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I guess some of us care also because it's our tax dollars paying for him to live and eat in the prison. We should care what the sentences are after a conviction of any crime, after all sentences do set precedents and always lead to a "is it fair" type of discussion.

I think in this case, life was the appropriate sentence. He would have been made a martyr... plus they did say that the level of involvement was not enough to warrant a death sentence. He'll be sentenced to a maximum security prison, most likely a supermax and won't have a lot of contact with other prisoners.

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As for human rights legislation, I don't see how this case has anything to do with that at all (or quite possibly I'm missing your point - no caffeine today, LOL). Moussaoui certainly has no regard for humanity, and the last time I checked, life in prison did not equate human rights violations. I'm actually proud of the fact that we did not seek an eye for an eye for some lameo terrorist wanna be. I think the punishment more than fits the crime.

There was a debate yesterday about the morality and legality of torture. Some folks don't seem to see anything wrong with compromising their morality by condoning it - despite the fact that it is actually legislatively illegal in most countries.

He'll get his three squares a day, and air to breathe. Even visits from his family. That's more than the 9/11 victims and their families get.

Sure. No disagreement there.

I guess some of us care also because it's our tax dollars paying for him to live and eat in the prison. We should care what the sentences are after a conviction of any crime, after all sentences do set precedents and always lead to a "is it fair" type of discussion.

I think in this case, life was the appropriate sentence. He would have been made a martyr... plus they did say that the level of involvement was not enough to warrant a death sentence. He'll be sentenced to a maximum security prison, most likely a supermax and won't have a lot of contact with other prisoners.

Death costs more in any case, does it not?

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As for human rights legislation, I don't see how this case has anything to do with that at all (or quite possibly I'm missing your point - no caffeine today, LOL). Moussaoui certainly has no regard for humanity, and the last time I checked, life in prison did not equate human rights violations. I'm actually proud of the fact that we did not seek an eye for an eye for some lameo terrorist wanna be. I think the punishment more than fits the crime.

There was a debate yesterday about the morality and legality of torture. Some folks don't seem to see anything wrong with compromising their morality by condoning it - despite the fact that it is actually legislatively illegal in most countries.

He'll get his three squares a day, and air to breathe. Even visits from his family. That's more than the 9/11 victims and their families get.

Sure. No disagreement there.

I guess some of us care also because it's our tax dollars paying for him to live and eat in the prison. We should care what the sentences are after a conviction of any crime, after all sentences do set precedents and always lead to a "is it fair" type of discussion.

I think in this case, life was the appropriate sentence. He would have been made a martyr... plus they did say that the level of involvement was not enough to warrant a death sentence. He'll be sentenced to a maximum security prison, most likely a supermax and won't have a lot of contact with other prisoners.

Death costs more in any case, does it not?

It depends on what aspect you are looking at..... the cost of the court case or the cost of the actual prison time vs. death sentence being carried out. Most of the cost of the death is the court expenses (i.e. automatic appeals, hiring experts, etc) which brings it up higher than the cost of keeping a prisoner in jail for life. Either way, death or life, you should care is it's your money paying for either sentence (kinda what my point was but forgot to add in the death thing to my first sentence)

I can't say that I'm for the death penalty in every single case. Because I'm not. But I am for it in certain cases. This was not one of them.

March 4, 2004 NOA 1

June 29, 2004 NOA 2

August 26th -- interview date - we need to complete a I-601 waiver so it's back to waiting again

January 6, 2005 i-601 waiver approved!!!!

January 21, 2005 VISA IN HAND

February 12, 2005 WEDDING!!!!!

March 10, 2005 mailed AOS and EAD applications to Chicago

April 18, 2005 EAD and AOS receipt dates for NOA

June 30, 2005 AOS RFE evidence submitted (translated birth certificate)

August 10, 2005 ---EAD approved via infopass appointment

October 18, 2005 - AOS interview in St. Louis - received an RFE for vaccination supplement

February 9, 2006 - denial for AOS letter due to the wrong form being submitted from the doctor. PLEASE MAKE SURE THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN TO YOU!!

February 16, 2006 - USCIS accepts the motion to reopen without an additional fee - finally something goes right! We should hear from USCIS St. Louis office within 2 weeks.

April 3, 2006 - Received welcome to America letter in the mail!

April 8, 2006 - Received GC in the mail - done for 2 years!!!!

March 1, 2008 - mailed off I-751

March 3, 2008 NSC delivery confirmation

March 10, 2008 NOA 1

March 28, 2008 Biometrics appointment

Legal Permanent Resident - just waiting for time to pass for him to have eligibility for citizenship.

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There was a debate yesterday about the morality and legality of torture. Some folks don't seem to see anything wrong with compromising their morality by condoning it - despite the fact that it is actually legislatively illegal in most countries.

I gotcha. I don't think torture is appropriate in any circumstance, even for a coward wannabe like Moussaoui (or even if we caught Bin Laden).

Allowing yourself to become what they are (morally bankrupt idiots with no regard for human life) would be the worst thing I can imagine, and ultimately means they win. No thanks. :)

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