Russia girls are amazing!

[Ban Hammer 13,659]

So you won't agree that stereotypes are rooted in reality? Or are we back on the stereotypes vs. generalizations debate?

Of course I do. But I also think that statements like the one in the OP and all they imply are foolish and ridiculous, and at the end of the day, really do not SAY anything. I mean, really - "Russian girls are amazing". Really? One could just as well say:

American girls are amazing.

British girls are amazing.

Polish girls are amazing.

Czech girls are amazing.

Chinese girls are amazing.

They're all fairly empty statements.

i think before we go saying they are amazing, we need a wet t-shirt contest first to pick a winner.

[akdiver 3]

i think before we go saying they are amazing, we need a wet t-shirt contest first to pick a winner.

Russian t-shirts are amazing!

[Okiebollweevil 0]

i think before we go saying they are amazing, we need a wet t-shirt contest first to pick a winner.

Russian t-shirts are amazing!

Yes, if you buy them in Moscow a large shrinks to a small, and the heavier t-shirts with that beautiful Hind helicopter on it rips. Yes they are amazing, amazingly cheap! Now what is really amazing are its churches. You have to go a long ways to find as ornately decorated places of worship. And Red Square is amazing. And the women, beyond compare, or if you want, amazing.

[dxt7339 1]

Guess what? The creams and things do not work. My wife is 44, soon to be 45 and she looks GREAT! I have bought all the majic creams and stuff and she has been talking about the "need" for plastic surgery. Of course, this is wehere I must draw the line. Truly, I am afraid that plastic surgery will make her look worse. It never will end. She also says that here in the USA there is not a salon anywhere like in Russia that can do a real facial.

Yep, I'd rather buy a 70$ anti-aging cream now than plastic surgery later. Preventative care is where it's at.

There should be limits set. If you were to compare health/beauty items and clothing expenditures in relation to household income, you could probably ballpark it to what a small country's military spending would be in relation to it's GDP. It's amazing to consider that whole percentages of your household income will be spent on tubes of cream and the like. However, my wife has convinced me that it is necessary for both her short term happiness and her long term "maintenance."

"If you want that I be beautiful after 20 years, I must use this cream now. It is necessary. You don't understand?"

I think it's very hard for us dudes to empathize with the ladies in this aspect. 20 years on, we're worried about where we're going to fish or play golf, and they're worried about how many wrinkles theyr'e going to have. One thing that's helped me to not be so irritated over the money spent on beauty stuff is to look at it like an investment similar to what I would be doing to retire somewhere nice or have something nice when I'm older. I work my @$$ off at my job so someday I can have the kind of salary where I can live comfortably when I'm retired and do what I want to do. That's the sacrifice I make. She works her @$$ off at her job so when she's retired her @$$ is still as fantastic as it is now. That's her sacrifice.

I don't try to compare them. It's apples and oranges and you'll go cross-eyed if you try to.

[eekee 182]

All of the clothes I bought in Russia are just as nice as the ones I bought in the US, and the same brands as I normally buy in the USA. You just need to know what to buy.

i think before we go saying they are amazing, we need a wet t-shirt contest first to pick a winner.

Russian t-shirts are amazing!

Yes, if you buy them in Moscow a large shrinks to a small, and the heavier t-shirts with that beautiful Hind helicopter on it rips. Yes they are amazing, amazingly cheap! Now what is really amazing are its churches. You have to go a long ways to find as ornately decorated places of worship. And Red Square is amazing. And the women, beyond compare, or if you want, amazing.

[slim 1,533]

that beautiful Hind helicopter.

uh... are you sure it was a Hind? I've never heard beauty and Hind being used in the same sentence.

She also says that here in the USA there is not a salon anywhere like in Russia that can do a real facial.

My wife also told me that without using chemicals to burn the outer layer of skin off the face (which will grow back after a week or so with fresh, new, beautiful skin.... #######?) a true facial can never be had. She's checked around, and no one, thus far, will do that treatment. She said we'll have to return to Russia to get that done.

I'll be dammmed if my $70 face cream and those countless hours I've spent sitting in that uncomfortable chair at the fragrance counter while she gets all that stuff done at the mall goes to waste. There's no way I'm letting them burn all that off. My hard work, blood, sweat and tears have gone into that face. She's keeping the skin she's in.

[eekee 182]

She's talking about a chemical peel. Here, they're done at a dermatologist's or plastic surgeon's office and it's not considered a "facial." But usually they're done on women much older than her and it will be very, very expensive...

maybe best to keep this information from her.

My wife also told me that without using chemicals to burn the outer layer of skin off the face (which will grow back after a week or so with fresh, new, beautiful skin.... #######?) a true facial can never be had. She's checked around, and no one, thus far, will do that treatment. She said we'll have to return to Russia to get that done.

I'll be dammmed if my $70 face cream and those countless hours I've spent sitting in that uncomfortable chair at the fragrance counter while she gets all that stuff done at the mall goes to waste. There's no way I'm letting them burn all that off. My hard work, blood, sweat and tears have gone into that face. She's keeping the skin she's in.

Edited April 28, 2008 by eekee

[Kazan' Tiger 1]

It's true, Eekee! All you have to do is be careful. Feel the fabric and have a good look and you can tell the quality. I got some very nice bargains on some sweaters and shoes. I miss going to the street market. It was always a great hunt for something decent and at even more decent price.

All of the clothes I bought in Russia are just as nice as the ones I bought in the US, and the same brands as I normally buy in the USA. You just need to know what to buy.

i think before we go saying they are amazing, we need a wet t-shirt contest first to pick a winner.

Russian t-shirts are amazing!

Yes, if you buy them in Moscow a large shrinks to a small, and the heavier t-shirts with that beautiful Hind helicopter on it rips. Yes they are amazing, amazingly cheap! Now what is really amazing are its churches. You have to go a long ways to find as ornately decorated places of worship. And Red Square is amazing. And the women, beyond compare, or if you want, amazing.

[Gaby&Talbert 1]

I am with Slim on this. Although stereotypes are clearly not PC, they hold a lot of truth. e.g., in the year I lived in Kazan', well over 90% of all the Russian men I met fit the stereotype.

So you won't agree that stereotypes are rooted in reality?

Or are we back on the stereotypes vs. generalizations debate?

What has happened to American women can be compared to the UAW union, Changes were needed but they took it too far. Now we are looking to other countries for better quality and something made to last forever!

[LvivLovers 39]

that beautiful Hind helicopter.

uh... are you sure it was a Hind? I've never heard beauty and Hind being used in the same sentence.

She also says that here in the USA there is not a salon anywhere like in Russia that can do a real facial.

My wife also told me that without using chemicals to burn the outer layer of skin off the face (which will grow back after a week or so with fresh, new, beautiful skin.... #######?) a true facial can never be had. She's checked around, and no one, thus far, will do that treatment. She said we'll have to return to Russia to get that done.

I'll be dammmed if my $70 face cream and those countless hours I've spent sitting in that uncomfortable chair at the fragrance counter while she gets all that stuff done at the mall goes to waste. There's no way I'm letting them burn all that off. My hard work, blood, sweat and tears have gone into that face. She's keeping the skin she's in.

If she's willing to "burn" her face off repeatedly...just imagine what she would do to yours! Best not to upset her in my opinion.

[LvivLovers 39]

I am with Slim on this. Although stereotypes are clearly not PC, they hold a lot of truth. e.g., in the year I lived in Kazan', well over 90% of all the Russian men I met fit the stereotype.

So you won't agree that stereotypes are rooted in reality?

Or are we back on the stereotypes vs. generalizations debate?

What has happened to American women can be compared to the UAW union, Changes were needed but they took it too far. Now we are looking to other countries for better quality and something made to last forever!

I can't say that I could generalize completely to saying Russian women are better than American women, because to be honest I haven't known that many Russian or Ukrainian women. But in the case of my wife, I can say that her beauty, brains, morals, attitude, etc. etc. are far more attractive to me than any other American woman I have ever known. Are other FSU women this way? I don't know, but in the case of my wife there is a world of difference between her and other American women I've known. From posts like this I suspect other men have had similar experiences, but maybe others have had the complete opposite experience.

I guess I have known some pretty amazing American women, but you know what? They were almost always taken! When I looked overseas it seemed to me that it was easier to find these same amazing women who were still single. Case in point...after getting out of my last horrible relationship, I was a lot more picky and looked for about 7 years without finding anyone I really felt good about. When I started looking in the FSU, I found my wife after a month or two.

To each his/her own I guess, but for me a FSU woman was definately what I was looking for.

[eekee 182]

Of course you like her more; she's the one you married!

There's less good women who are not single here because Americans wait a lot longer to get married and have children. The average age of marriage in Russia is a lot lower and people have children earlier in the marriage. People tend to get married much earlier in the relationship as well. Hence, the high rate of divorce.

I can't say that I could generalize completely to saying Russian women are better than American women, because to be honest I haven't known that many Russian or Ukrainian women. But in the case of my wife, I can say that her beauty, brains, morals, attitude, etc. etc. are far more attractive to me than any other American woman I have ever known. Are other FSU women this way? I don't know, but in the case of my wife there is a world of difference between her and other American women I've known. From posts like this I suspect other men have had similar experiences, but maybe others have had the complete opposite experience.

I guess I have known some pretty amazing American women, but you know what? They were almost always taken! When I looked overseas it seemed to me that it was easier to find these same amazing women who were still single. Case in point...after getting out of my last horrible relationship, I was a lot more picky and looked for about 7 years without finding anyone I really felt good about. When I started looking in the FSU, I found my wife after a month or two.

To each his/her own I guess, but for me a FSU woman was definately what I was looking for.

Edited April 28, 2008 by eekee

[LvivLovers 39]

Of course you like her more; she's the one you married!

There's less good women who are not single here because Americans wait a lot longer to get married and have children. The average age of marriage in Russia is a lot lower and people have children earlier in the marriage. People tend to get married much earlier in the relationship as well. Hence, the high rate of divorce.

I can't say that I could generalize completely to saying Russian women are better than American women, because to be honest I haven't known that many Russian or Ukrainian women. But in the case of my wife, I can say that her beauty, brains, morals, attitude, etc. etc. are far more attractive to me than any other American woman I have ever known. Are other FSU women this way? I don't know, but in the case of my wife there is a world of difference between her and other American women I've known. From posts like this I suspect other men have had similar experiences, but maybe others have had the complete opposite experience.

I guess I have known some pretty amazing American women, but you know what? They were almost always taken! When I looked overseas it seemed to me that it was easier to find these same amazing women who were still single. Case in point...after getting out of my last horrible relationship, I was a lot more picky and looked for about 7 years without finding anyone I really felt good about. When I started looking in the FSU, I found my wife after a month or two.

To each his/her own I guess, but for me a FSU woman was definately what I was looking for.

True. I'm still amazed how young they normally get married and have children even. I'm constantly having to tell my wife she's not old at 25, but it's hard for her to accept since most of her friends have long been married with children.

[eekee 182]

Exactly. And every night I went out I'd see girls my age wearing wedding rings who would make out with multiple guys. Why get married if you're not ready? (To be fair, I'm sure there were married guys doing the same thing, but they probably took their rings off.)

True. I'm still amazed how young they normally get married and have children even. I'm constantly having to tell my wife she's not old at 25, but it's hard for her to accept since most of her friends have long been married with children.

Edited April 28, 2008 by eekee

[LvivLovers 39]

Exactly. And every night I went out I'd see girls my age wearing wedding rings who would make out with multiple guys. Why get married if you're not ready? (To be fair, I'm sure there were married guys doing the same thing, but they probably took their rings off.)

True. I'm still amazed how young they normally get married and have children even. I'm constantly having to tell my wife she's not old at 25, but it's hard for her to accept since most of her friends have long been married with children.

Oh, ick!!!