A Protest Over Bus and Train Citizenship Checks

[mawilson 2,133]

[Heracles 417]

sorry, punjab??

here she is.. Where you "scared"?

Edit; better correct the spelling mistake before she attacks.

Edited April 3, 2008 by Boo-Yah!

[Peikko 1,575]

Were you scared?

or, Where are you? Scared?

[Heracles 417]

Were you scared?

or, Where are you? Scared?

PH has joined in as well. Good to see you here madam. Now all we need is the ultimate clown Steven..

Edited April 3, 2008 by Boo-Yah!

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

It demands on how many Wild Tangents he has in storage

I think those words are a little to big for your boots.

Naw - I've driven that $hitty highway between Melbourne and Sydney - it took me 10 hours without traffic. Compare that to the driving a comparable distance (450 miles) in the US on one of the major Interstates. Never mind getting around in the outback. And yet you always repeats that old chestnut about "infrastructure"

[SMOKE 1,426]

may i join? looks like this is gonna get good.

[Heracles 417]

Naw - I've driven that $hitty highway between Melbourne and Sydney - it took me 10 hours without traffic. Compare that to the driving a comparable distance (450 miles) in the US on one of the major Interstates. Never mind getting around in the outback. And yet you always repeats that old chestnut about "infrastructure"

I see.. Maybe they did not consider that when Melbourne and Sydney won all of those awards.

[Heracles 417]

Naw - I've driven that $hitty highway between Melbourne and Sydney - it took me 10 hours without traffic. Compare that to the driving a comparable distance (450 miles) in the US on one of the major Interstates. Never mind getting around in the outback. And yet you always repeats that old chestnut about "infrastructure"

Sorry we don't drive there we fly. Hence why the Melbourne to Sydney route is the busiest in the world. Care to tell me which city an airline flies to, from, LA every 30 minutes??

Care to tell me which flight from LA uses 747 jets, domestically, because they cannot keep up with the demand.

Edited April 3, 2008 by Boo-Yah!

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

Naw - I've driven that $hitty highway between Melbourne and Sydney - it took me 10 hours without traffic. Compare that to the driving a comparable distance (450 miles) in the US on one of the major Interstates. Never mind getting around in the outback. And yet you always repeats that old chestnut about "infrastructure"

I see.. Maybe they did not consider that when Melbourne and Sydney won all of those awards.

Certainly not for the road connecting them. So you have a few nice coastal cities - so do we! Where are your prosperous desert cities like Phoenix and Las Vegas? They don't exist! No infrastructure you see. (we have the hoover dam)

[nane1104 146]

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

Naw - I've driven that $hitty highway between Melbourne and Sydney - it took me 10 hours without traffic. Compare that to the driving a comparable distance (450 miles) in the US on one of the major Interstates. Never mind getting around in the outback. And yet you always repeats that old chestnut about "infrastructure"

Sorry we don't drive there we fly. Hence why the Melbourne to Sydney route is the busiest in the world. Care to tell me which city an airline flies to, from, LA every 30 minutes??

Care to tell me which airline uses 747 jets domestically because they cannot keep up with the demand.

And yet no train - no wonder Australians have the biggest carbon footprint per capita!

In answer to your question Las Vegas, San Diego and San Francisco - next!

Edited April 3, 2008 by rkl57

[EstebanTrabajos 7]

UHHHHHH! JERRY JERRY JERRY!

[Heracles 417]

Certainly not for the road connecting them. So you have a few nice coastal cities - so do we! Where are your prosperous desert cities like Phoenix and Las Vegas? They don't exist! No infrastructure you see. (we have the hoover dam)

Who is we. You are English anyway. You said it yourself you have only been there for a bit over 2 years now.

Maybe you can show me the equivalent $18 billion dollar 11 mile tunnel they are going to build across melbourne in La. Maybe you can show me the equivalent 10 mile under ground rail connector tunnel they are going to build in LA. Maybe you can show me who has the two tallest residential buildings.

And yet no train - no wonder Australians have the biggest carbon footprint per capita!

In answer to your question Las Vegas, San Diego and San Francisco - next!

Which airline is that?

Edit: Carbon footprint coming from someone living in LA..

Edited April 3, 2008 by Boo-Yah!

[Peikko 1,575]

Seinfeld? He got praise from law enforcement for preventing a more serious accident occurring when his car's breaks failed at an intersection. His car overturned and he was not seriously injured when he swerved dramatically to one side to avoid colliding with oncoming...or some such thing.

Edited April 3, 2008 by Purple_Hibiscus

[lucyrich 20]

There is NO requirement for US Citizens (naturalized or native-born) to carry ID in the US. OK, if they're driving a car, they've got to have a license, or if they're carrying a firearm, they've got to have a FOID card, but if they're just passengers on a bus or train, or if they're bicyclists or pedestrians, they don't need any form of ID.

Google Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial District Court for a recent ruling in this area. The Supreme court, in a 5-4 decision, said that someone who had acted in a way to provoke a reasonable suspicion by a police officer could be required to "identify himself" when a police officer asked, but the court said explicitly that such identification doesn't need to be anything more than a verbal statement of name and birthdate.

As a practical matter, if a US citizen chooses to carry proof of citizenship, he's certainly allowed to do so, but there's currently no wallet-sized durable card that works for this purpose. I don't know of any US citizen who routinely carries proof of citizenship. However, the state department is now taking applications for Passport Cards, which would seem to be well suited for carrying around routinely, especially for those who live in border areas. If you're getting a conventional passport anyway, getting a card in addition only adds $20.00 to the fee. It's something to consider when naturalizing.

But the law says you merely need to state your name and birthdate, and you only need to do that if you've already aroused reasonable suspicion that a crime may have occured.