has said that before in the heat of an argument, lol. He said most of the women don't argue back. My husband also knows that the majority of men their are spoiled by the wives, mothers, and sisters. He was one of them as well.

I guess all men can be broken like a horse and trained. Throughout history mothers have been the ones to teach faith and religion in families. If the mother isn't strong in her faith the children most likely will not be either.

[sara535 15]

there are few things more obnoxious than people who think their personal experiences are reflective of the rest of the world. if someone wishes to only speak of what they saw, it should be preceded by a "i'm only relating what i've seen or experienced" instead of a broad, demeaning generalization.

Just out of curiosity here, do you disagree that IN GENERAL most MENA countries are somewhat male-centric? I capitalize the in general because I do realize that there are always exceptions....

[~Jackie~ 30]

ahhhh cuz of moodys sig...why do i take everything so personal? lol

----------who cares if this type marriage is haram or halal? Not for ANY of us to judge.

Jackie

[morocco4ever 63]

Never meant as a offence to anyone but this is a idea these men have project here before its not new that if you think good thoughts all will be well, well its not always true life happens. THey are not used to women contradicting them or speaking back, thats not new either. THe woemn there do cater to their men, not all do here. that was my only point, that if they come here expecting this they will be surprised. no more or no less

You don't see anything wrong with generalizing Middle Eastern/North African women this way

Guess im either wrong of miss you point, (most) men that i know of and know of their life are catered to by their mothers and sisters. They are not required to cook or clean etc they come home to everything done. I know these that have said this about not talking back to them or if we lived back in morocco you u would never.....i do feel that (some) come here with this mancho idea still with them maybe im wrong lets ask the others especially about the catering part....ok girls was your guys spoiled and catered to when at home and was there ever a time when the attitude came forth after they got here???? mine is not here but i did see the family life style of many and do know of my friends here that have spoken after their guys got here, and truthfully if you hve been on board for any length of time you will see the number of problems that arise and how many just couldnt adjust. I just speak of what i saw, if yours is different great....

My hand is raised on this topic.

Never meant as a offence to anyone but this is a idea these men have project here before its not new that if you think good thoughts all will be well, well its not always true life happens. THey are not used to women contradicting them or speaking back, thats not new either. THe woemn there do cater to their men, not all do here. that was my only point, that if they come here expecting this they will be surprised. no more or no less

My hand is raised.

You don't see anything wrong with generalizing Middle Eastern/North African women this way

Guess im either wrong of miss you point, (most) men that i know of and know of their life are catered to by their mothers and sisters. They are not required to cook or clean etc they come home to everything done. I know these that have said this about not talking back to them or if we lived back in morocco you u would never.....i do feel that (some) come here with this mancho idea still with them maybe im wrong lets ask the others especially about the catering part....ok girls was your guys spoiled and catered to when at home and was there ever a time when the attitude came forth after they got here???? mine is not here but i did see the family life style of many and do know of my friends here that have spoken after their guys got here, and truthfully if you hve been on board for any length of time you will see the number of problems that arise and how many just couldnt adjust. I just speak of what i saw, if yours is different great....

Manchos are always bad ideas.

Is Manchos anything like Nachos? That sounds yummy!

[brnidokiegurl 0]

Never meant as a offence to anyone but this is a idea these men have project here before its not new that if you think good thoughts all will be well, well its not always true life happens. THey are not used to women contradicting them or speaking back, thats not new either. THe woemn there do cater to their men, not all do here. that was my only point, that if they come here expecting this they will be surprised. no more or no less

You don't see anything wrong with generalizing Middle Eastern/North African women this way

Guess im either wrong of miss you point, (most) men that i know of and know of their life are catered to by their mothers and sisters. They are not required to cook or clean etc they come home to everything done. I know these that have said this about not talking back to them or if we lived back in morocco you u would never.....i do feel that (some) come here with this mancho idea still with them maybe im wrong lets ask the others especially about the catering part....ok girls was your guys spoiled and catered to when at home and was there ever a time when the attitude came forth after they got here???? mine is not here but i did see the family life style of many and do know of my friends here that have spoken after their guys got here, and truthfully if you hve been on board for any length of time you will see the number of problems that arise and how many just couldnt adjust. I just speak of what i saw, if yours is different great....

My hand is raised on this topic.

Never meant as a offence to anyone but this is a idea these men have project here before its not new that if you think good thoughts all will be well, well its not always true life happens. THey are not used to women contradicting them or speaking back, thats not new either. THe woemn there do cater to their men, not all do here. that was my only point, that if they come here expecting this they will be surprised. no more or no less

My hand is raised.

You don't see anything wrong with generalizing Middle Eastern/North African women this way

Guess im either wrong of miss you point, (most) men that i know of and know of their life are catered to by their mothers and sisters. They are not required to cook or clean etc they come home to everything done. I know these that have said this about not talking back to them or if we lived back in morocco you u would never.....i do feel that (some) come here with this mancho idea still with them maybe im wrong lets ask the others especially about the catering part....ok girls was your guys spoiled and catered to when at home and was there ever a time when the attitude came forth after they got here???? mine is not here but i did see the family life style of many and do know of my friends here that have spoken after their guys got here, and truthfully if you hve been on board for any length of time you will see the number of problems that arise and how many just couldnt adjust. I just speak of what i saw, if yours is different great....

Manchos are always bad ideas.

Is Manchos anything like Nachos? That sounds yummy!

but Nachos are good

[sereia 0]

she said "mancho" HAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

[LaL 418]

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