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Filed: Country: Canada
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hi everyone,

I had an issue afew weeks ago about my visits to the u.s. while I was waiting for my k-3 visa interview. At my interview the officer didn't mention the number of visits I had to the u.s. while waiting for my visa nor did he mention the length of time I stayed per visit. I never stayed past the 6 months per visit rule so I have to assume that the law is 6 months per visit and not 6 months per year. I hope this will help others who are in Canada and want to spend time with their spouses. Good luck to you all.

I-130

06-16-07 - I-130 sent

06-26-07 - I-130 NOA1 rec'd

12-03-07 - I-130 approved

I-824

12-17-07 - sent I-824 to california

12-28-07 - NOA for I-824

04-09-08 - NOA - file transfering to NVC

04-22-09 - called NVC-"haven't rec'd file as of yet". I was told to wait till I get the next action and then write a letter to them stating "will be persueing AOS"

I-129F

07-13-07 - I-129 sent

07-19-07 - I-129 NOA1 rec'd

12-03-07 - I-129 approved

01-02-08 - rec'd letter from NVC "will be sending i-129f to Montreal"

01-17-08 - rec'd Package 3

mailed Police Search Request to Hamilton Police Dept. with $40- money order

01-22-08 - mailed Package 3 to Montreal (checklist, ds-230 with attachments,

ds-156 filled out application ONCE but sent 2 copies)

03-29-08 - picked up police search results (came up negative....which is good)

02-04-08 - got medical done Dr Seiden Toronto Ontario

04-04-08 - picked up medial results from doctor's office - xrays of my chest and sealed envelope

13-04-08 - going to Montreal by car with my girlfriend-staying at hotel across from embassy, staying for 2 nights

04-14-08 - INTERVIEW DATE - Approved

04-16-08 - Rec'd passport back from embassy

04-21-08 - Port of Entry - Sarnia Ontario

EAD

05-02-08 - Sent I-765 to California

05-06-08 - NOA - California rec'd I-765 (work auth)

08-21-08 - Biometerics appt - took 5 minutes once we got there NOT ENOUGH SPACE TO FINISH MY JOURNEY............

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Filed: Other Country: Canada
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hi everyone,

I had an issue afew weeks ago about my visits to the u.s. while I was waiting for my k-3 visa interview. At my interview the officer didn't mention the number of visits I had to the u.s. while waiting for my visa nor did he mention the length of time I stayed per visit. I never stayed past the 6 months per visit rule so I have to assume that the law is 6 months per visit and not 6 months per year. I hope this will help others who are in Canada and want to spend time with their spouses. Good luck to you all.

That's true but if you keep going to the US they will get suspicious and start hassling you.

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2007-07-27 – Case complete at NVC waiting on the world or at least MTL.

2007-12-19 - INTERVIEW AT MTL, SPLIT DECISION.

2007-12-24-Mom's I-551 arrives, Pop's still in purgatory (AP)

2008-03-11-AP all done, Pop is approved!!!!

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You could, in theory then, go from Canada to the U.S., stay 6 months, drive to the border and go to Canada, have lunch, turn around and go back to the U.S. and start another 6 month stay. This just doesn't sound right to me....

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09/19/2007: Withdrew CIC application (they still hadn't processed anything)

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IR-1 application through Montreal Consulate

10/26/2007: I-130 mailed to CA Service Center

10/29/2007: USPS confirmation of receipt of I-130

02/13/2008: NOA-1 received (107 days)

07/02/2008: I-130 approved

07/22/2008: AOS filed including EAD and AP

07/25/2008: NOA-1s for all 3 received

08/20/2008: Biometrics appointment

08/22/2008: Received RFE for Affadivit of Support and Medical

10/21/2008: Submitted I-865W in lieu of co-sponsor and medical info to NSC

11/14/2008: online case status not updated since filing of AOS in July 2008

01/20/2009: Received another RFE for Affadavit of Support Info

02/02/2009: Responded to RFE with brand new AOS based on 2008 tax return (if that doesn't shut them up, dunno what will)

02/19/2009: EAD card received in mail (no updates on Online Case Status ever made)

02/23/2009: AP received (again, no online updates)

02/26/2009: Received interview appointment letter for 4/6/09

04/06/2009: AOS approved for unconditional GC

04/21/2009: GC received

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Canada
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I thought it was 6 months per year (and not necessarily calendar). Where is zyggy and neiks when you need them??? :)

too many visits/too much time per visit always raises suspicions.

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Filed: Country: Canada
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Ya, you guys are probably right about that. I'm glad I made it through. I hope you all you there who is doing alot of back and forth to the u.s. has the luck. I know some people who go to Vegas and play poker for 6 months and then come back for a very short time and then go back to play poker for another 6 months. I know it doesn't sound right. I'm sure it will caught up to them one day.

I-130

06-16-07 - I-130 sent

06-26-07 - I-130 NOA1 rec'd

12-03-07 - I-130 approved

I-824

12-17-07 - sent I-824 to california

12-28-07 - NOA for I-824

04-09-08 - NOA - file transfering to NVC

04-22-09 - called NVC-"haven't rec'd file as of yet". I was told to wait till I get the next action and then write a letter to them stating "will be persueing AOS"

I-129F

07-13-07 - I-129 sent

07-19-07 - I-129 NOA1 rec'd

12-03-07 - I-129 approved

01-02-08 - rec'd letter from NVC "will be sending i-129f to Montreal"

01-17-08 - rec'd Package 3

mailed Police Search Request to Hamilton Police Dept. with $40- money order

01-22-08 - mailed Package 3 to Montreal (checklist, ds-230 with attachments,

ds-156 filled out application ONCE but sent 2 copies)

03-29-08 - picked up police search results (came up negative....which is good)

02-04-08 - got medical done Dr Seiden Toronto Ontario

04-04-08 - picked up medial results from doctor's office - xrays of my chest and sealed envelope

13-04-08 - going to Montreal by car with my girlfriend-staying at hotel across from embassy, staying for 2 nights

04-14-08 - INTERVIEW DATE - Approved

04-16-08 - Rec'd passport back from embassy

04-21-08 - Port of Entry - Sarnia Ontario

EAD

05-02-08 - Sent I-765 to California

05-06-08 - NOA - California rec'd I-765 (work auth)

08-21-08 - Biometerics appt - took 5 minutes once we got there NOT ENOUGH SPACE TO FINISH MY JOURNEY............

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Another problem one could possibly face spending to much time out of Canada is ur Cdn medical coverage!

Canadians Visiting the USA while undergoing the visa process, my free advice:

1) Always tell the TRUTH. never lie to the POE officer

2) Be confident in ur replies

3) keep ur response short and to the point, don't tell ur life story!!

4) look the POE officer in the eye when speaking to them. They are looking for people lieing and have been trained to find them!

5) Pack light! No job resumes with you

6) Bring ties to Canada (letter from employer when ur expected back at work, lease, etc etc)

7) Always be polite, being rude isn't going to get ya anywhere, and could make things worse!!

8) Have a plan in case u do get denied (be polite) It wont harm ur visa application if ur denied,that is if ur polite and didn't lie! Refer to #1

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Filed: Country: Canada
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Apparently you can stay out of canada for 212 days .... then you have to come back and stay in canada for minimum 6 months in order for your health care coverage to be valid.

I-130

06-16-07 - I-130 sent

06-26-07 - I-130 NOA1 rec'd

12-03-07 - I-130 approved

I-824

12-17-07 - sent I-824 to california

12-28-07 - NOA for I-824

04-09-08 - NOA - file transfering to NVC

04-22-09 - called NVC-"haven't rec'd file as of yet". I was told to wait till I get the next action and then write a letter to them stating "will be persueing AOS"

I-129F

07-13-07 - I-129 sent

07-19-07 - I-129 NOA1 rec'd

12-03-07 - I-129 approved

01-02-08 - rec'd letter from NVC "will be sending i-129f to Montreal"

01-17-08 - rec'd Package 3

mailed Police Search Request to Hamilton Police Dept. with $40- money order

01-22-08 - mailed Package 3 to Montreal (checklist, ds-230 with attachments,

ds-156 filled out application ONCE but sent 2 copies)

03-29-08 - picked up police search results (came up negative....which is good)

02-04-08 - got medical done Dr Seiden Toronto Ontario

04-04-08 - picked up medial results from doctor's office - xrays of my chest and sealed envelope

13-04-08 - going to Montreal by car with my girlfriend-staying at hotel across from embassy, staying for 2 nights

04-14-08 - INTERVIEW DATE - Approved

04-16-08 - Rec'd passport back from embassy

04-21-08 - Port of Entry - Sarnia Ontario

EAD

05-02-08 - Sent I-765 to California

05-06-08 - NOA - California rec'd I-765 (work auth)

08-21-08 - Biometerics appt - took 5 minutes once we got there NOT ENOUGH SPACE TO FINISH MY JOURNEY............

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212 days is approximately 7 months - I understood the maximum length of time without any special visas etc was 6 months minus a day or approximatley 179 days. Does anyone else know about the 212 days?

Thanks,

Carslo

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Met online playing pinochle in late Feb or March 2001

Married in San Luis Obispo - July 18, 2008

Sent application CR-1/IR-1 on August 26, 2008 to Chicago lock box

September 4, 2008 - Touch #1

Approval email sent January 5, 2009 after 4 months and 2 days

NVC Journey Begins....

NVC Case officially in AVR - January 13, 2009

DS-3032 / AOS Bill Generated - January 16, 2009

AOS Bill snail mailed - January 24, 2009

Emailed DS-3032 - January 26, 2009

DS-3032 emailed read in NH January 30, 2009

DS-3032 accepted at NVC 0n February 2, 2009 via email

AOS Bill Shows as PAID - February 3, 2009

I-864 Package Generated - March 21, 2009

Mailed I-864 Package - March21, 2009

IV Bill Generated - February 3, 2009

Paid IV Bill - March 6, 2009 - snail mail

IV Bill Show as PAID - March 21, 2009

Mailed IV Package - March 21, 2009

REF - April 1, 2009 - Transfered to a supervisor

Case Completed at NVC - April 7, 2009

Medical completed May 27/09 in Vancouver

Interview Date - June 22 - SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED

POE -Vancouver @ YVR- June 28

Permanent resident card received July 20,2009

Social Security Card arrived August 2, 2009

April 2011 started ROC - May 27 biometrics - July 30 received 10 year green card!

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The rules for staying in the US are different than those for staying out of Canada as they are 2 different countries with 2 different purposes for the rules.

Canadian visitors to the US can stay for 6 months. Whether that is 6 months per year, or 6 months per visit is up to the discretion of the CBP officer when you are trying to enter the US. If you go to the US for a 6 month visit, then go back to Canada for a week, and then return to the US for another 6 month visit, the border has the right to deny your entry based on the suposition that you are a "defacto resident" of the US without benefit of proper visa. ie: illegal.

If you stay out of Canada for more than 6 months (I believe it is actually 183 days, depending on the province) you may well lose your provincial health benefits, because the province can determine that you are no longer a Canadian resident, and therefore no longer eligible for Canadian benefits. You can however apply for an extension of benefits, if they determine you have a darn good reason for being outside the country for extended periods of time. Usually for religious missionaries and foreign aid workers who intend to return to Canada, not those who are waiting on immigration proceedings to other countries.

Edited by Reba

divorced - April 2010 moved back to Ontario May 2010 and surrendered green card

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That was my understanding also.

Thanks,

Carslo

Met online playing pinochle in late Feb or March 2001

Married in San Luis Obispo - July 18, 2008

Sent application CR-1/IR-1 on August 26, 2008 to Chicago lock box

September 4, 2008 - Touch #1

Approval email sent January 5, 2009 after 4 months and 2 days

NVC Journey Begins....

NVC Case officially in AVR - January 13, 2009

DS-3032 / AOS Bill Generated - January 16, 2009

AOS Bill snail mailed - January 24, 2009

Emailed DS-3032 - January 26, 2009

DS-3032 emailed read in NH January 30, 2009

DS-3032 accepted at NVC 0n February 2, 2009 via email

AOS Bill Shows as PAID - February 3, 2009

I-864 Package Generated - March 21, 2009

Mailed I-864 Package - March21, 2009

IV Bill Generated - February 3, 2009

Paid IV Bill - March 6, 2009 - snail mail

IV Bill Show as PAID - March 21, 2009

Mailed IV Package - March 21, 2009

REF - April 1, 2009 - Transfered to a supervisor

Case Completed at NVC - April 7, 2009

Medical completed May 27/09 in Vancouver

Interview Date - June 22 - SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED

POE -Vancouver @ YVR- June 28

Permanent resident card received July 20,2009

Social Security Card arrived August 2, 2009

April 2011 started ROC - May 27 biometrics - July 30 received 10 year green card!

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Excellent post, Reba.

Here's the official word regarding Canadians visiting the US, ItsAllGreekToMe. If you scroll down to the end of the page you will see:

"The burden of proof is always on the applicant. There is no set period of time Canadians must wait to re-enter the U.S. after the end of their stay, but if it appears to the CBP officer that the person applying for entry is spending more time over-all in the U.S. than in Canada, it will be up to the traveler to prove to the officer that they are not de-facto U.S. residents."

CBP Link - Canadians Visiting the US

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Don't get hung up on the 6months. Think of it this way. Where are you spending the majority of your time? If in a year period you are in the US for a continuous 6 months return to Canada for a day, a week, a month, etc and then return to the US for another continuous 6 months - chances are an US CBP officer is going to determine that you are "living' in the US more than "living" in Canada.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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Don't get hung up on the 6months. Think of it this way. Where are you spending the majority of your time? If in a year period you are in the US for a continuous 6 months return to Canada for a day, a week, a month, etc and then return to the US for another continuous 6 months - chances are an US CBP officer is going to determine that you are "living' in the US more than "living" in Canada.

lol this thread is from 2008 and was only resurrected because someone cant use VJ posting apparently.

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