Russia girls are amazing!

[visaveteran1 33]

The Russian forum is truly unique...a thread about amazing Russian women morphs into an in depth discussion about driving the roads of Oklahoma including farmers in pick-ups.

Anybody crossed any difficult bridges lately? Maybe encountered a traffic intersection worth an honorable mention? How about an Overpass? Cloverleaf? Railroad crossing?

[slim 1,533]

I've found the best way to avoid accidents here in the U.S. is to ignore all that "defensive driving" ####### they taught us in driver's ed and drive like they do overseas. You drive as fast as you can, wherever you can, and if there's a spot where your car will fit, then you drive it there, sidewalk or not. And those lines on the road and lights up at the intersections... those are just suggestions.

In all seriousness, I'm still trying to teach my wife to drive here and in our neighborhood there are several 5-way and even a 6-way intersection. Very fun!

Makes me miss the round-a-bouts! (Traffic circles for all of you "proper" drivers.)

[Okiebollweevil 0]

The Russian forum is truly unique...a thread about amazing Russian women morphs into an in depth discussion about driving the roads of Oklahoma including farmers in pick-ups.

Anybody crossed any difficult bridges lately? Maybe encountered a traffic intersection worth an honorable mention? How about an Overpass? Cloverleaf? Railroad crossing?

Well we did have a bull hauler overturn on a freeway onramp this afternoon. It was funny watching the Sheriff's dept. bring in their horses, saddle up, and lasso those dogies. Then of course, this is the environment that we are bringing our Russian women to, not only Bob and I but others before us and hopefully many afterwards. And for Slim the pie is great, home made with native grown peaches, lemon meringue to die for, and the huckleberry pie, well you would never leave Oklahoma without sampling it and going to the machine gun shoot down in SE Oklahoma. I took my wife to a gun show last weekend and she was horrified. I explained that purchases from a dealer take 5 days now (not like the good old days where I could walk my gun to the next table and buy some ammo and load up once I hit the parking lot) but there were many folks there that were not selling under a dealer's license, and it is my understanding it is delivery on purchase. She was truly frightened about the way people in the US can get guns, not mentioning the flea market and swap meets and classifieds in the paper.

[slim 1,533]

Well we did have a bull hauler overturn on a freeway onramp this afternoon. It was funny watching the Sheriff's dept. bring in their horses, saddle up, and lasso those dogies. Then of course, this is the environment that we are bringing our

Russian women to, not only Bob and I but others before us and hopefully many afterwards.

That actually would be quite nice. Last time we had some cattle on the freeway it was about a 5 1/2 hour clean-up. I guess they don't like the idea of having 1200lb beasts running across the road where 2400lb cars are travelling 70mph. It would be quite funny to see the Sheriff's dept. out there on horseback working the lassos... I don't even think they have horses. And don't get me started on the city's horses.... "Don't touch my horse again or I'll put you in jail!"

And for Slim the pie is great, home made with native grown peaches, lemon meringue to die for, and the huckleberry pie, well you would never leave Oklahoma without sampling it and going to the machine gun shoot down in SE Oklahoma. I took my wife to a gun show last weekend and she was horrified. I explained that purchases from a dealer take 5 days now (not like the good old days where I could walk my gun to the next table and buy some ammo and load up once I hit the parking lot) but there were many folks there that were not selling under a dealer's license, and it is my understanding it is delivery on purchase. She was truly frightened about the way people in the US can get guns, not mentioning the flea market and swap meets and classifieds in the paper.

I bought a 10/22 from Bass Pro a few weeks back and didn't get it for 5 days. I was supposed to be able to take it home with me but they said the FBI/ATF name check sometimes gets delayed and I'd have to wait until they called back. What a bummer. They said it wasn't because of a waiting period or anything like that, just had to get approval on my name check. Last I knew a 4473 didn't require a name check, but it's been quite a while since I bought a gun at the store, so maybe they do now. Patriot Act and all... wouldn't surprise me one bit. I know we stopped trusting our citizens a long time ago but I didn't realize buying a .22 semi-auto rifle was going to lop me into the same bin as those buying Tec-9s and AK knockoffs. And not that the people buying those legally use them in a lot of crimes.

I'm just going to stop typing because I could type all day about this topic. Your wife was scared about how easily we can get guns and I'm scared how easily people willingly give up their rights to have them. Arrghh! Done for now.

[Okiebollweevil 0]

Well we did have a bull hauler overturn on a freeway onramp this afternoon. It was funny watching the Sheriff's dept. bring in their horses, saddle up, and lasso those dogies. Then of course, this is the environment that we are bringing our

Russian women to, not only Bob and I but others before us and hopefully many afterwards.

That actually would be quite nice. Last time we had some cattle on the freeway it was about a 5 1/2 hour clean-up. I guess they don't like the idea of having 1200lb beasts running across the road where 2400lb cars are travelling 70mph. It would be quite funny to see the Sheriff's dept. out there on horseback working the lassos... I don't even think they have horses. And don't get me started on the city's horses.... "Don't touch my horse again or I'll put you in jail!"

And for Slim the pie is great, home made with native grown peaches, lemon meringue to die for, and the huckleberry pie, well you would never leave Oklahoma without sampling it and going to the machine gun shoot down in SE Oklahoma. I took my wife to a gun show last weekend and she was horrified. I explained that purchases from a dealer take 5 days now (not like the good old days where I could walk my gun to the next table and buy some ammo and load up once I hit the parking lot) but there were many folks there that were not selling under a dealer's license, and it is my understanding it is delivery on purchase. She was truly frightened about the way people in the US can get guns, not mentioning the flea market and swap meets and classifieds in the paper.

I bought a 10/22 from Bass Pro a few weeks back and didn't get it for 5 days. I was supposed to be able to take it home with me but they said the FBI/ATF name check sometimes gets delayed and I'd have to wait until they called back. What a bummer. They said it wasn't because of a waiting period or anything like that, just had to get approval on my name check. Last I knew a 4473 didn't require a name check, but it's been quite a while since I bought a gun at the store, so maybe they do now. Patriot Act and all... wouldn't surprise me one bit. I know we stopped trusting our citizens a long time ago but I didn't realize buying a .22 semi-auto rifle was going to lop me into the same bin as those buying Tec-9s and AK knockoffs. And not that the people buying those legally use them in a lot of crimes.

I'm just going to stop typing because I could type all day about this topic. Your wife was scared about how easily we can get guns and I'm scared how easily people willingly give up their rights to have them. Arrghh! Done for now.

Yeah I've got guns all over the house but the only one I have loaded up is a 12 gauge winchester defender for home invaders. My wife advised me that in Russia you can only get a sporting firearm (read rifle shotgun) after a police background check and an interview with a psychologist. I have seen folks at the gun shows that wouldn't be given a gun by a psychologist if there were a 100 raving gun toting maniacs across the street firing at them. I did find an interesting casing while wandering in the taiga in Russia, all aluminum thought it was a shotgun hull, and a friend checked out for me , it was a pistol designed to fire rubber bullets, but the casing looks about the size of a 20 gauge. Wouldn't want to fire that with my skinny ole wrists. Well count me in with the gun huggers and barrel suckers (an old Marine friend of mine coined that one on me). Don't hunt anymore Mama couldn't stand it if little Bambi was a trophy in the freezer, so my guns just sit around and rust away. But she does want me to take her out to shoot (and her being a lieutenant in the Russian army) thought I would start her out with a single action 22 revolver, not much kick, safe, and graduate her up to a 357 with 38 loads or a 9.

[slim 1,533]

My dad just bought a new hand cannon from Bass Pro yesterday and they let him walk out with it. Gun box in one hand, ammo box in the other. He said they did call the FBI and got instant approval (he always did have better credit than me!) so I guess my five day wait was just a fluke.

I took my wife shooting (well, I went shooting and she was there) and it was a rather cold day. She stood there for about two minutes, fired off approximately ONE shot, then complained about the gun (Marlin-60 .22LR) being too heavy and the weather being too cold. That's been the extent of our shooting so far. So, if you're going to take your wife shooting, make sure it's a nice day.

She's been telling me for the longest time that the shotgun I keep under our bed is bad Feng Shui and I should move it. I tell her it's the best Feng Shui we have in our whole house and it'll move only after she learns to shoot it well enough to keep it farther away. I'm not concerned for her safety in our house, but knowing it's there, I'm pretty sure she'd make an unwelcome guest feel very unwelcome.

[Okiebollweevil 0]

My dad just bought a new hand cannon from Bass Pro yesterday and they let him walk out with it. Gun box in one hand, ammo box in the other. He said they did call the FBI and got instant approval (he always did have better credit than me!) so I guess my five day wait was just a fluke.

I took my wife shooting (well, I went shooting and she was there) and it was a rather cold day. She stood there for about two minutes, fired off approximately ONE shot, then complained about the gun (Marlin-60 .22LR) being too heavy and the weather being too cold. That's been the extent of our shooting so far. So, if you're going to take your wife shooting, make sure it's a nice day.

She's been telling me for the longest time that the shotgun I keep under our bed is bad Feng Shui and I should move it. I tell her it's the best Feng Shui we have in our whole house and it'll move only after she learns to shoot it well enough to keep it farther away. I'm not concerned for her safety in our house, but knowing it's there, I'm pretty sure she'd make an unwelcome guest feel very unwelcome.

I am going to see if I have an old RG single action 22 around for her to plink with. If not, would like to get that old Ruger single action with the convertible cylinders, 22 & 22 mag. If you have never had a 10-22 before you are going to like it. Did you get walnut or brich stock? Doesn't make it shoot any better but those walnut stocks lookk good. Used to collect steyr rifles unusual, but with double set triggers excellent sear. I used to use an old 22 rem. bolt action for popping squirrels in my backyard (they were eating all my pecans and depriving me of peecan pie ingredients), right here in the middle of town using shorts. Never a complaint from the neighbors. Used to have a Mark II bull barrel with a Ciener hush puppy on it, but it was stolen. Very quiet, would use rat shot in it to remove pigeons but it didn't cycle very well. Great for in town use, local police that patrolled our neighborhood would come over and pop a few rounds with it. Also have a few toys left from my Class III days, mostly rust collectors now. Had a chance to get a m-60 cheap should have, but opted for antique class III stuff. Mistake. Wanted a Beretta 9 with 3 shot burst but it was expensive back in 82' cost $1,250. Oh well life is full of regrets. Will see if Mama wants to shoot any of my old fun stuff, take a photo for her dad perhaps in a military pose.

[visaveteran1 33]

My dad just bought a new hand cannon from Bass Pro yesterday and they let him walk out with it. Gun box in one hand, ammo box in the other. He said they did call the FBI and got instant approval (he always did have better credit than me!) so I guess my five day wait was just a fluke.

I took my wife shooting (well, I went shooting and she was there) and it was a rather cold day. She stood there for about two minutes, fired off approximately ONE shot, then complained about the gun (Marlin-60 .22LR) being too heavy and the weather being too cold. That's been the extent of our shooting so far. So, if you're going to take your wife shooting, make sure it's a nice day.

She's been telling me for the longest time that the shotgun I keep under our bed is bad Feng Shui and I should move it. I tell her it's the best Feng Shui we have in our whole house and it'll move only after she learns to shoot it well enough to keep it farther away. I'm not concerned for her safety in our house, but knowing it's there, I'm pretty sure she'd make an unwelcome guest feel very unwelcome.

I am going to see if I have an old RG single action 22 around for her to plink with. If not, would like to get that old Ruger single action with the convertible cylinders, 22 & 22 mag. If you have never had a 10-22 before you are going to like it. Did you get walnut or brich stock? Doesn't make it shoot any better but those walnut stocks lookk good. Used to collect steyr rifles unusual, but with double set triggers excellent sear. I used to use an old 22 rem. bolt action for popping squirrels in my backyard (they were eating all my pecans and depriving me of peecan pie ingredients), right here in the middle of town using shorts. Never a complaint from the neighbors. Used to have a Mark II bull barrel with a Ciener hush puppy on it, but it was stolen. Very quiet, would use rat shot in it to remove pigeons but it didn't cycle very well. Great for in town use, local police that patrolled our neighborhood would come over and pop a few rounds with it. Also have a few toys left from my Class III days, mostly rust collectors now. Had a chance to get a m-60 cheap should have, but opted for antique class III stuff. Mistake. Wanted a Beretta 9 with 3 shot burst but it was expensive back in 82' cost $1,250. Oh well life is full of regrets. Will see if Mama wants to shoot any of my old fun stuff, take a photo for her dad perhaps in a military pose.

I think you should buy her a Makarov to honor her culture...and they're quite nice.

[slim 1,533]

I am going to see if I have an old RG single action 22 around for her to plink with. If not, would like to get that old Ruger single action with the convertible cylinders, 22 & 22 mag. If you have never had a 10-22 before you are going to like it. Did you get walnut or brich stock? Doesn't make it shoot any better but those walnut stocks lookk good. Used to collect steyr rifles unusual, but with double set triggers excellent sear. I used to use an old 22 rem. bolt action for popping squirrels in my backyard (they were eating all my pecans and depriving me of peecan pie ingredients), right here in the middle of town using shorts. Never a complaint from the neighbors. Used to have a Mark II bull barrel with a Ciener hush puppy on it, but it was stolen. Very quiet, would use rat shot in it to remove pigeons but it didn't cycle very well. Great for in town use, local police that patrolled our neighborhood would come over and pop a few rounds with it. Also have a few toys left from my Class III days, mostly rust collectors now. Had a chance to get a m-60 cheap should have, but opted for antique class III stuff. Mistake. Wanted a Beretta 9 with 3 shot burst but it was expensive back in 82' cost $1,250. Oh well life is full of regrets. Will see if Mama wants to shoot any of my old fun stuff, take a photo for her dad perhaps in a military pose.

I think you should buy her a Makarov to honor her culture...and they're quite nice.

The Kalashnikov is also a popular choice!

I do like my 10/22 already. First one. I've had a Marlin-60 for years and it's a blast to shoot, but it's tube fed, so I had to get the 10/22 in order to do some mag changes. The very reason I bought it is to practice military style shooting in a more affordable package. I have a Colt MT-6601 (AR-15) and I'm running my Ruger in a similar set up. I installed some Tech Sites (which are basically the same as the M-16A2 sites) and a polymer stock with a pistol grip so it feels a lot like my AR. It doesn't shoot quite like it yet.....

With the 10/22 I'm hoping to be able to teach my wife and others to shoot. She was a little too young for the Red Army and missed the "Grenade Toss/AK-47 shooting day" in gym class. (She did have to pick potatoes though!) so I'm going to have to show her the basics. I built my 10/22 to be a Liberty Training Rifle (check out http://www.rwva.org for more on building an LTR and what Appleseed is all about) and hopefully I'll get to do some training on it. Last time it was too cold outside so maybe next time it'll get graced by a woman's touch.

Sure wish I had an M-60. What an awesome gun! I remember asking my mom to buy me one for Christmas when I was 12. She said, "NO WAY!" and I remember arguing with her for hours over why a 12-year-old needed a belt fed machine gun. Needless to say I lost that one but about six years later my Uncle gave me one. I had to give it back, but it sure was fun to play with. The 240Bs are cool too, but they don't "feel" like the pig. Nothing feels like the pig. I still remember reporting to my first yard and one of the head NCOs was standing around taking roll or something and one of the new guys was cleaning his M-60. He pulled out the buffer retaining yoke (for those not in the know, it's a little piece in the back of the gun that holds the buffer, which is under spring tension, in place) without holding the buffer and that sucker went flying across the room and hit the NCO right on top of his foot. It not only scuffed his boot, but made him wince and cry out in front of all of us, which shattered his pride. He quickly recovered and to put it mildly, conducted some very extensive "refresher training."

[Ban Hammer 13,659]

I am going to see if I have an old RG single action 22 around for her to plink with. If not, would like to get that old Ruger single action with the convertible cylinders, 22 & 22 mag. If you have never had a 10-22 before you are going to like it. Did you get walnut or brich stock? Doesn't make it shoot any better but those walnut stocks lookk good. Used to collect steyr rifles unusual, but with double set triggers excellent sear. I used to use an old 22 rem. bolt action for popping squirrels in my backyard (they were eating all my pecans and depriving me of peecan pie ingredients), right here in the middle of town using shorts. Never a complaint from the neighbors. Used to have a Mark II bull barrel with a Ciener hush puppy on it, but it was stolen. Very quiet, would use rat shot in it to remove pigeons but it didn't cycle very well. Great for in town use, local police that patrolled our neighborhood would come over and pop a few rounds with it. Also have a few toys left from my Class III days, mostly rust collectors now. Had a chance to get a m-60 cheap should have, but opted for antique class III stuff. Mistake. Wanted a Beretta 9 with 3 shot burst but it was expensive back in 82' cost $1,250. Oh well life is full of regrets. Will see if Mama wants to shoot any of my old fun stuff, take a photo for her dad perhaps in a military pose.

I think you should buy her a Makarov to honor her culture...and they're quite nice.

The Kalashnikov is also a popular choice!

I do like my 10/22 already. First one. I've had a Marlin-60 for years and it's a blast to shoot, but it's tube fed, so I had to get the 10/22 in order to do some mag changes. The very reason I bought it is to practice military style shooting in a more affordable package. I have a Colt MT-6601 (AR-15) and I'm running my Ruger in a similar set up. I installed some Tech Sites (which are basically the same as the M-16A2 sites) and a polymer stock with a pistol grip so it feels a lot like my AR. It doesn't shoot quite like it yet.....

With the 10/22 I'm hoping to be able to teach my wife and others to shoot. She was a little too young for the Red Army and missed the "Grenade Toss/AK-47 shooting day" in gym class. (She did have to pick potatoes though!) so I'm going to have to show her the basics. I built my 10/22 to be a Liberty Training Rifle (check out http://www.rwva.org for more on building an LTR and what Appleseed is all about) and hopefully I'll get to do some training on it. Last time it was too cold outside so maybe next time it'll get graced by a woman's touch.

Sure wish I had an M-60. What an awesome gun! I remember asking my mom to buy me one for Christmas when I was 12. She said, "NO WAY!" and I remember arguing with her for hours over why a 12-year-old needed a belt fed machine gun. Needless to say I lost that one but about six years later my Uncle gave me one. I had to give it back, but it sure was fun to play with. The 240Bs are cool too, but they don't "feel" like the pig. Nothing feels like the pig. I still remember reporting to my first yard and one of the head NCOs was standing around taking roll or something and one of the new guys was cleaning his M-60. He pulled out the buffer retaining yoke (for those not in the know, it's a little piece in the back of the gun that holds the buffer, which is under spring tension, in place) without holding the buffer and that sucker went flying across the room and hit the NCO right on top of his foot. It not only scuffed his boot, but made him wince and cry out in front of all of us, which shattered his pride. He quickly recovered and to put it mildly, conducted some very extensive "refresher training."

you was calvin from calvin and hobbs when you were growing up, right?

yeah them 60 springs are a bear. even worse on the m-2 "maw duece" .50 cal.

[slim 1,533]

Maw duece was also one of my favorites. When you lubricate a gun by pouring motor oil on it and watching it catch on fire, and then shoot through that.... it's pretty spectacular. Shooting a machine gun that's on fire. There are only a few things in the world better than that!

[visaveteran1 33]

Maw duece was also one of my favorites. When you lubricate a gun by pouring motor oil on it and watching it catch on fire, and then shoot through that.... it's pretty spectacular. Shooting a machine gun that's on fire. There are only a few things in the world better than that!

Amen brother, amen. Been there...a peak experience.

[visaveteran1 33]

Maw duece was also one of my favorites. When you lubricate a gun by pouring motor oil on it and watching it catch on fire, and then shoot through that.... it's pretty spectacular. Shooting a machine gun that's on fire. There are only a few things in the world better than that!

Amen brother, amen. Been there...a peak experience.

Want to really get a military hardware high...sit in and fire a Quad-Fifty.

[Okiebollweevil 0]

Maw duece was also one of my favorites. When you lubricate a gun by pouring motor oil on it and watching it catch on fire, and then shoot through that.... it's pretty spectacular. Shooting a machine gun that's on fire. There are only a few things in the world better than that!

Amen brother, amen. Been there...a peak experience.

Want to really get a military hardware high...sit in and fire a Quad-Fifty.

Isn't that an anti-aircraft gun similar to a ZSU? I suspect you can lay a hell of a field of fire with quad fiftys on infantry. Can you imagine a sapper running the gauntlet when faced with something like 50s zinging around? Saw a Barrett at a recent gun show. Had a friend with one who was an ex-seal, never did get to pop one off. If memory serves me correctly it is single shot but I could be mistaken. Heavy sucker though. Did you see any fuel-air bombs used in Nam? I heard that they were especially effective for clearing LZs, but came late in the war.

[slim 1,533]

There's nothing left of sappers when .50s are zinging around!

Quad-50 would be very cool. I understand it's possible to shoot one at the Knob Creek shoots when they hold them. I've seen several of the old guys on TV talk about the quads and the look in their eye, the grin on their face, it doesn't get much better than that. The closest I've seen to that is probably the ball turret gunners but they usually had the "crazy" look too, that look that says, "I survived... but just barely! And not because I had the best equipment or I was the best shot or had the best training.... but I was the luckiest SOB out there!"

I too got to mess with the Barretts at a gun show recently. They have two basic models; one is single shot bolt action, the other is semi-auto. Either way, they're extra heavy and not so cheap. I actually had the money to buy one a few years ago (reenlistment bonus from my Uncle) and was going to "invest" the money in buying one. After some careful evaluation, I decided I really didn't need a $8,000 rifle sitting under my bed. Well, that and they were on about a year backorder so I would've had to wait for it anyway. The Barretts are one of those rifles that send up a little red flag at the J. Edgar Hoover building. Whenever there's a 4473 with an M-82A1 on it, they tend to ask, "So, what are you going to do with your .50cal?" I had a good answer already picked out. "Plinking."