Does anyone NOT want to be a USC?

[JeroenAndMichelle 28]

Tax treaties exist. When you are a US citizen or LPR, your worldwide income is subject to US taxation. In reality, that is only true if you make more than the equivalent of $86(?)K a year (but even if you didn't, you still have to file). However, you can't build up a tax liability and then skip town on it. There are also some vague areas of the passage that would probably be best cleared up with a lawyer first.

P.L. 104-191 contains changes in the taxation of U.S. citizens who renounce or otherwise lose U.S. citizenship. In general, any person who lost U.S. citizenship within 10 years immediately preceding the close of the taxable year, whose principle purpose in losing citizenship was to avoid taxation, will be subject to continued taxation.

That's pretty screwed up then :S

good thing to know in advance tho, thx

[Team J and B 2]

I choose not to take on US citizenship nor my husband's surname when we marry.

Reading this thread has taught me so much about the benefits of taking US citizenship, so now I might be swayed. I wouldn't want to be widowed and be left in a tough situ because I've been in the USA for decades but am not naturalized, you know what I mean?

This might sound really immature but it's how I feel about my current status: I'm Canadian, I'm from a first world country that is loved by every country in the world, more than they love the USA. I'm a citizen of a first world country, I have no need to take on citizenship of a second first world country for "patriotic" or "loyalty" purposes, etc. My background and history is Canadian.

But this thread has enlightened me, so I will have to rethink my stance. I will gladly take on dual citizenship, but I wouldn't fight it tooth and nail and lobby and sue and petition, etc. if you know what I mean. If it came down to choosing one or the other, I'd keep my Canadianness. I feel very blessed I'm not one who has to choose between my third world passport and a USA passport. That would hurt.

[Krikit 1,164]

Yes. As I said in another post, it is good to know that my husband will be able to visit Canada without a visa, but we probably won't be going to Canada, and except for Canada and Mexico and the other countries in West

And what's wrong with visiting Canada, young lady?

[GabiandVi 34]

Yes. As I said in another post, it is good to know that my husband will be able to visit Canada without a visa, but we probably won't be going to Canada, and except for Canada and Mexico and the other countries in West

And what's wrong with visiting Canada, young lady?

: Nothing, of course. Just we will be living about as far from the border as possible and still be in the 48 contiguous. On my husband's first trip to the US, we went to Niagra Falls after visiting my brother in Vermont. We tried going across the friendship bridge. We thought it couldn't hurt. But my husband was turned back. They were very nice, and they were a little confused because there simply are not very many of my husband's countrymen in the US, so they weren't sure about the visa restrictions for his country, etc.

Anyway, my best friend, from Alberta, will be coming to visit us this summer, so we won't need to go there.

[simple_male 1]

Top 10 Benefits of US Citizenship

where is benfit # 10?!

# 10: Feel More American, when "Dubiya" addresses, "My Fellow Americans."

Yes. As I said in another post, it is good to know that my husband will be able to visit Canada without a visa, but we probably won't be going to Canada, and except for Canada and Mexico and the other countries in West

And what's wrong with visiting Canada, young lady?

: Nothing, of course. Just we will be living about as far from the border as possible and still be in the 48 contiguous. On my husband's first trip to the US, we went to Niagra Falls after visiting my brother in Vermont. We tried going across the friendship bridge. We thought it couldn't hurt. But my husband was turned back. They were very nice, and they were a little confused because there simply are not very many of my husband's countrymen in the US, so they weren't sure about the visa restrictions for his country, etc.

Anyway, my best friend, from Alberta, will be coming to visit us this summer, so we won't need to go there.

View of Niagara Falls from Canadian side is also great!

[GabiandVi 34]

Top 10 Benefits of US Citizenship

where is benfit # 10?!

# 10: Feel More American, when "Dubiya" addresses, "My Fellow Americans."

Yes. As I said in another post, it is good to know that my husband will be able to visit Canada without a visa, but we probably won't be going to Canada, and except for Canada and Mexico and the other countries in West

And what's wrong with visiting Canada, young lady?

: Nothing, of course. Just we will be living about as far from the border as possible and still be in the 48 contiguous. On my husband's first trip to the US, we went to Niagra Falls after visiting my brother in Vermont. We tried going across the friendship bridge. We thought it couldn't hurt. But my husband was turned back. They were very nice, and they were a little confused because there simply are not very many of my husband's countrymen in the US, so they weren't sure about the visa restrictions for his country, etc.

Anyway, my best friend, from Alberta, will be coming to visit us this summer, so we won't need to go there.

View of Niagara Falls from Canadian side is also great!

We were told it was better than the view on the American side. My husband said that was why he wanted to go, but I think he just wanted to tell his friends he had been to Canada on his trip to America.

[Krikit 1,164]

We were told it was better than the view on the American side. My husband said that was why he wanted to go, but I think he just wanted to tell his friends he had been to Canada on his trip to America.

That's what my relatives living in England wanted to do whenever they visited us in Canada.... cross the border to the US.... for the same reason.

[Gaby&Talbert 1]

I hope everyone here will educate themselves on the benifits of becoming a citizen. It is important you LEARN THEM NOW and not wait until something really bad happens like your spouse dying and finding out what else you have lost. Also consider the burden you may become on your children or relatives if you aren't entitled to the benefits at a citizen? What would happen if you did go back to your home country after retirement age and what will be there for you?

[Krikit 1,164]

I hope everyone here will educate themselves on the benifits of becoming a citizen. It is important you LEARN THEM NOW and not wait until something really bad happens like your spouse dying and finding out what else you have lost. Also consider the burden you may become on your children or relatives if you aren't entitled to the benefits at a citizen? What would happen if you did go back to your home country after retirement age and what will be there for you?

Well said. I became highly educated after my first husband died. NOT a good time to get educated, lemme tell you.

[Dr. Obvious 49]

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QUOTE(Team J and B @ Apr 3 2008, 10:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

If it came down to choosing one or the other, I'd keep my Canadianness. I feel very blessed I'm not one who has to choose between my third world passport and a USA passport. That would hurt.

I have a choice between a first world passport and a first world passport. Both have their own advantages and disadvantages but, regardless, I can't have both.

The question for some may boil down to simply "What citizenship is the most useful and relevant today?".

[JeroenAndMichelle 28]

I hope everyone here will educate themselves on the benifits of becoming a citizen. It is important you LEARN THEM NOW and not wait until something really bad happens like your spouse dying and finding out what else you have lost. Also consider the burden you may become on your children or relatives if you aren't entitled to the benefits at a citizen? What would happen if you did go back to your home country after retirement age and what will be there for you?

I know that I will be able to get money from a retirement fund in my current country if I go back after I reach the retirment age, I will even get the money when I retire in the US. However, I will only get it for the years I have lived here, so not all the years.

One thing which does bother me is how #&&$# my current government is.. for example; when I become a USC then I will be able to keep my Dutch nationality, however, only for the time that I am married... if I divorce or if my SO dies or something, then I will lose my Dutch nationality if I am still a USC and living in the States...pretty weird, I know but yah.. I read it over and over again, it is really like this for me :S

[Gaby&Talbert 1]

I hope everyone here will educate themselves on the benifits of becoming a citizen. It is important you LEARN THEM NOW and not wait until something really bad happens like your spouse dying and finding out what else you have lost. Also consider the burden you may become on your children or relatives if you aren't entitled to the benefits at a citizen? What would happen if you did go back to your home country after retirement age and what will be there for you?

I know that I will be able to get money from a retirement fund in my current country if I go back after I reach the retirment age, I will even get the money when I retire in the US. However, I will only get it for the years I have lived here, so not all the years.

One thing which does bother me is how #&&$# my current government is.. for example; when I become a USC then I will be able to keep my Dutch nationality, however, only for the time that I am married... if I divorce or if my SO dies or something, then I will lose my Dutch nationality if I am still a USC and living in the States...pretty weird, I know but yah.. I read it over and over again, it is really like this for me :S

You are entitled to your US spouses SS. I would look at the numbers and see which will pay the most. Also look at inheritance tax laws for citizen compared to an LPR.

[Peikko 1,575]

I don't necessarily 'want' to become a USC, but it will be convenient to do so - for many of the reasons cited - so I more than likely will.