Does anyone NOT want to be a USC?

[sereia 0]

my dad has been a green card holder for over 40 years and hasn't had any problems. *shrug*!

[bollandista 0]

Thanks everyone for the responses. It's good to become better informed about this. I really handed considered some of the advantages.

I think now maybe I'll go for dual citizenship. Just as you never know if the US will pull the rug out form under your feet you never know when the political situation might be better somewhere else...

B.

[mawilson 2,133]

And if the widow(er)/Divorcee (new USC) moves back to their homeland, after naturalizing, they will always have to pay US taxes.

Well...that sounds like a reason not to naturalize

[JeroenAndMichelle 28]

And if the widow(er)/Divorcee (new USC) moves back to their homeland, after naturalizing, they will always have to pay US taxes.

Unless you voluntarily give up the US citizenship

[Dr. Obvious 49]

E. TAX & MILITARY OBLIGATIONS /NO ESCAPE FROM PROSECUTION

Also, persons who wish to renounce U.S. citizenship should also be aware that the fact that a person has renounced U.S. citizenship may have no effect whatsoever on his or her U.S. tax or military service obligations (contact the Internal Revenue Service or U.S. Selective Service for more information). In addition, the act of renouncing U.S. citizenship will not allow persons to avoid possible prosecution for crimes which they may have committed in the United States, or escape the repayment of financial obligations previously incurred in the United States or incurred as United States citizens abroad.

[JeroenAndMichelle 28]

I kinda don't think people will have to pay tax money they earned in a different country after they left the states and after they renounced their citizenship. For money earned in jobs and such while they were still in the states, then yes but otherwise I highly doubt it is like that. When I move to the states I will also still need to pay tax over the previous year to the Dutch government, that's just normal.

It is really hard to believe that any earnings made after the perosn left the states and is not a USC anymore are still taxed in the states... lol.. imagine getting urself through like 5 different naturalization processes and a rule like that, you wont be able to make any money at all in the rest of your life that way

[Dr. Obvious 49]

Tax treaties exist. When you are a US citizen or LPR, your worldwide income is subject to US taxation. In reality, that is only true if you make more than the equivalent of $86(?)K a year (but even if you didn't, you still have to file). However, you can't build up a tax liability and then skip town on it. There are also some vague areas of the passage that would probably be best cleared up with a lawyer first.

P.L. 104-191 contains changes in the taxation of U.S. citizens who renounce or otherwise lose U.S. citizenship. In general, any person who lost U.S. citizenship within 10 years immediately preceding the close of the taxable year, whose principle purpose in losing citizenship was to avoid taxation, will be subject to continued taxation.

Edited April 3, 2008 by Wacken

[Krikit 1,164]

Thanks everyone for the responses. It's good to become better informed about this. I really handed considered some of the advantages.

I think now maybe I'll go for dual citizenship. Just as you never know if the US will pull the rug out form under your feet you never know when the political situation might be better somewhere else...

B.

Saffyre had mentioned in another thread about one of the advantages of naturalization being not having to report our whereabouts to USCIS whenever we relocate. That's so true. I always feel like I'm on probation or parole or something, and that I don't truly belong or am welcome here. I think naturalization will help with that.

[*JG* 2]

Top 10 Benefits of US Citizenship

I also read somewhere about survivor's benefit issues with a LPR.

Andre is going to naturalize. He isn't required to give up Jamaican citizenship, so why not.

[DeadPoolX 9]

Top 10 Benefits of US Citizenship

I also read somewhere about survivor's benefit issues with a LPR.

Andre is going to naturalize. He isn't required to give up Jamaican citizenship, so why not.

The only argument I've heard that's against dual-citizenship (in the United States) is that the U.S. will recognize you only as a U.S. citizen when you're within this country. Off-hand, that doesn't sound bad at all, but if there was ever some sort of conflict between the U.S. and an immigrant's home country, they'd have a slight problem since they now have citizenship in both the U.S. and their original country.

In addition, if you're a dual-citizen, your original country may not be able to assist you if you're in your second (new) country, since you're now a citizen of that country as well. This is one of the reasons why the U.S. tends to frown upon dual-citizenship of Americans, since the U.S. government could see its hands effectively tied (depending on the situation) if an American citizen is also a citizen of another country.

In most cases, however, it'd be beneficial to become a citizen of the United States, especially if you can retain your citizenship in your original country as well. Unless you're from a nation that has a history of being somewhat hostile with the U.S. (and as far as I know, Jamaica isn't one of them), the chances of a problem developing between both countries is relatively slim.

[almaty 19]

sanita plans on becoming a citizen also, and will keep her orgianl countries citizenship too....

[*JG* 2]

Thanks everyone for the responses. It's good to become better informed about this. I really handed considered some of the advantages.

I think now maybe I'll go for dual citizenship. Just as you never know if the US will pull the rug out form under your feet you never know when the political situation might be better somewhere else...

B.

Saffyre had mentioned in another thread about one of the advantages of naturalization being not having to report our whereabouts to USCIS whenever we relocate. That's so true. I always feel like I'm on probation or parole or something, and that I don't truly belong or am welcome here. I think naturalization will help with that.

That's another reason.

[simple_male 1]

My aunt came to the US from British Columbia (now Belize) as a high school student and stayed on to go to nursing school. She lived for at least 40 years as an LPR married to my uncle, but after their children grew up she wanted to go back to work. She never wanted to give up her loyalty to the Queen (imagine that), but she found that it was just very costly to work as an LPR, so she got her citizenship.

My husband will not give up citizenship to his country, but we definitely want for him to get US citizenship. If he wants to visit Canada, he has to get a visa and his chances are not great. Every time he flies, he has to pass through France, sometimes with a 23 hour layover. If he wants to leave the airport he has to get a visa. It will just be so much easier when he has citizenship and can benefit from the VWP. Also, I hope to go abroad again some day, and we don't want to have to hassle with how he keeps his residency if we live abroad for several years, etc. It's just easier.

LPR's of the US can visit Canada or Mexico without a visa.

I think they are still waiting for a visa.

Yes, LPR's of US can visit Canada and Mexico without a visa, but need visa to visit UK. To become a US citizen is a choice one has to make. There are good reasons to be US Citizens.

[BabyBlueSusie 1]

Top 10 Benefits of US Citizenship

where is benfit # 10?!

[GabiandVi 34]

My aunt came to the US from British Columbia (now Belize) as a high school student and stayed on to go to nursing school. She lived for at least 40 years as an LPR married to my uncle, but after their children grew up she wanted to go back to work. She never wanted to give up her loyalty to the Queen (imagine that), but she found that it was just very costly to work as an LPR, so she got her citizenship.

My husband will not give up citizenship to his country, but we definitely want for him to get US citizenship. If he wants to visit Canada, he has to get a visa and his chances are not great. Every time he flies, he has to pass through France, sometimes with a 23 hour layover. If he wants to leave the airport he has to get a visa. It will just be so much easier when he has citizenship and can benefit from the VWP. Also, I hope to go abroad again some day, and we don't want to have to hassle with how he keeps his residency if we live abroad for several years, etc. It's just easier.

LPR's of the US can visit Canada or Mexico without a visa.

I think they are still waiting for a visa.

Yes, LPR's of US can visit Canada and Mexico without a visa, but need visa to visit UK. To become a US citizen is a choice one has to make. There are good reasons to be US Citizens.

Yes. As I said in another post, it is good to know that my husband will be able to visit Canada without a visa, but we probably won't be going to Canada, and except for Canada and Mexico and the other countries in West Africa, he would need a visa to visit, or even to leave the airports during overnight layovers. As it is now, I can go to most countries without a visa, but pretty much everywhere we want to go, he has to get one. And if we choose to work abroad again . . .