So does it really suck when they get here or what?

[Imua 0]

First let me clue you into something. Many women from other cultures do dastardly things to American Men. Take a hop skip and a stroll over to some of the other threads and you will see South American , Russian, Chinese you name it taking American men for greencard rides up and down the street. I personally have watched several south American women in the area that I live in in Florida make a laughing stock of their American husbands. Its not about culture. Its about UPBRINGING and to catagorize all American women as bad because you got taken for a ride is horrible. You are painting all women from MEXICO as saintlike and great moms and that just is not the case. You could have just as easily ended up with a former prostitute who stole all your money and waited out her AOS period and latered you.

I watch these threads started by these men that somehow think all RUSSIANS are saints. I got to the point that I just pointed out that most of the prostitutes working in UAE . Abu Dhabi and Dubai are from the FSU. The problem with prostitution of the FSU countries has become so severe that you really do not know WHAT or WHO you are marrying when you marry a woman from a foreign country. At least with an American you can run a background check. Can you do that with a foreign wife? Do you really know where she has been all the years before you knew her...The same thing stands with South America and Mexico. Do you really know the woman you marry as well as you could know an American? Just wondering.

The arrogance of some of the American men marrying foreign women astounds me. You do not have to BASH american women to point out the positives in your wife. American women also have to put up with being expected to work full time and raise kids and do everything else while alot of American men would put us out to work like farm hands and abuse the ####### out of us and then when you finally get your wife toy from overseas, you baby them. If I could sit on my ### and raise kids and not pull in a paycheck, I would be miss perfect too. The biggest problem with american women is our MEN. They want everything, give very little back, offer no romance or love story and then whine that we don't do what foreign women do. We don't get the chance to. We have to build your life on our backs,break our lives in half, raise your children for you to turn around and say we are not feminine or submissive enough. Who the hell is paying the bills while we are submissive. Not a damn person.... I do not blame you for looking overseas but most women do not start out their relationships bitter. We start out with dreams and needs.... and unlike most of my friends who just put up with the beer bellies and no personality red neck antics, we went else where too. Just like you

Sorry mena girls if my post offends anyone...

For all the difficulties that I anticipate and the cultural misunderstandings there is no way I would marry an American man. A lot of them seem to think 'oh I have a good job and a nice car so I am a god to women' - they have Everest size egos and expect a woman to be a 'trophy' to match - well I prefer my poor Nepali guy who doesn't have a car, who doesn;t have anything but who is just who he is and is not trying to prove he is a 'big shot' and is sweet to me and has good spiritual values. I have known guys (like my 2 stepfathers) who would be considered relative 'catches' by American standards but while they pride themselves on being 'mr. big macho provider' they end up really DOING NOTHING except bringing home the bacon, which I can do for myself. I would rather have a guy who is humble and true to himself and loving to me as I am.

Maybe there are sweet humble hardworking American guys who aren't trying to be something they aren't but I haven't met any.

[Jenn! 918]

Maybe there are sweet humble hardworking American guys who aren't trying to be something they aren't but I haven't met any.

Absolutely there are! I think painting all American men with one brush is just as bad as doing it with American women, no?

[ya falaha! 0]

Exactly.

Personally, I know several good American men who are good to their wives/gfs. Good fathers, good husbands, good providers, etc. One or two bad experiences doesn't mean the whole lot is bad.

Maybe there are sweet humble hardworking American guys who aren't trying to be something they aren't but I haven't met any.

Absolutely there are! I think painting all American men with one brush is just as bad as doing it with American women, no?

[Alex+R 0]

Maybe there are sweet humble hardworking American guys who aren't trying to be something they aren't but I haven't met any.

Absolutely there are! I think painting all American men with one brush is just as bad as doing it with American women, no?

Oh yeah it is. PR, I have dated men like that. Just not the right ones for me. My husband isn't particularly sweet or humble, although he is hardworking. Oops, he's foreign.

[Gaby&Talbert 1]

Maybe there are sweet humble hardworking American guys who aren't trying to be something they aren't but I haven't met any.

Absolutely there are! I think painting all American men with one brush is just as bad as doing it with American women, no?

She is being honest and that is good. American men have been told there job is to work hard and provide for their families. The better we do this the more we are told we are doing a good job.

She has stated that she only wants a man to be humble and that will love her, nothing else. Please be sure to tell your husband all of this before he can become "Americanized"

[Jenn! 918]

Maybe there are sweet humble hardworking American guys who aren't trying to be something they aren't but I haven't met any.

Absolutely there are! I think painting all American men with one brush is just as bad as doing it with American women, no?

She is being honest and that is good. American men have been told there job is to work hard and provide for their families. The better we do this the more we are told we are doing a good job.

She has stated that she only wants a man to be humble and that will love her, nothing else. Please be sure to tell your husband all of this before he can become "Americanized"

What?

[Chica Yeyé 41]

First let me clue you into something. Many women from other cultures do dastardly things to American Men. Take a hop skip and a stroll over to some of the other threads and you will see South American , Russian, Chinese you name it taking American men for greencard rides up and down the street. I personally have watched several south American women in the area that I live in in Florida make a laughing stock of their American husbands. Its not about culture. Its about UPBRINGING and to catagorize all American women as bad because you got taken for a ride is horrible. You are painting all women from MEXICO as saintlike and great moms and that just is not the case. You could have just as easily ended up with a former prostitute who stole all your money and waited out her AOS period and latered you.

But we Mexican women are saints wahrania my dear.... didn't you know that????? :devil: I like your posts sister.

Oh, wait. Hubby says "you are no Saint". Darn. And I am not a mom, either and neither do I fit the stereotype of the 'good wife' (whatever that means).

Edited April 9, 2008 by Len_and_Bren

[Gaby&Talbert 1]

First let me clue you into something. Many women from other cultures do dastardly things to American Men. Take a hop skip and a stroll over to some of the other threads and you will see South American , Russian, Chinese you name it taking American men for greencard rides up and down the street. I personally have watched several south American women in the area that I live in in Florida make a laughing stock of their American husbands. Its not about culture. Its about UPBRINGING and to catagorize all American women as bad because you got taken for a ride is horrible. You are painting all women from MEXICO as saintlike and great moms and that just is not the case. You could have just as easily ended up with a former prostitute who stole all your money and waited out her AOS period and latered you.

But we Mexican women are saints wahrania my dear.... didn't you know that????? :devil: I like your posts sister.

Oh, wait. Hubby says "you are no Saint". Darn. And I am not a mom, either and neither do I fit the stereotype of the 'good wife' (whatever that means).

In my humble opinion my Mexican wife is a Saint.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

First let me clue you into something. Many women from other cultures do dastardly things to American Men. Take a hop skip and a stroll over to some of the other threads and you will see South American , Russian, Chinese you name it taking American men for greencard rides up and down the street. I personally have watched several south American women in the area that I live in in Florida make a laughing stock of their American husbands. Its not about culture. Its about UPBRINGING and to catagorize all American women as bad because you got taken for a ride is horrible. You are painting all women from MEXICO as saintlike and great moms and that just is not the case. You could have just as easily ended up with a former prostitute who stole all your money and waited out her AOS period and latered you.

But we Mexican women are saints wahrania my dear.... didn't you know that????? :devil: I like your posts sister.

Oh, wait. Hubby says "you are no Saint". Darn. And I am not a mom, either and neither do I fit the stereotype of the 'good wife' (whatever that means).

In my humble opinion my Mexican wife is a Saint.

Good for you my man. I am not, and Bren likesssss it

[Gaby&Talbert 1]

OK I just read a thread about adjusting to America in a Turkish thread and in 5 pages there was not one comment about what makes them angry with their Turkish husbands, it was all about adjustment to the culture. Several women in the MENA thread did the same, only comment about the adjustment. Why is it that some women in this thread are complaining about their husbands but not the Turkish thread?

[sarahaziz 0]

hey everyone. i am amena man and read most stuff about this... WHY WE CHANGE WHEN WE GO USA?!

well, i havent been to usa yet... and i know many things i would face over there... money, culture , homesick and work of course...

i guess i passed homesick when i am here in jordan,, i have worked for several times away from my family.. and i miss them but not the much that i get a sickness of that or even effect my relation to my new family ( my wife and my stepson).

and my family arent expeting me making a wilth in couple months cuz money arent on streets in usa or any other place in this world... u need to work hard anywhere you are .. usa or home country...

so what else i should explain? waiting for my wife to get my lunch for me... i do mine here too... and i wash dishes too.. lol.. i dont feel that isnt a manly thing... nothing wrong of that..

friends? i dont think i am gonna have a friends of the meaning of real friends.. maybe work-mates is good to say this.. or niaghbours!! hee hee... but why i wont have friends?

well, thats up to the person.. and for me i am work-home,home-work.. man,, i rarely go out... altho i know 80% of places in jordan.. and for getting lost in the state i live in? no no.. i dont think so.. cuz i can read english and dirctions good...

so my fear is falling in troubles cuz i am so tempered.. i mean fights.. and i dont feel scared of any1... i hit any body.. and i dont care if ur 8 ft tall... lol... thats cuesed of me living in a nighbourhood of arabic gangsters and ask ur jordanian man about something called (deonegee) or D1G...and he will tell if he ever lives in irbed or zarqa... or any refugees camp in jordan.

so.. i already know i will have troubles if i keep reading all of ur writting cuz its individaul things happned with some people... and if u think ALL of mena men gonna change i am gonna be an exception... i hope so..

and something i started to hate in this website.. WHY DO YOU WRITE SOME OF YOUR THINGS ABOUT YOUR HUSBAND THAT SHOULD BE A SECERT BETWEEN A HUSBAND AND A WIFE? i mean writing ur troubles in some website !! and let starnge people read and comment it...

whatever!

yazied

you should be careful if you get into legal trouble here they can deport you for physical fighting. I'm sure they will do anything to kick an arab out of USA.

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

Gary,

Hate for an ex is love that has disappointed you. You need some counseling. I don't hate my ex, I don't love him, I have no feelings because I don't care any more. I have moved on to greener pastures.

If my husband spent this much time dwelling on his ex I would get so freaking sick of it that it would eventually lead to problems. Can't you move on????

I have moved on and I never talk about her, I only brought her up because I am curious why the difference in women from other cultures.

First let me clue you into something. Many women from other cultures do dastardly things to American Men. Take a hop skip and a stroll over to some of the other threads and you will see South American , Russian, Chinese you name it taking American men for greencard rides up and down the street. I personally have watched several south American women in the area that I live in in Florida make a laughing stock of their American husbands. Its not about culture. Its about UPBRINGING and to catagorize all American women as bad because you got taken for a ride is horrible. You are painting all women from MEXICO as saintlike and great moms and that just is not the case. You could have just as easily ended up with a former prostitute who stole all your money and waited out her AOS period and latered you.

I watch these threads started by these men that somehow think all RUSSIANS are saints. I got to the point that I just pointed out that most of the prostitutes working in UAE . Abu Dhabi and Dubai are from the FSU. The problem with prostitution of the FSU countries has become so severe that you really do not know WHAT or WHO you are marrying when you marry a woman from a foreign country. At least with an American you can run a background check. Can you do that with a foreign wife? Do you really know where she has been all the years before you knew her...The same thing stands with South America and Mexico. Do you really know the woman you marry as well as you could know an American? Just wondering.

The arrogance of some of the American men marrying foreign women astounds me. You do not have to BASH american women to point out the positives in your wife. American women also have to put up with being expected to work full time and raise kids and do everything else while alot of American men would put us out to work like farm hands and abuse the ####### out of us and then when you finally get your wife toy from overseas, you baby them. If I could sit on my ### and raise kids and not pull in a paycheck, I would be miss perfect too. The biggest problem with american women is our MEN. They want everything, give very little back, offer no romance or love story and then whine that we don't do what foreign women do. We don't get the chance to. We have to build your life on our backs,break our lives in half, raise your children for you to turn around and say we are not feminine or submissive enough. Who the hell is paying the bills while we are submissive. Not a damn person.... I do not blame you for looking overseas but most women do not start out their relationships bitter. We start out with dreams and needs.... and unlike most of my friends who just put up with the beer bellies and no personality red neck antics, we went else where too. Just like you

Sorry mena girls if my post offends anyone...

See now, you pissed of Wahrania, and she is raging preggy hormonal.

Wahrania, it is true about the Russian prostitutes in Dubai. MY SIL lived there and said they are everywhere. Imagine one of them hooking up with an American for a visa. Then we would see some hate all Russian women.

The thing I find interesting is that after looking through quite a few of the forums, I have seen many many many negative comments about American women, but this was the first one I have seen about American men. (DON'T PISS OFF THE PREGNANT WOMAN!) In all seriousness, it is tiresome to read about how 'we' are all money-grubbing gold diggers or evil or selfish, etc. I just don't know what American women they are talking about or have been associating with - no one in my family or friendship circle could remotely be characterized that way!

Thats cause most American women have the sense in their head not to make threads talking about how much American men suck. Yes , they do not ALL SUCK. But like alot of the men putting their foreign wives up on pedestals and then trashing American women, I kinda wanna stick up for American women because their posts are annoying. I was reading through some russian threads and I just didnt even bother posting anything because it served no purpose. Why bash all American men? I have ice cream flavors that I like but that doesnt mean I dont like any other flavors, I just go out of my way to grab the rocky road.

And if you really think about it , all these IMBRA waivers werent exactly invented to protect foreign men from American women. They were invented for the most part to protect women from coming over here and getting killed or beaten by men with criminal records or men who petitioned and petitioned and petitioned and sent the girls back and used the INS like a mail order bride service.

I personally like American men. If I could have found one that clicked with me and made my heart dance it would have made my life alot easier than falling in love with someone far away. I think women in general want to have the best things in life. Some of us just found it faster than others. Some of us got screwed over and then are looking for the pony under a pile of ####. Some of us just give up and eat ice cream. Some of us buy 29 cats. But for Talbert, if you think ALL AMERICAN women have had a gravy train being married to American men, you are SADLY mistaken. Being an American woman is hard as hell because along with the freedom comes a boat load of responsibility and society's attitudes with puts even more pressure on us. We have to listen to AMERICAN MEN say we are not submissive enough yet we have to work like hell in this society to put food on the table, get paid less than men,many American women have to not only juggle our lives but we have to care for elderly parents and family in a society that does not value older people. We consistantly earn less over our lifetimes then men because we are usually the primary care givers. Then I read threads from men raised by American men bashing us all over the place. The reality is that we dont get the breaks that alot of these foreign wives . We got alot of the American men when they got out of the school or army or whatever and hadnt established themselves enough to wonder if we submitted or not. We were too busy struggling along side the men, trying to build a life. Its the trophy wife syndrome. The american women are the workhorses and when hubby decides hes made it, he s all of the sudden looking at her body , who shes become and he did nothing to shelter her from aging and stress and then all of the sudden pronounces her bitter. Well if you are some woman who shouldered all the bills and were never treated well and built some guys life up and his career and stepped all over your dreams for him to get his and all of the sudden you are being compared to some girl in a 3rd world country who has very little to do other than do her hair and sit at home and doesnt live in the western dog eat dog world, it does become enraging. I understand why American women get a case of the ### with american men. If we dont work hard, we are lazy. If we work too hard we are bitchy and dont care about our men. It sure is hell sometimes to be an American woman. And I will be damned if some man who was suckled at the breast of a hard working american woman is going to bash the women that built this country that he is bringing his new wife too... I have too much respect for other women, American and other wise to allow that.

Just my two cents

Sorry I am hormonal/// if I offend anyone

[♥JP♥ 5]

OK I just read a thread about adjusting to America in a Turkish thread and in 5 pages there was not one comment about what makes them angry with their Turkish husbands, it was all about adjustment to the culture. Several women in the MENA thread did the same, only comment about the adjustment. Why is it that some women in this thread are complaining about their husbands but not the Turkish thread?

Why does it matter? If someone feels like posting something they can do whatever they please. Instead of questioning an entire forum, why don't you take your beef up with the people you have identified via PM? I really don't see the need for you to police this thread.

[sarahaziz 0]

Wow. These marriages sound 4 times harder than others. I think if I had to live by all of these tips and rules my ME/NA husband would have divorced my a$s a few days after the wedding. Or the other way around. Not sure.

Where do you guys find the patience and understanding?

Does it ever get significantly easier?

every woman on here or i would hope they investigated what kind of personality their husbands held before marrying. So there had to be some attractiveness from the personality of the man that they liked. I agree with who said it's all about compromising and to add *respect* for each other.

[Gaby&Talbert 1]

hey everyone. i am amena man and read most stuff about this... WHY WE CHANGE WHEN WE GO USA?!

well, i havent been to usa yet... and i know many things i would face over there... money, culture , homesick and work of course...

i guess i passed homesick when i am here in jordan,, i have worked for several times away from my family.. and i miss them but not the much that i get a sickness of that or even effect my relation to my new family ( my wife and my stepson).

and my family arent expeting me making a wilth in couple months cuz money arent on streets in usa or any other place in this world... u need to work hard anywhere you are .. usa or home country...

so what else i should explain? waiting for my wife to get my lunch for me... i do mine here too... and i wash dishes too.. lol.. i dont feel that isnt a manly thing... nothing wrong of that..

friends? i dont think i am gonna have a friends of the meaning of real friends.. maybe work-mates is good to say this.. or niaghbours!! hee hee... but why i wont have friends?

well, thats up to the person.. and for me i am work-home,home-work.. man,, i rarely go out... altho i know 80% of places in jordan.. and for getting lost in the state i live in? no no.. i dont think so.. cuz i can read english and dirctions good...

so my fear is falling in troubles cuz i am so tempered.. i mean fights.. and i dont feel scared of any1... i hit any body.. and i dont care if ur 8 ft tall... lol... thats cuesed of me living in a nighbourhood of arabic gangsters and ask ur jordanian man about something called (deonegee) or D1G...and he will tell if he ever lives in irbed or zarqa... or any refugees camp in jordan.

so.. i already know i will have troubles if i keep reading all of ur writting cuz its individaul things happned with some people... and if u think ALL of mena men gonna change i am gonna be an exception... i hope so..

and something i started to hate in this website.. WHY DO YOU WRITE SOME OF YOUR THINGS ABOUT YOUR HUSBAND THAT SHOULD BE A SECERT BETWEEN A HUSBAND AND A WIFE? i mean writing ur troubles in some website !! and let starnge people read and comment it...

whatever!

yazied

you should be careful if you get into legal trouble here they can deport you for physical fighting. I'm sure they will do anything to kick an arab out of USA.

Hey this guy is being honest...what would the guys think about what their wives are writting here?