What Makes Obama Run

[no name 1]

He's obviously not a dye-in-the-liberal that you might think he is. From what I gather, his life experiences as child born from a white mother and African father who abandoned his family have had a profound impact on his views. He's as much white as he is black, accept that as far as first impressions go, people throughout his life, have only seen him as black.

Interesting way you put it chief..

How would you have put it?

His website tells us:

Barack's father eventually returned to Kenya, and Barack grew up with his mother in Hawaii, and for a few years in Indonesia.

Not quite the woe is me tale you spun for us.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

He's obviously not a dye-in-the-liberal that you might think he is. From what I gather, his life experiences as child born from a white mother and African father who abandoned his family have had a profound impact on his views. He's as much white as he is black, accept that as far as first impressions go, people throughout his life, have only seen him as black.

Interesting way you put it chief..

How would you have put it?

NON answer!

Who asked the question?

Edited April 7, 2008 by Number 6

[rebeccajo 14]

He's obviously not a dye-in-the-liberal that you might think he is. From what I gather, his life experiences as child born from a white mother and African father who abandoned his family have had a profound impact on his views. He's as much white as he is black, accept that as far as first impressions go, people throughout his life, have only seen him as black.

Interesting way you put it chief..

How would you have put it?

You really don't want to hear the answer, do you Steven?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Steve he threw his mother under the bus with the "she used to say bad things about blacks" remark. I just cant get over how ppl put so much in what ppl write. Seeing what you wanna see? WOW!

Marc, how did you become an expert at seeing past what people write or say and peer into their soul?

[Heracles 417]

Pot - meet kettle. 3 new ones in 50 minutes yesterday not enough for you?

I think you need a new kettle, you keep losing it all over the place.

I decided that if you guys can post half a hundred of the thinnest, most insubstantially based articles you can find from the obscurist sources - that I might as well get in on the action.

Yet when one calls you on it, you deny?

Do you actually expect more from #6..

Nope.

He certainly lives up to his rules.

Number 6 & Co ACME school of forum posting

The rules:

1. Always ridicule and attack anyone who you disagree with. The more personal the better. Don't allow them to explain or clarify their own opinion. ###### em!! If it sounds racist then it bloody well is racist!! Drill it in!!

2. Ask them to provide proof for just about everything they post. Even if they state something as simple as what a beautiful day. Demand proof of it. Naturally when people discuss and debate things in person they always follow on with a prove it comment..

3. Then if they do provide the proof you asked for, rebut it and discredit it. Say it's off topic, or stupid or the author is an idiot.

4. If the conversation starts getting a little tricky or you have nothing else to ridicule, just start bringing up #### from the past or from other threads. Look for weaknesses in their sentence structure or punctuation errors. That'll show them!!

5. Also try to get as many of your buddies as possible to help and gang up on the person. Get everyone to ask questions at once. Then call them out for not answering them all.

6. Then basically repeat the process until the other person is tired of hearing your BS for the 500th time..

PS Never ever actually post proof of your own. And of course if you do post proof. Swear by it as if it's the law of the land.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

He's obviously not a dye-in-the-liberal that you might think he is. From what I gather, his life experiences as child born from a white mother and African father who abandoned his family have had a profound impact on his views. He's as much white as he is black, accept that as far as first impressions go, people throughout his life, have only seen him as black.

Interesting way you put it chief..

How would you have put it?

You really don't want to hear the answer, do you Steven?

Just a short sentence of how he would have put it would be nice, but I suppose that might be asking much from BY because he rarely answers questions I direct at him.

[HAL 9000 96]

He's obviously not a dye-in-the-liberal that you might think he is. From what I gather, his life experiences as child born from a white mother and African father who abandoned his family have had a profound impact on his views. He's as much white as he is black, accept that as far as first impressions go, people throughout his life, have only seen him as black.

Interesting way you put it chief..

How would you have put it?

NON answer!

Answering to you or your clone?

Plus, wasn't the comment in question about his grandmother? Mom and grandma are different folks, unless you're into some perversion of the familial type.

[Heracles 417]

Just a short sentence of how he would have put it would be nice, but I suppose that might be asking much from BY because he rarely answers questions I direct at him.

Trust me. You don't want to hear the answer.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

He's obviously not a dye-in-the-liberal that you might think he is. From what I gather, his life experiences as child born from a white mother and African father who abandoned his family have had a profound impact on his views. He's as much white as he is black, accept that as far as first impressions go, people throughout his life, have only seen him as black.

Interesting way you put it chief..

How would you have put it?

NON answer!

Who asked the question?

Steve he threw his mother under the bus with the "she used to say bad things about blacks" remark. I just cant get over how ppl put so much in what ppl write. Seeing what you wanna see? WOW!

Marc, how did you become an expert at seeing past what people write or say and peer into their soul?

Neither! Actions speak louder than words. The longer the silver tongue the more suspicious I get.Watch dont listen.

[no name 1]

Just a short sentence of how he would have put it would be nice, but I suppose that might be asking much from BY because he rarely answers questions I direct at him.

See post 32.

[GaryC 7]

Ok, I just read the story. He sounds very idealistic and a man that is truley wanting to help out his race. But is that what America needs? It sounds like this is his main agenda, helping out people of color. Thats great if your a Senator or a church leader but America needs someone that speaks for everyone. I realize that blacks have gotten the short end of the stick here in America. I am all for giving them the chance to live the same dream that white America has had. But I am worried that he will focus on his passion to the detrament of the other things a president needs to do. I don't see any experience in economics, world politics and national security. I am sure Obama is a good man, I am just worried he will be a one issue president.

Gary, this part should interest you...

Obama takes readers on a multicultural odyssey through three continents and several political philosophies. He casts a skeptical if sympathetic eye on white liberalism, black nationalism, integration, separatism, small-scale economic development, and the transient effectiveness of charismatic black political leaders like the late mayor Washington. While Obama credits all these political movements with bringing some progress to middle-class blacks, he believes that none have built enduring institutions and none have halted the unraveling of black America.

Obama is the product of a brief early-60s college romance and short-lived marriage between a black African exchange student and a white liberal Kansan who met at the University of Hawaii. His critical boyhood years--from two to ten--were spent neither in white nor black America but in the teeming streets and jungle outskirts of Djakarta. Obama's boyhood experiences in Indonesia--where his mother took him when she married another foreign exchange student--propelled him toward a worldview well beyond his mother's liberalism.

"The poverty, the corruption, the constant scramble for security . . . remained all around me and bred a relentless skepticism. My mother's confidence in needlepoint virtues depended on a faith I didn't possess. . . . In a land where fatalism remained a necessary tool for enduring hard-ship . . . she was a lonely witness for secular humanism, a soldier for New Deal, Peace Corps, position-paper liberalism."

He's obviously not a dye-in-the-liberal that you might think he is. From what I gather, his life experiences as child born from a white mother and African father who abandoned his family have had a profound impact on his views. He's as much white as he is black, accept that as far as first impressions go, people throughout his life, have only seen him as black.

I read that. I wasn't referring to his liberalism. All you have to do is look at his voting record to see that he falls on the side of the liberals 100% of the time. My question was about something else. I am worried that he will be so focused on helping out his race that he will not address the rest of the problems in America. Or worse yet try to stack the deck in his races favor. I hate to try and bring race into this discussion but that is what this story is about.

Decoding his political leanings is the easiest thing in the world. He is the most liberal Senator currently serving.

[Heracles 417]

He's obviously not a dye-in-the-liberal that you might think he is. From what I gather, his life experiences as child born from a white mother and African father who abandoned his family have had a profound impact on his views. He's as much white as he is black, accept that as far as first impressions go, people throughout his life, have only seen him as black.

Interesting way you put it chief..

How would you have put it?

NON answer!

Answering to you or your clone?

Plus, wasn't the comment in question about his grandmother? Mom and grandma are different folks, unless you're into some perversion of the familial type.

Who bloody knows. Those white people all look the same to me..

Edited April 7, 2008 by Boo-Yah!

[no name 1]

He certainly lives up to his rules.

Number 6 & Co ACME school of forum posting

The rules:

1. Always ridicule and attack anyone who you disagree with. The more personal the better. Don't allow them to explain or clarify their own opinion. ###### em!! If it sounds racist then it bloody well is racist!! Drill it in!!

2. Ask them to provide proof for just about everything they post. Even if they state something as simple as what a beautiful day. Demand proof of it. Naturally when people discuss and debate things in person they always follow on with a prove it comment..

3. Then if they do provide the proof you asked for, rebut it and discredit it. Say it's off topic, or stupid or the author is an idiot.

4. If the conversation starts getting a little tricky or you have nothing else to ridicule, just start bringing up #### from the past or from other threads. Look for weaknesses in their sentence structure or punctuation errors. That'll show them!!

5. Also try to get as many of your buddies as possible to help and gang up on the person. Get everyone to ask questions at once. Then call them out for not answering them all.

6. Then basically repeat the process until the other person is tired of hearing your BS for the 500th time..

PS Never ever actually post proof of your own. And of course if you do post proof. Swear by it as if it's the law of the land.

Wow, how did I miss this gem?

I read that. I wasn't referring to his liberalism. All you have to do is look at his voting record to see that he falls on the side of the liberals 100% of the time. My question was about something else. I am worried that he will be so focused on helping out his race that he will not address the rest of the problems in America. Or worse yet try to stack the deck in his races favor. I hate to try and bring race into this discussion but that is what this story is about.

Decoding his political leanings is the easiest thing in the world. He is the most liberal Senator currently serving.

He won't win in November Gary, don't worry.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

He's obviously not a dye-in-the-liberal that you might think he is. From what I gather, his life experiences as child born from a white mother and African father who abandoned his family have had a profound impact on his views. He's as much white as he is black, accept that as far as first impressions go, people throughout his life, have only seen him as black.

Interesting way you put it chief..

How would you have put it?

His website tells us:

Barack's father eventually returned to Kenya, and Barack grew up with his mother in Hawaii, and for a few years in Indonesia.

Not quite the woe is me tale you spun for us.

I paraphrase from the article of this thread....

Obama comes to terms with the legacy of the African father who left his mother and him when he was two, dropped by when he was ten, and died in an auto accident when he was finishing college.

...forgive my overstatement of the facts.

[Heracles 417]

Wow, how did I miss this gem?

He is like a virus looking for a host. Write something he disagrees with and by the third post he will get personal or bring up something you said 12 years ago.

Edited April 7, 2008 by Boo-Yah!