Homosexual Weddings

[Cassie 8]

Any book that says equal rights are wrong is not a book I want to be taking literally. I'd feel pretty uncomfortable not hating gay people but being forced by my adherence to a book to wish them harm.

I can only tell you what I believe, I cannot speak for other Christians.

The Bible says not to practise homosexuality. The Bible DOES NOT, however, say that I am to hate or to wish homosexuals harm. I am not sure where you are getting that.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Denying equal rights is wishing harm. IMO.

[Alex+R 0]

Any book that says equal rights are wrong is not a book I want to be taking literally. I'd feel pretty uncomfortable not hating gay people but being forced by my adherence to a book to wish them harm.

I can only tell you what I believe, I cannot speak for other Christians.

The Bible says not to practise homosexuality. The Bible DOES NOT, however, say that I am to hate or to wish homosexuals harm. I am not sure where you are getting that.

Wishing that they not receive access to civil rights is wishing them harm. You're saying they don't deserve equality.

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Does it prescribe punishment for men who have sex with men?

[Amby 490]

we can all have our beliefs and that's fine. but I think it's quite obvious that homosexuals are NOT treated the same as straight people. I think they should be. stop being scared and stop hating!

[one...two...tree 2,762]

For clarity sake... (even though some Catholics express a different view...unfortunately)

In the mid-1970s, the Catholic Church recognized the difference between being homosexual and engaging in homogenital (same-sex) acts. The Catholic Church holds that, as a state beyond a person's choice, being homosexual is not wrong or sinful in itself. But just as it is objectively wrong for unmarried heterosexuals to engage in sex, so too are homosexual acts considered to be wrong.

The Church also teaches understanding and compassion toward gay and lesbian people. In their 1976 statement, To Live in Christ Jesus, the American bishops wrote, "Some persons find themselves through no fault of their own to have a homosexual orientation. Homosexuals, like everyone else, should not suffer from prejudice against their basic human rights. They have a right to respect, friendship, and justice. They should have an active role in the Christian community.… The Christian community should provide them a special degree of pastoral understanding and care." In 1990, the U.S. National Conference of Catholic Bishops repeated this teaching in their instruction, Human Sexuality.

In 1997, the U.S. Catholic Bishops released a Pastoral Letter entitled Always Our Children: A Pastoral Message to Parents of Homosexual Children and Suggestions for Pastoral Ministers, directed to the parents of gay and lesbian Catholics. In this document, the bishops briefly addressed lesbians and gay men, saying, "In you God's love is revealed." The letter also encouraged families to remain connected when a member revealed his or her homosexuality, and called for the establishment of ministries sensitive to the needs of gay and lesbian Catholics and their families.

http://www.dignityusa.org/faq.html#2

[Amby 490]

this really amuses me http://www.lovegodsway.org/GayBands in a very #######? kinda way

Edited April 4, 2008 by Amber&Neil

[Toshtishtash 1]

Yes

[athena_ny 1]

yikes... Now husband and husband may kiss the groom?

Sorry, but that is very immature. And not funny. Why shouldn't homosexuals be entitled to the same rights as heterosexuals?

what kind of rights they're seeking for? they do have equal rights as heterosexuals the differences its ILLEGAL for man to man to get married.

are you ** or you have **'s blood line its why you're mad about it?

You are down right offensive. And while you are right, currently it is illegal for homosexuals to marry, that doesn't mean that the law is right. It was once illegal for women and black people to vote. Laws change. And they should. Its unfortunate that so many are so intolerant of someone who is different from them. So much so that you unnecessarily quetion another's sexuality for being tolerant. I find bigotry like that which you have expressed to be extremely offensice. I actually pity somone like you.

being a woman....and listening to other women defense homosexual lifestyle....it hurts...we should be the one fighting for the preservation fo the family as we grew up to know it.....but because in life its easier to take the popular position...afraid of being called names such as bigot and homopheobic.....well call all the names you want .../

this idea of everyone should have the right to do as they please....its my personal right...my civil right....is nonsense...

There comes a point where extremist just like all the gays and gay sympathiers need to be control....not exterminated...not killed or lynch but potrayed for what u all are "freaks of nature", "Scourn of Society" ....Deviance of the State.....there is nothing natural about two men smelling of #### after sex......

I need to leave this post...bcuz i am getting to emotional about so many people supporting this lifestyle.....all i have to say.....NOt in my space, or my house....I wont have a gay friend...and if i have a friend...later fouund out he or she is gay...they wont be my friend no more....this is what i stand for....its not popular but my moral will not have any less....

Are you kidding? The preservation of family? How do homosexuals threaten your life or your family? OH WAIT, they don't.

My parents raised me to live and let live, and to treat everyone the same. My God loves all his children, and I don't care if there's no "biblical basis" for this belief; the Bible has been altered so many times to shape the minds of the time the way the Church wanted them to be shaped that at this point it's nothing more than a good story. (And I'm Christian.)

Like RJ says, Jesus is weeping for your intolerance and hatred.

[athena_ny 1]

My stance used to be that we should allow civil partnerships but not 'marriage'. However, that has changed. It is, after all, only a word, and it's certainly not exclusive to religion. Unions between two people have existed long before religious connotations were bestowed upon them.

As for homosexuals destroying the sanctity of marriage - haven't heterosexuals done enough to that already, what with the divorce rate as it is?

Plus, what with wars raging and broken families, you think we'd do anything to encourage and honour love and commitment between two people.

well said!

...and oh, and the illegals marrying for papers.

bora you know I love you, but not all illegals get married only for papers.

[Mags 112]

My first husband had a twin brother. There were five boys in the family all together; the oldest; my husband and his twin; and then two more boys. All raised the same; all went to the same schools; all carried off to church each Sunday; a pretty normal life really except for their poverty.

My husband's twin brother was gay. He was a good looking guy - witty, very bright and kind hearted. He moved away when he was old enough to do so in order to live his life without embarrassing his parents.

In 1990 he came down with 'pneumonia'. When all the brothers got to Florida, it was revealed the pneumonia was really AIDS.

He died about a year later. At home, in his mothers arms.

His father never really accepted the disease or the lifestyle that had led to it. My BIL's 'gayness' probably had less to do with his contraction of the disease than did his use of drugs. But no one turned their back on him, not even his Dad. Neither of the parents really wanted people in town to know the 'truth', but they took him in and nursed him.

The dual hypocrisy and sheer love in the situation was sad. All because of social taboos.

Don't stand behind the cross and tell me you would turn your back on your child because of a disease.

When you do, I hear Jesus weeping.

I think that's just about the best post I've ever read.

[rebeccajo 14]

My first husband had a twin brother. There were five boys in the family all together; the oldest; my husband and his twin; and then two more boys. All raised the same; all went to the same schools; all carried off to church each Sunday; a pretty normal life really except for their poverty.

My husband's twin brother was gay. He was a good looking guy - witty, very bright and kind hearted. He moved away when he was old enough to do so in order to live his life without embarrassing his parents.

In 1990 he came down with 'pneumonia'. When all the brothers got to Florida, it was revealed the pneumonia was really AIDS.

He died about a year later. At home, in his mothers arms.

His father never really accepted the disease or the lifestyle that had led to it. My BIL's 'gayness' probably had less to do with his contraction of the disease than did his use of drugs. But no one turned their back on him, not even his Dad. Neither of the parents really wanted people in town to know the 'truth', but they took him in and nursed him.

The dual hypocrisy and sheer love in the situation was sad. All because of social taboos.

Don't stand behind the cross and tell me you would turn your back on your child because of a disease.

When you do, I hear Jesus weeping.

I think that's just about the best post I've ever read.

Thanks.

[mawilson 2,133]

bora you know I love you, but not all illegals get married only for papers.

Not to mention the fact that illegals cannot get married for papers. One cannot adjust status if they had no legal status to begin with.

[athena_ny 1]

bora you know I love you, but not all illegals get married only for papers.

Not to mention the fact that illegals cannot get married for papers. One cannot adjust status if they had no legal status to begin with.

ya pues, but if they entered on a visa, and fell out of status, they can.

but yeah, if it's an EWI, back to the home country with waivers in tow.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

My first husband had a twin brother. There were five boys in the family all together; the oldest; my husband and his twin; and then two more boys. All raised the same; all went to the same schools; all carried off to church each Sunday; a pretty normal life really except for their poverty.

My husband's twin brother was gay. He was a good looking guy - witty, very bright and kind hearted. He moved away when he was old enough to do so in order to live his life without embarrassing his parents.

In 1990 he came down with 'pneumonia'. When all the brothers got to Florida, it was revealed the pneumonia was really AIDS.

He died about a year later. At home, in his mothers arms.

His father never really accepted the disease or the lifestyle that had led to it. My BIL's 'gayness' probably had less to do with his contraction of the disease than did his use of drugs. But no one turned their back on him, not even his Dad. Neither of the parents really wanted people in town to know the 'truth', but they took him in and nursed him.

The dual hypocrisy and sheer love in the situation was sad. All because of social taboos.

Don't stand behind the cross and tell me you would turn your back on your child because of a disease.

When you do, I hear Jesus weeping.

Sister becca, you are a loving caring person. Indeed, one of the best posts ever.