11 Students Plotted To Kill Third-Grade Teacher

[Peikko 1,575]

There is nothing babying about educating a child in the proper response to emotions. Of course, I am sure you are about to insult my experiences with stories of how my child is probably some ###### up monster in the making and how as a parent I must of course be blind to his faults and only pander to his whims.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

We should label them enemy combatants and send them to Gitmo...they'll make 'em talk.

The kids or the parents. Either way they need to be sent to Singapore. After going through their correction system they will come back boy scouts.

Exactly. I've always believed that people like Hitler only needed a little more punishment from his parents and he would have ended up being a painter on the street corner.

Have a look at both the living standards and crime rates of Singapore then get back to me..

Heck, why stop at Singapore...why don't we look to the Saudis...they seem to keep criminal behavior in check. I like your thinking.

Saudi Arabia is a whole different kettle of fish. Whereas Singapore is quite similar to the west. Well apart from the pandering to criminals. I wonder how that has worked out for them in comparison to lets say LA. Just the other day I heard someone was shot in the head driving down a freeway there. I saw it in a liberal Australian newspaper.

Yep. Forensics have determined that the bullet was fired from a liberal.

[Heracles 417]

We had the exactly same moral panic news stories in the UK about kids being "influenced" by movies or video games to commit heinous deeds, yet all share the same lack of substance. People want to find things to blame for the ####### that goes wrong - it doesnt' mean that everything can be boiled down to a simple case of cause and effect of external factors.

The Jamie Bulger case in the UK became about that - after the BBC showed a selection of "video nasties" in its reporting - though there was no proof that the kids had actually watched any of the videos shown. Didn't stop those specific movies being taken off the shelves in UK stores. Of course both those kids came from pretty deprived, abusive backgrounds - but we'd rather focus on the stuff they may or may not have watched, rather than the reality - that a mixture of factors caused the aberrent behaviour that lead to that crime.

Outside of the X-Files, people generally don't watch a movie or a TV show and then spontaneously and inexplicably go out and commit violent acts.

I am certain though that kids in the UK do not have as easy access to such horrific films as they do here. If so many kids did not shoot up places every few months I too would be saying this is just an isolated incident.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Good parenting is in fact teaching a child to channel these emotions properly allowing them to express feelings so that they don't become bottled up and become the basis of psychosis while also ensuring that these expressions don't cross unacceptable boundaries and are appropriate to the causes.

Give me a break. Their emotions. Funny how thousands of generation prior to them didn't have all of this pandering BS about their emotions and did just fine. Maybe you have touched another issue such as the babying of these kids. Baby of kids who are already too big for their boots.

Parents of the last thousand generations didn't care about their kids emotional well-being?

I'm sorry - but that statement is just silly

I might as well say that people today are angrier than they were years ago.

[Peikko 1,575]

Again, you talk as though no children in the past suffered because of problems that stemmed from emotional trauma or lashed out at others when they couldn't cope with their own emotional baggage that they hadn't learned to deal with which is again more bullshite.

[Traviesa 0]

I just don't remember all this emotional stuff from when I was a kid. Maybe it was just me but I don't remember a huge wide range of emotions at age 9 and if I did have them I just sort of dealt with them.

[Heracles 417]

Yep. Forensics have determined that the bullet was fired from a liberal.

No. This was an example of an liberal Australian paper joking on the crime here.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

We had the exactly same moral panic news stories in the UK about kids being "influenced" by movies or video games to commit heinous deeds, yet all share the same lack of substance. People want to find things to blame for the ####### that goes wrong - it doesnt' mean that everything can be boiled down to a simple case of cause and effect of external factors.

The Jamie Bulger case in the UK became about that - after the BBC showed a selection of "video nasties" in its reporting - though there was no proof that the kids had actually watched any of the videos shown. Didn't stop those specific movies being taken off the shelves in UK stores. Of course both those kids came from pretty deprived, abusive backgrounds - but we'd rather focus on the stuff they may or may not have watched, rather than the reality - that a mixture of factors caused the aberrent behaviour that lead to that crime.

Outside of the X-Files, people generally don't watch a movie or a TV show and then spontaneously and inexplicably go out and commit violent acts.

I am certain though that kids in the UK do not have as easy access to such horrific films as they do here. If so many kids did not shoot up places every few months I too would be saying this is just an isolated incident.

How are you certain? The UK has exactly the same video games, movies and TV shows that we have here - including instant access via the internet and digital TV packages. Terrestrial TV has a 9 O'Clock watershed - but that doesn't apply to Cable.

[Heracles 417]

Again, you talk as though no children in the past suffered because of problems that stemmed from emotional trauma or lashed out at others when they couldn't cope with their own emotional baggage that they hadn't learned to deal with which is again more bullshite.

BS yourself. Kids lived through the depression and came out just fine. They where told to pull up their boot straps as life was tough. Many had their parents die at a young age and had to do it all themselves.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Yep. Forensics have determined that the bullet was fired from a liberal.

No. This was an example of an liberal Australian paper joking on the crime here.

...which you believe that crime is a result of liberal parenting.

[Heracles 417]

...which you believe that crime is a result of liberal parenting.

No. The point was actually off topic. I was just joking on you that it was a liberal paper posting the story in an ha ha look at America kind of way.

Edited April 1, 2008 by Boo-Yah!

[one...two...tree 2,762]

...which you believe that crime is a result of liberal parenting.

No. The point was actually off topic. I was just joking on you that it was a liberal paper posting the story in an ha ha look at America kind of way.

Funny American liberals...those liberal Australians must be saying.

[Heracles 417]

...which you believe that crime is a result of liberal parenting.

No. The point was actually off topic. I was just joking on you that it was a liberal paper posting the story in an ha ha look at America kind of way.

Funny American liberals...those liberal Australians must be saying.

Well 'I' do find people with left wing views abroad are not really a fan of America. I am constantly defending the US in many battles with them. The easiest way to get into an argument when I meet a liberal abroad is to say I live in America. It goes downhill from there. Especially in Europe.

Edited April 1, 2008 by Boo-Yah!

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

...which you believe that crime is a result of liberal parenting.

No. The point was actually off topic. I was just joking on you that it was a liberal paper posting the story in an ha ha look at America kind of way.

Funny American liberals...those liberal Australians must be saying.

Well 'I' do find people with left wing views abroad are not really a fan of America. I am constantly defending the US in many battles with them. The easiest way to get into an argument when I meet a liberal abroad is to say I live in America. It goes downhill from there. Especially in Europe.

Do the Liberals you meet abroad have armbands and T-Shirts denoting them as such?

[Peikko 1,575]

Again, you talk as though no children in the past suffered because of problems that stemmed from emotional trauma or lashed out at others when they couldn't cope with their own emotional baggage that they hadn't learned to deal with which is again more bullshite.

BS yourself. Kids lived through the depression and came out just fine. They where told to pull up their boot straps as life was tough. Many had their parents die at a young age and had to do it all themselves.

Are you seriously putting forward the notion that severe poverty and hardship leaves no time for emotions? That in fact during the depression no one suffered or turned to crime or lashed out at the world? They all just 'sucked it up' and lived a happy and contented life?