Obama calls for talks with Iran over Iraq

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

With Republicans in power, you bet he can.

Democrats have controlled the congress since 2006. And they have achieved what again????

The Republicans pretty much controlled both parties from 1994 to 2006.

9/11 was in 2001.

Iraq War 2 was in 2003.

Come on man. So many dems talk a big game but simply do not deliver. I want to see progress and not excuses.

Your point appeared to be that if it weren't for "liberals" than we wouldn't have been attacked. I think that's specious at best - considering at the very least that so called "Liberal politicians" didn't have control of Congress or the Senate during a significant period of time from the mid 1990's.

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They dont have enough of a majority to override any of bush's veto's. So in essence they are only sort of in power. But just enough power to stop bush and the former Repbulican majority from being reckless.

Override what amnesty for illegal immigrants or was it free college for illegal immigrants. There are so many bills proposed, by them, to help illegal immigrants I have lost count.

Oh God... WildTangent is back.

[Heracles 417]

Funny... demographically hippies gave rise to the 80's generation. Reaganomics. Republican me-me'ers.

Please... Please... Please... open up a few more history books before stuffing yourself... again.

Not all kids of that generation where hippies. Also Ronald Regan was born in 1911. An era when dems actually supported America..

They dont have enough of a majority to override any of bush's veto's. So in essence they are only sort of in power. But just enough power to stop bush and the former Repbulican majority from being reckless.

Override what amnesty for illegal immigrants or was it free college for illegal immigrants. There are so many bills proposed, by them, to help illegal immigrants I have lost count.

Oh God... WildTangent is back.

It is called sub-points to back a statement.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Funny... demographically hippies gave rise to the 80's generation. Reaganomics. Republican me-me'ers.

Please... Please... Please... open up a few more history books before stuffing yourself... again.

Not all kids of that generation where hippies. Also Ronald Regan was born in 1911. An era when dems actually supported America..

They dont have enough of a majority to override any of bush's veto's. So in essence they are only sort of in power. But just enough power to stop bush and the former Repbulican majority from being reckless.

Override what amnesty for illegal immigrants or was it free college for illegal immigrants. There are so many bills proposed, by them, to help illegal immigrants I have lost count.

Oh God... WildTangent is back.

It is called sub-points to back a statement.

He has a point - that thing about illegal immigrants has nothing even remotely do with your previous argument.

[Heracles 417]

Your point appeared to be that if it weren't for "liberals" than we wouldn't have been attacked. I think that's specious at best - considering at the very least that so called "Liberal politicians" didn't have control of Congress or the Senate during a significant period of time from the mid 1990's.

It is no a matter of politicians alone. Look at the ####### Hollywood is exporting to the world.

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Exactly. Political attrition.

I cannot wait to hear what excuse you will be using once the democrats take over the whitehouse. Let me look into the crystal ball and think like a dem. Got it. They will be repairing the damage GWB did..

Maybe you'd like a shot at it? I mean, what timeline are you living in?

[Heracles 417]

He has a point - that thing about illegal immigrants has nothing even remotely do with your previous argument.

Which argument? That dems pass bills supporting free college for illegal immigrants. Is that what some here call progress by Dems being blocked by republicans.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Your point appeared to be that if it weren't for "liberals" than we wouldn't have been attacked. I think that's specious at best - considering at the very least that so called "Liberal politicians" didn't have control of Congress or the Senate during a significant period of time from the mid 1990's.

It is no a matter of politicians alone. Look at the ####### Hollywood is exporting to the world.

I rather doubt Bin Laden's beef with the US has much to do with Hollywood movies.

[Heracles 417]

Exactly. Political attrition.

I cannot wait to hear what excuse you will be using once the democrats take over the whitehouse. Let me look into the crystal ball and think like a dem. Got it. They will be repairing the damage GWB did..

Maybe you'd like a shot at it? I mean, what timeline are you living in?

Well I already had the answer to my question. The excuse of the month will be that: They will be repairing the damage GWB did. So since they are 'busy' doing that they cannot focus on any other issue.

[HAL 9000 96]

Funny... demographically hippies gave rise to the 80's generation. Reaganomics. Republican me-me'ers.

Please... Please... Please... open up a few more history books before stuffing yourself... again.

Not all kids of that generation where hippies. Also Ronald Regan was born in 1911. An era when dems actually supported America..

They dont have enough of a majority to override any of bush's veto's. So in essence they are only sort of in power. But just enough power to stop bush and the former Repbulican majority from being reckless.

Override what amnesty for illegal immigrants or was it free college for illegal immigrants. There are so many bills proposed, by them, to help illegal immigrants I have lost count.

Oh God... WildTangent is back.

It is called sub-points to back a statement.

Southern or Northern Democrats? Big difference. More need for history lessons my friend.

As for your tangents being poignantly stale, they're yours to make as you wish.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

He has a point - that thing about illegal immigrants has nothing even remotely do with your previous argument.

Which argument? That dems pass bills supporting free college for illegal immigrants. Is that what some here call progress by Dems being blocked by republicans.

As I say your point appears to be twofold.

That Liberals are wrecking the country, and if it weren't for them Bin Laden wouldn't have a problem with us.

Second, that Bush cannot be blamed for things like the 2003 war because of the Democratic control of Congress since 2006.

[Heracles 417]

I rather doubt Bin Laden's beef with the US has much to do with Hollywood movies.

Right or wrong. Ignorant or not. Anecdotal or not. For people who have not been to America what they read in their paper, what they hear from friends and what they see in the movies is all they have got. So when they see a movie made out to be a documentary showing how bad America is they too begin to hate the country.

Southern or Northern Democrats? Big difference. More need for history lessons my friend.

As for your tangents being poignantly stale, they're yours to make as you wish.

Don't pick and choose as you read. I already stated 100 times that liberals do not represent the entire democrat party, even though they have such a large say in it..

Edited April 9, 2008 by Boo-Yah!

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I rather doubt Bin Laden's beef with the US has much to do with Hollywood movies.

Right or wrong. Ignorant or not. Anecdotal or not. For people who have not been to America what they read in their paper, what they hear from friends and what they see in the movies is all they have got. So when they see a movie made out to be a documentary showing how bad America is they too begin to hate the country.

But what does this have to do with Iran and Bin Laden?

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He has a point - that thing about illegal immigrants has nothing even remotely do with your previous argument.

Which argument? That dems pass bills supporting free college for illegal immigrants. Is that what some here call progress by Dems being blocked by republicans.

Is that all Democrats?

And, how about bills to bring the troops home from Iraq that have majority support in the population? Is that progress helped along by Bush's Vetos?

Your point appeared to be that if it weren't for "liberals" than we wouldn't have been attacked. I think that's specious at best - considering at the very least that so called "Liberal politicians" didn't have control of Congress or the Senate during a significant period of time from the mid 1990's.

It is no a matter of politicians alone. Look at the ####### Hollywood is exporting to the world.

I rather doubt Bin Laden's beef with the US has much to do with Hollywood movies.

And was that beef before or after his family money came into play? Also, was Hollywood supplying his Muhajadeen in Afghanistan in the 80s??

[Heracles 417]

He has a point - that thing about illegal immigrants has nothing even remotely do with your previous argument.

Which argument? That dems pass bills supporting free college for illegal immigrants. Is that what some here call progress by Dems being blocked by republicans.

As I say your point appears to be twofold.

That Liberals are wrecking the country, and if it weren't for them Bin Laden wouldn't have a problem with us.

Second, that Bush cannot be blamed for things like the 2003 war because of the Democratic control of Congress since 2006.

I make a statement and you pick n choose your answers. If you don't want to answer or cannot think of any excuse for the time being you look at something else. IE EG as you have just done so.

Out of curiosity since you know so much, why do you think Bin Laden and so many others like him hate America? Is it because of Iran in the 50's?