marriage between muslim women and non muslim men . HALAL or Haram

[abdo 0]

I stayed quiet as I was reading the multi pages of this topic that has been over-discussed and I just can't get past this one without commenting.

Ok, here's what I have to say. I'm not sure where u went to muslim school at BUT I recall shehada stating that I believe in only 1 God and that Prophet Mohammed was a messenger of God. NOW where in there does it say ..I believe in only 1 God and I love prophet Mohammed???

I'm a muslimah and I believe that to be muslim , you have to say shehadah and truely believe it. Everything else will come in time but u HAVE to believe in shehadah. If, in fact, Shehada stated that I believe in only 1 God but love prophet Mohammed, I wouldn't have said it BECAUSE in Islam, nobody is to idolize any of the prophets as they all carried the message from THE SAME GOD.

I believe in Prophet Mohammed and that he was a messenger of God. I am Muslim. I do not "love" the Prophet but I do respect him very much as he was chosen by the one and only God to bring the message to the people.

Thank you

*steps off of soap box and quietly returns to the agonizing wait for news*

amal

Is love the same thing as idolization?

Nope, it sure isn't. Shehada says nothing about if u wanna be muslim that u have to love Prophet Mohammed. It just says that u should believe he was a messenger of God. And I do. I think saying that u HAVE to love him in order to be muslim is an overstatement. It's not bad to love him but it isn't a requirement. U can be muslim as long as u believe he brought the true message of God.

you should love MOHAMED more than you love yourself ... : MOHAMED says this

and you can be muslim as long as you believe that LA ILAHA ILA ALLAH MOHAMED RASSOLO ALLAH

you have to go ask if you dont believe me AMAL?

i cant believe why people say they are muslim and they give something bad about ISLAM im trying to help them and they think i am not...!!!

ok, i do believe that. and where, in that statement, does it say that i have to love Prophet Mohammed? Having said that, I do appreciate what he did and respect him very much. But the word "love" is not required. I don't have to defend anything coz my relationship is with God alone and it is to remain that way. Nobody is to tell me that I'm not Muslim. God knows my intents and I know that within myself, all of my intents are pure and with good intention so I have absolutely no worries. Praise be to Allah and all of his messengers!!!

PLEASE AMAL YOU CAN JUST ASK IMAM OR 3ALIM AND I AM SURE YOU WILL GET A GOOD ANSWER..

YOU SHOULD LOVE GOD AND MOHAMED TOGETHER BECAUSE IN CHAHADA YOU SAY : la ilaha ila allah mohamed rassolo allah.

if you dont believe me then ask!!! and to love mohamed that means you should do what he wants you to do and respect him and talk sweet about him and dont lie about him and always ask for peace and sallat for him from GOD

[Jenn! 918]

Being a good Muslim sure does seem like a full-time job, with all of the rest of the world's Muslimness to keep tabs on and all.

I just don't know you guys do it! Bravi!

[amal 4]

Just to make sure u understand this, Abdou, when someone says they don't have to "love" Prophet Mohammed...It does not mean that they don't believe in him and respect him (and the other prophets) the same. They are not saying that he is bad or not true. They like him and follow his teachings and agree with what he brought. How is that anti-Islamic?

[RAKASA 0]

i cant believe why people say they are muslim and they give something bad about ISLAM im trying to help them and they think i am not...!!![/b]

What is particularly helpful about telling Muslim women they are not Muslim?

Nothing is helpful...I don't know about you guys, but anything I want to know about Islam I will ask my husband about it.

I am NOT Muslim and know about as much about it as he does. I am just wondering if he does everything exactly as his religion states?? Like how many muslim men smoke cigarettes and you are not suppose to....how many watch porn or look at naked women....

I sure don't need anyone telling me who I am allowed to love and who is allowed to marry....this is now where I will agree with the other girls and say..."who cares"??? Why do you care? Go pray for us or something if you want to help...i dunno

I wonder if Abdo is smoking as he is wailing away on the computer at us? Does that make him less Muslim?

[amal 4]

I stayed quiet as I was reading the multi pages of this topic that has been over-discussed and I just can't get past this one without commenting.

Ok, here's what I have to say. I'm not sure where u went to muslim school at BUT I recall shehada stating that I believe in only 1 God and that Prophet Mohammed was a messenger of God. NOW where in there does it say ..I believe in only 1 God and I love prophet Mohammed???

I'm a muslimah and I believe that to be muslim , you have to say shehadah and truely believe it. Everything else will come in time but u HAVE to believe in shehadah. If, in fact, Shehada stated that I believe in only 1 God but love prophet Mohammed, I wouldn't have said it BECAUSE in Islam, nobody is to idolize any of the prophets as they all carried the message from THE SAME GOD.

I believe in Prophet Mohammed and that he was a messenger of God. I am Muslim. I do not "love" the Prophet but I do respect him very much as he was chosen by the one and only God to bring the message to the people.

Thank you

*steps off of soap box and quietly returns to the agonizing wait for news*

amal

Is love the same thing as idolization?

Nope, it sure isn't. Shehada says nothing about if u wanna be muslim that u have to love Prophet Mohammed. It just says that u should believe he was a messenger of God. And I do. I think saying that u HAVE to love him in order to be muslim is an overstatement. It's not bad to love him but it isn't a requirement. U can be muslim as long as u believe he brought the true message of God.

you should love MOHAMED more than you love yourself ... : MOHAMED says this

and you can be muslim as long as you believe that LA ILAHA ILA ALLAH MOHAMED RASSOLO ALLAH

you have to go ask if you dont believe me AMAL?

i cant believe why people say they are muslim and they give something bad about ISLAM im trying to help them and they think i am not...!!!

ok, i do believe that. and where, in that statement, does it say that i have to love Prophet Mohammed? Having said that, I do appreciate what he did and respect him very much. But the word "love" is not required. I don't have to defend anything coz my relationship is with God alone and it is to remain that way. Nobody is to tell me that I'm not Muslim. God knows my intents and I know that within myself, all of my intents are pure and with good intention so I have absolutely no worries. Praise be to Allah and all of his messengers!!!

PLEASE AMAL YOU CAN JUST ASK IMAM OR 3ALIM AND I AM SURE YOU WILL GET A GOOD ANSWER..

YOU SHOULD LOVE GOD AND MOHAMED TOGETHER BECAUSE IN CHAHADA YOU SAY : la ilaha ila allah mohamed rassolo allah.

if you dont believe me then ask!!! and to love mohamed that means you should do what he wants you to do and respect him and talk sweet about him and dont lie about him and always ask for peace and sallat for him from GOD

Ok, I'm gonna say this one more time...if I type slowly, you might understand it.....

la ilaha ila allah mohamed rassolo allah DOES NOT SAY that I have to love Prophet Mohammed. It says that I believe in 1 god and that mohammed is a messenger of god...thats what it says and thats what we are trying to get u to understand.

I think you're misunderstanding what we're saying so please, sit back and read slowly and try to understand the context in which we're making this statement. Shehada does not say there is only 1 god and I love Prophet Mohammed.......it says there is but 1 god and mohammed is a messenger of god.... I'm not sure how much more planely I can tell u this.

[nana_356 0]

I stayed quiet as I was reading the multi pages of this topic that has been over-discussed and I just can't get past this one without commenting.

Ok, here's what I have to say. I'm not sure where u went to muslim school at BUT I recall shehada stating that I believe in only 1 God and that Prophet Mohammed was a messenger of God. NOW where in there does it say ..I believe in only 1 God and I love prophet Mohammed???

I'm a muslimah and I believe that to be muslim , you have to say shehadah and truely believe it. Everything else will come in time but u HAVE to believe in shehadah. If, in fact, Shehada stated that I believe in only 1 God but love prophet Mohammed, I wouldn't have said it BECAUSE in Islam, nobody is to idolize any of the prophets as they all carried the message from THE SAME GOD.

I believe in Prophet Mohammed and that he was a messenger of God. I am Muslim. I do not "love" the Prophet but I do respect him very much as he was chosen by the one and only God to bring the message to the people.

Thank you

*steps off of soap box and quietly returns to the agonizing wait for news*

amal

Is love the same thing as idolization?

Nope, it sure isn't. Shehada says nothing about if u wanna be muslim that u have to love Prophet Mohammed. It just says that u should believe he was a messenger of God. And I do. I think saying that u HAVE to love him in order to be muslim is an overstatement. It's not bad to love him but it isn't a requirement. U can be muslim as long as u believe he brought the true message of God.

you should love MOHAMED more than you love yourself ... : MOHAMED says this

and you can be muslim as long as you believe that LA ILAHA ILA ALLAH MOHAMED RASSOLO ALLAH

you have to go ask if you dont believe me AMAL?

i cant believe why people say they are muslim and they give something bad about ISLAM im trying to help them and they think i am not...!!!

ok, i do believe that. and where, in that statement, does it say that i have to love Prophet Mohammed? Having said that, I do appreciate what he did and respect him very much. But the word "love" is not required. I don't have to defend anything coz my relationship is with God alone and it is to remain that way. Nobody is to tell me that I'm not Muslim. God knows my intents and I know that within myself, all of my intents are pure and with good intention so I have absolutely no worries. Praise be to Allah and all of his messengers!!!

PLEASE AMAL YOU CAN JUST ASK IMAM OR 3ALIM AND I AM SURE YOU WILL GET A GOOD ANSWER..

YOU SHOULD LOVE GOD AND MOHAMED TOGETHER BECAUSE IN CHAHADA YOU SAY : la ilaha ila allah mohamed rassolo allah.

if you dont believe me then ask!!! and to love mohamed that means you should do what he wants you to do and respect him and talk sweet about him and dont lie about him and always ask for peace and sallat for him from GOD

You should never compare God to muhammad!! And you should never love anyone more or even equally as god

Edited April 21, 2008 by nana_356

[Mr. Klocek 0]

I lived in the Middle East for 2 1/2 years and met my fiancee there. Personally, I don't care who marrys whom PERIOD - FULL STOP! I am tired of religions trying to make people's lives more difficult. It has been my experience that Islam does that by trying to regulate who can be married to whom. I simply don't care: Jew, Christian, Hindu, Atheist, Buddhist, Satanist. If two people love each other, and are committed to each other, that is good enough for me. Case, and assorted "holy" books, CLOSED.

[peezey 0]

whaoh there... outta line for me... im not muslim and I dont love mohamed. and every believer knows to love GOD... and sorry I dont agree with you on the other part. God is Everything... and He set the standard for what is sin... Sin is set in stone whether you are man or woman... there is no favorites in His book... if its ok for a muslim man to marry non muslim woman, then the same for Muslim woman to marry Christian man...

Um, no it's not. Just because you think something should be, doesn't mean it is.

[abdo 0]

i cant believe why people say they are muslim and they give something bad about ISLAM im trying to help them and they think i am not...!!![/b]

What is particularly helpful about telling Muslim women they are not Muslim?

Nothing is helpful...I don't know about you guys, but anything I want to know about Islam I will ask my husband about it.

I am NOT Muslim and know about as much about it as he does. I am just wondering if he does everything exactly as his religion states?? Like how many muslim men smoke cigarettes and you are not suppose to....how many watch porn or look at naked women....

I sure don't need anyone telling me who I am allowed to love and who is allowed to marry....this is now where I will agree with the other girls and say..."who cares"??? Why do you care? Go pray for us or something if you want to help...i dunno

I wonder if Abdo is smoking as he is wailing away on the computer at us? Does that make him less Muslim?

i am not smoking and not drinking HAMDO ALLAH and my fiancee is from AMERICA she was here last month.

she became a mulslim women last month ,she loves GOD and mohamed

[jade2004 0]

i cant believe why people say they are muslim and they give something bad about ISLAM im trying to help them and they think i am not...!!![/b]

What is particularly helpful about telling Muslim women they are not Muslim?

Nothing is helpful...I don't know about you guys, but anything I want to know about Islam I will ask my husband about it.

I am NOT Muslim and know about as much about it as he does. I am just wondering if he does everything exactly as his religion states?? Like how many muslim men smoke cigarettes and you are not suppose to....how many watch porn or look at naked women....

I sure don't need anyone telling me who I am allowed to love and who is allowed to marry....this is now where I will agree with the other girls and say..."who cares"??? Why do you care? Go pray for us or something if you want to help...i dunno

I wonder if Abdo is smoking as he is wailing away on the computer at us? Does that make him less Muslim?

LOL

Edited April 21, 2008 by jade2004

[nana_356 0]

i cant believe why people say they are muslim and they give something bad about ISLAM im trying to help them and they think i am not...!!![/b]

What is particularly helpful about telling Muslim women they are not Muslim?

Nothing is helpful...I don't know about you guys, but anything I want to know about Islam I will ask my husband about it.

I am NOT Muslim and know about as much about it as he does. I am just wondering if he does everything exactly as his religion states?? Like how many muslim men smoke cigarettes and you are not suppose to....how many watch porn or look at naked women....

I sure don't need anyone telling me who I am allowed to love and who is allowed to marry....this is now where I will agree with the other girls and say..."who cares"??? Why do you care? Go pray for us or something if you want to help...i dunno

I wonder if Abdo is smoking as he is wailing away on the computer at us? Does that make him less Muslim?

i am not smoking and not drinking HAMDO ALLAH and my fiancee is from AMERICA she was here last month.

she became a mulslim women last month ,she loves GOD and mohamed

Good luck to her!!

[Gaby&Talbert 1]

I believe especiall like these two that they see themselves as the big rulers, american women are basically a little more self sufficient, most have been married, divorced have had to keep the home and the kids going. Our men will come here, most will have to wait to work and basically dependent on us for awhile, i just see some coming here all gunho to do this and that and it dont work like this.

I know of a few that come here and the couples argue, the first thing out of the guys mouth is OH NO ONE EVER TALK TO ME LIKE THAT BEFORE...or IF WE WERE BACK IN MOROCCO YOU WOULD NEVER .....at their homes they are just used to being spoiled and catered to by the mothers and sisters

My husband has said that before in the heat of an argument, lol. He said most of the women don't argue back. My husband also knows that the majority of men their are spoiled by the wives, mothers, and sisters. He was one of them as well.

I guess all men can be broken like a horse and trained. Throughout history mothers have been the ones to teach faith and religion in families. If the mother isn't strong in her faith the children most likely will not be either.

We are trying to break and train our husbands...like a horse? Me thinks that your wife must stay home and do all of the house work while you sit on your A$$.

What is wrong with a man helping around the house considering that we, the woman, that should be chained to the stove, work to help with the support? This isn't something that I broke and trained in my husband, this is something that is a mutual agreement.

My wife is a stay at home mom but I help to cook and clean and take care of our baby. I take care of just as much as she does in the evenings and weekends. She always tells me it is her job to do but I still help her. She is a giver and wants to do everything to take care of us and I do the same with her. We are always doing things for each other. She doesn't want male friends to hang out with the same as I dont want women friends to hang out with. We are each others best friend and love to spend our time together. I see a lot of the women here saying what they will and wont allow there husbands to tell them what to do or not to do. It seems conditions are put in place with the hopes your husband will change once he is here. When you marry someone it should be for who they are and not who you want them to become. Yes people fall in love that shouldn't be together but they should not get married if they are expecting the other person to change.

[jade2004 0]

i cant believe why people say they are muslim and they give something bad about ISLAM im trying to help them and they think i am not...!!![/b]

What is particularly helpful about telling Muslim women they are not Muslim?

Nothing is helpful...I don't know about you guys, but anything I want to know about Islam I will ask my husband about it.

I am NOT Muslim and know about as much about it as he does. I am just wondering if he does everything exactly as his religion states?? Like how many muslim men smoke cigarettes and you are not suppose to....how many watch porn or look at naked women....

I sure don't need anyone telling me who I am allowed to love and who is allowed to marry....this is now where I will agree with the other girls and say..."who cares"??? Why do you care? Go pray for us or something if you want to help...i dunno

I wonder if Abdo is smoking as he is wailing away on the computer at us? Does that make him less Muslim?

i am not smoking and not drinking HAMDO ALLAH and my fiancee is from AMERICA she was here last month.

she became a mulslim women last month ,she loves GOD and mohamed

God Bless her....

[abdo 0]

I lived in the Middle East for 2 1/2 years and met my fiancee there. Personally, I don't care who marrys whom PERIOD - FULL STOP! I am tired of religions trying to make people's lives more difficult. It has been my experience that Islam does that by trying to regulate who can be married to whom. I simply don't care: Jew, Christian, Hindu, Atheist, Buddhist, Satanist. If two people love each other, and are committed to each other, that is good enough for me. Case, and assorted "holy" books, CLOSED.

you should respect the religion,that what ISLAM says.

muslim women cant marry a non-muslim man

muslim man can marry a non-muslim women

we are here talking about muslim people not about non-muslim people,because they believe other thing like : LOVE.RELATIONSHIP.BOYFRIEND.GIRLFRIEND.SEX.AND OTHER THINGS....

[chaishai 1]

we are here talking about muslim people not about non-muslim people,because they believe other thing like : LOVE.RELATIONSHIP.BOYFRIEND.GIRLFRIEND.SEX.AND OTHER THINGS....[/b]

Muslims dont believe in love, relationships, sex or other things? That sucks!