Muta marriage in Egypt

[sarahaziz 0]

No Mohamed didnt embarass me at all.What really bothered me was vw trying to say everything about our marraige and he did this to sleep with me.Which I know he would never do that so this is it about us. I have had enough and so has he.

Yes but at the end of the day this is ONLINE. I don't see anyone who could take anything here personally unless you know Virtual Wife in person. Why did you and your husband feel the need to convince her further? (You don't have to answer that it's for personal thought) You guys know what's between yall. You know in the real world when somebody see's an American wearing a hijab married to an Arab man you know what they'd think? Exactly. Even I'am the same way. It's human nature and way of life that causes people to start thinking in a certain way about things. You and Mohammad seem very much in love and I don't think you should have to prove your marriage online to some people you don't know. I really don't care if I post personal information on here it's really nothing, most of the people here who are rude are the unhappy insecure ones (I'm not indicating anybody in general) People will make rude comments but you just have to deal with it you know? Mohammad got vicious though calling her ugly, old, marrying a young guy etc.. That's getting way too personal and giving her a way to get personal right back. She's speaking from an Islamic scholar point of view, not God's eyes. (Again i'm not trying to offend anyone)

I really wouldn't spend time proving your marriage is clean to anybody here it will go through one ear and out the other because well everyone only cares about themselves you shouldn't get yourself upset over something you don't have to prove

[SaadBell 0]

Wow, sorry about that, I was watching the hippie flying dragon up in here.

"Throughout human history, as our species has faced the frightening,

terrorizing fact that we do not know who we are, or where we are going in

this ocean of chaos, it has been the authorities, the political, the

religious, the educational authorities who attempted to comfort us by

giving us order, rules, regulations, informing, forming in our minds their

view of reality. To think for yourself you must question authority and

learn how to put yourself in a state of vulnerable, open-mindedness;

chaotic, confused, vulnerability to inform yourself.

Think for yourself.

Question authority."

-Timothy Leary

[sarahaziz 0]

VW I don't think you should waste your time explaining anything to anybody here. As long as you have that knowledge God bless you. If someone doesn't know or appreciate the "truth" that's with them and God. We can't save every lost soul in this world. And of course everyone here will be thinking they're right about their opinions or experiences b/c of love and in love one can be extremely defensive.

Mohammad , really you are calling yourself muslim so to lash out at VW it's giving my family, spouse, and rest of the muslims here a bad reputation. Islam isn't portrayed as peaceful at this time in the world. If someone was interested in islam today and read the words you've put here they'd be turned off and say it's the same as any religion. I also feel you are embarassing your wife with the name calling of another woman. You are a man and you should keep that respect. You should keep patience and tolerance - If you are right and did right in your heart nobody can judge you only God.

I cant believe u told him this yes he is a wonderful muslim he stands up for what he believes in.Especially his marraige. Are u muslim I dont think so!

I hope you haven't resorted to your husbands level of maturity. My roots are related to Islam , I do get offended when people portray Islam incorrectly. I could've said the same to you "You converted bec of your husband" .I'm not trying to judge but you're husband probably had alot of people on here fearing for you the way he lashed out at another woman. Would mohammad still feel you are in the right if you married another egyptian man in the same manner? (you don't have to answer) His characteristics portrayed on this board were extremely offensive. As a wife you should teach him respect to women and elder women no matter how angry he gets. Calling someone ugly and old is resorting to 5th grade and shows no tolerance. Comming to USA he should learn how to speak with Respect no matter what.

Edited April 20, 2008 by sarahaziz

[Hanna&Mohamed 0]

VW I don't think you should waste your time explaining anything to anybody here. As long as you have that knowledge God bless you. If someone doesn't know or appreciate the "truth" that's with them and God. We can't save every lost soul in this world. And of course everyone here will be thinking they're right about their opinions or experiences b/c of love and in love one can be extremely defensive.

Mohammad , really you are calling yourself muslim so to lash out at VW it's giving my family, spouse, and rest of the muslims here a bad reputation. Islam isn't portrayed as peaceful at this time in the world. If someone was interested in islam today and read the words you've put here they'd be turned off and say it's the same as any religion. I also feel you are embarassing your wife with the name calling of another woman. You are a man and you should keep that respect. You should keep patience and tolerance - If you are right and did right in your heart nobody can judge you only God.

I cant believe u told him this yes he is a wonderful muslim he stands up for what he believes in.Especially his marraige. Are u muslim I dont think so!

I hope you haven't resorted to your husbands level of maturity. My roots are related to Islam , I do get offended when people portray Islam incorrectly. I could've said the same to you "You converted bec of your husband" .I'm not trying to judge but you're husband probably had alot of people on here fearing for you the way he lashed out at another woman. Would mohammad still feel you are in the right if you married another egyptian man in the same manner? (you don't have to answer) His characteristics portrayed on this board were extremely offensive. As a wife you should teach him respect to women and elder women no matter how angry he gets. Calling someone ugly and old is resorting to 5th grade and shows no tolerance. Comming to USA he should learn how to speak with Respect no matter what.

My husbands maturity is fine. He respected her alot .Then when someone says he married for a f---- paper what do u expect. Mohamed has dealt with alot of people on this site giving problems. No I didnt convert for mohammed I converted for myself and Allah. There was alot of people on here offensive. Also my husband is wonderful he never gives me problems. Thank you any way but I know how to be a wife to Mohamed and he knows how to respect women.He always speaks with respect .This time virtual wife said to much and she thinks she knows everything. Maybe u didnt pay attention to every thing she wrote .One about Wahranias' new baby . We are done with visa journey !!!! I cant believe how this site is now. I belong to another one and the people are never like this. I have met some really good friends here. I have had enough this time!!! I know my marraige is considered islamically thats all i need. He will do just fine here with respect. We need to also tell alot of Americans that to respect people.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

I can see the one person Islamic judge and jury is back again.

I truly believe, especially when it comes to matters of faith, you need to be more concerned about what it is that YOU are doing. To callout another member of your faith in a PUBLIC forum, and not in a more private method, seems contrary to what ANY faith asks.

I know the response will come that people were merely defending their faith. I do understand this. HOWEVER, there are amazing ways to use tact to point out issues.

You are a teacher by profession, no ? It seems you are well trained and experienced in the most effective ways to educate others.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

How can we miss you if you won't go away?

Let's see if Mohamed lets his own daughter have a paper marriage so she can go home a file a K1 while carrying her "spiritual" husband's child. I bet against it. But, hey, it was good enuf for you.

My husbands maturity is fine. He respected her alot .Then when someone says he married for a f---- paper what do u expect. Mohamed has dealt with alot of people on this site giving problems. No I didnt convert for mohammed I converted for myself and Allah. There was alot of people on here offensive. Also my husband is wonderful he never gives me problems. Thank you any way but I know how to be a wife to Mohamed and he knows how to respect women.He always speaks with respect .This time virtual wife said to much and she thinks she knows everything. Maybe u didnt pay attention to every thing she wrote .One about Wahranias' new baby . We are done with visa journey !!!! I cant believe how this site is now. I belong to another one and the people are never like this. I have met some really good friends here. I have had enough this time!!! I know my marraige is considered islamically thats all i need. He will do just fine here with respect. We need to also tell alot of Americans that to respect people.

BTW, I'm on that other site too.

Edited April 20, 2008 by Virtual wife

[~Jackie~ 30]

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Hey, melinda. You think your husband has so much respect for women? Let's look at how this got started, and it wasn't I who took the first shot accross the bow to get personal about someone's marriage.

Mohamed's first reference to me where he refers to me as a converted Muslim woman who thinks she knows all about Islam spreading the wrong information". For some reason, there were people who thought this insult came from me. He also pronounced takfir on other Muslims who don't think as he does:

it is good topics to discuss

first of all MUSLIM WOMAN CANT MARRY NON MUSLIM MAN and there is no islamic law say that . some converted muslim women think they know all about islam while they dont and THEY SPREAD WRONG INFORMATION ABOUT ISLAM

second when muslim man marry non muslim woman thats allowed in islam but kids must be muslim and the man who accept that his kids to become non-muslim dont desereve to called MUSLIM

Mohamed's second reference to me where he calls my 30 year marriage to a Christian man haraaaaam in emphatic terms, and tells me to ask for forgiveness:

now virtual wife

DO YOU NEED ANY MORE EVIDENCE FROM QURAN AND SUNNAH TO KNOW THAT MUSLIM WOMEN CANT MARRY MUSLIM MEN IT IS HARAAAAAAAM

it doesnot mean that you were married to non muslim man that it is halal and allowed to marry non muslim men

you should ask for forgivness sister

and please dont spread those wrong information about islam again

Allah guide us all to his striaght path Ameen

Yea, it got personal after that. I had the ammunition to take him on, and I did. When he pointed 1 finger at someone else, he had four other fingers pointing back at at him, and they weren't clean. Don't announce your sins on a public board, and they will not be known to anyone but you and Allah.

Edited April 20, 2008 by Virtual wife

[Hanna&Mohamed 0]

I wouldnt go that would just make ur night.Yes i know u are on the other site!!! They dont allow this at all!

[Sofiyya 1,687]

I wouldnt go that would just make ur night.Yes i know u are on the other site!!! They dont allow this at all!

So, when you threaten to leave, you're just teasing us? It won't bother me if you stay; you just keep saying you won't.

[sara535 15]

ok, I just now saw this and it completely made me LOOOOOOOL

....we were talking about bong hits i think

jJ

[Sofiyya 1,687]

I can see the one person Islamic judge and jury is back again.

Mohamed may be hurt that you didn't include him, too.

I truly believe, especially when it comes to matters of faith, you need to be more concerned about what it is that YOU are doing. To callout another member of your faith in a PUBLIC forum, and not in a more private method, seems contrary to what ANY faith asks.

If i have done it in private, it would be PRIVATE, which means you wouldn't know about it, so don't ASSume that didn't happen.

I know the response will come that people were merely defending their faith. I do understand this. HOWEVER, there are amazing ways to use tact to point out issues.

Don't state, demonstrate.

[mohamed N melinda 0]

ok every body one last post here to put end of that

wv accused my marriage isnot Halal and not legal islamically even in Allah eyes

and some here believed her

well if she could post only single ayah from quran or hadith say that marriage provided in it 2 wittiness and dowery and gold as gifts and flat and know for all familly and friends is Haram or not legal islamically so i will agree with her on it

but if she couldnot she dont have to post anything here again or talk about islam

deal

Lots of people get it, but you pretend that I said nothing because you can't agree with me and admit you were wrong. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make 'em drink.

If your woman is happy with a fake Islamic marriage, then she's happy. You taught her well not to respect the laws of your Muslim country. That's part of a great Islamic education.

Not!

i knew u will find way to escape as awlays

now u saying fake islamic marriage without any evdence dont you think poeple that insult me without evidence dont u consider that personal attack again and again??

ok i wont be mad anymore but i asked her to show from quraan and she couldnot

whats your open in that????????????????????????

now she show her real face

it is enough for me in this thread

salam for all

[mohamed N melinda 0]

I hope you haven't resorted to your husbands level of maturity. My roots are related to Islam , I do get offended when people portray Islam incorrectly. I could've said the same to you "You converted bec of your husband" .I'm not trying to judge but you're husband probably had alot of people on here fearing for you the way he lashed out at another woman. Would mohammad still feel you are in the right if you married another egyptian man in the same manner? (you don't have to answer) His characteristics portrayed on this board were extremely offensive. As a wife you should teach him respect to women and elder women no matter how angry he gets. Calling someone ugly and old is resorting to 5th grade and shows no tolerance. Comming to USA he should learn how to speak with Respect no matter what.

i know how to speak with respect but when u talk with woman dont know how to respect herself forst and her religion how you ask me to talk with respect with her

and come on sarra if i said wife come first before familly as you wish me to say in topic from few weeks then i would be talk with respect . u want me to agree with you to raise your kids from muslim man as chirstains so i will be in your opinion talk with respect . you want me to agree with you on name muslim man kids jewish names so i would be speak with respects

thats your own busniess and your hubby and i am not into it but islamically it isnot right at all

if i would agree with you in all that so i would be talk with respect

for virtual wife i asked you certain questions about evidence from quran and you failed as always to post it as educated muslim women as you pretend and try to get me to talk in another thing to escap from answering it. when i talked about shirk of woman who marry non muslim man it wasnot my personal opinion it is all ummah ulema and fiqih ulemma too so it wasnot mine

vw again if you have respect for your self and for poeple here and for your religion dont post anything else here or anywhere in this site before you provide the evidence of the our marriage is haram from quran and sunnah . if u didnot so you are just lier

[Ihavequestions 419]

So, mohamed N melinda (both): Who is in possession of your "marriage papers"? Do you each have a copy?