ruling against FBI name checks

[belinda63 3,038]

I could find very little information but here is the long and short of it.

The U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania agreed. In Mocanu, et al. v. Mueller, et al., the Court found that "USCIS' use of the FBI name check program has never been authorized by statute or regulation." The court added that continuing to require the checks is "improper because of the unreasonable delays it has caused in the adjudication of Plaintiffs' applications for naturalization."

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2008/0...ame_checks.html

[Nutty 2]

One small victory!!!!!

Karate chop!!! Take that, USCIS!!!

I want to see more class action suits!!!

[Krikit 1,164]

The thing that bugs me is that we've already had our FBI namechecks during the visa and AOS process; we've already had our FBI namechecks during the removal of conditions process; and now they want another FBI namecheck for naturalization. Can they not just put a little sticky in our files saying we were cleared up until suchandsuch a date and they only need to check back a year? Sheesh.

( And I agree with Nutty. )

[Nutty 2]

It's going to be my new tagline!!!

[sparkofcreation 0]

The thing that bugs me is that we've already had our FBI namechecks during the visa and AOS process; we've already had our FBI namechecks during the removal of conditions process; and now they want another FBI namecheck for naturalization. Can they not just put a little sticky in our files saying we were cleared up until suchandsuch a date and they only need to check back a year? Sheesh.

I work for the federal government, and our contractors get their fingerprints run every two years. We were just discussing today how dumb it is.

[abrazer07 0]

The thing that bugs me is that we've already had our FBI namechecks during the visa and AOS process; we've already had our FBI namechecks during the removal of conditions process; and now they want another FBI namecheck for naturalization. Can they not just put a little sticky in our files saying we were cleared up until suchandsuch a date and they only need to check back a year? Sheesh.

( And I agree with Nutty. )

Nice reply Krikit .I cdnt just avoid from writing this is a total fun going on .Though i am still going to start the AOS process but from what i read and researched this is a total mock .I have listed the mocks below :

a)FBI namechecks during the visa and AOS process ( as Krikit said )

b)FBI namechecks during the removal of conditions process ( as Krikit said )

c)FBI namecheck for naturalization

[i can understand that they want to update that the person has conducted some serious offences or not in the meantime, thats why so many name checks and also for the terrorists thing. Yes as Krikit suggested they can do it after every year !! But then why do they take so long .From what i read here its taking years almost for people who are stuck in the namecheck ]

Another big funny thing is as follows:

D) While people go to their individual US consulates for any sort of VISA there is a FBI namecheck thing run in the software with which the Consulate Officers work.Now if a persons name is put in and if it matches with someones whom FBI is searching for , the name wd get locked and the software wont let the officer proceed with the person.And with hell that clearing process takes 5-6 months .Though the CO knows that the person at the interview is honest and has no connection with it , he is helpless as the system is like that.

Why isnt there any system of finger print matching or photograph matching ......................and why dnt FBI upload the accused person`s fingerprint into the software thus it can be verified at the spot if the person at the interview is the same person or not......To the contrary they keep on taking your fingerprints at differnt point of time.It has also been upgraded to four fingers from index ones !!!!!

Whats ur views VJ ers ????

Dnt really know what to say ......... Hope my thing goes on smoothly and i not stuck anyway ..................

Edited April 3, 2008 by abrazer07

[abrazer07 0]

anyways i just shere is some good news at post

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=119701

USCIS and FBI Release Joint Plan to Eliminate Backlog of FBI Name Checks

Partnership Establishes Series of Milestones To Complete Checks

[athena_ny 1]

The thing that bugs me is that we've already had our FBI namechecks during the visa and AOS process; we've already had our FBI namechecks during the removal of conditions process; and now they want another FBI namecheck for naturalization. Can they not just put a little sticky in our files saying we were cleared up until suchandsuch a date and they only need to check back a year? Sheesh.

( And I agree with Nutty. )

Nice reply Krikit .I cdnt just avoid from writing this is a total fun going on .Though i am still going to start the AOS process but from what i read and researched this is a total mock .I have listed the mocks below :

a)FBI namechecks during the visa and AOS process ( as Krikit said )

b)FBI namechecks during the removal of conditions process ( as Krikit said )

c)FBI namecheck for naturalization

[i can understand that they want to update that the person has conducted some serious offences or not in the meantime, thats why so many name checks and also for the terrorists thing. Yes as Krikit suggested they can do it after every year !! But then why do they take so long .From what i read here its taking years almost for people who are stuck in the namecheck ]

Another big funny thing is as follows:

D) While people go to their individual US consulates for any sort of VISA there is a FBI namecheck thing run in the software with which the Consulate Officers work.Now if a persons name is put in and if it matches with someones whom FBI is searching for , the name wd get locked and the software wont let the officer proceed with the person.And with hell that clearing process takes 5-6 months .Though the CO knows that the person at the interview is honest and has no connection with it , he is helpless as the system is like that.

Why isnt there any system of finger print matching or photograph matching ......................and why dnt FBI upload the accused person`s fingerprint into the software thus it can be verified at the spot if the person at the interview is the same person or not......To the contrary they keep on taking your fingerprints at differnt point of time.It has also been upgraded to four fingers from index ones !!!!!

Whats ur views VJ ers ????

Dnt really know what to say ......... Hope my thing goes on smoothly and i not stuck anyway ..................

Aren't you adjusting from a B visa?

In that case, FBI namcheck is wholly appropriate.

[abrazer07 0]

The thing that bugs me is that we've already had our FBI namechecks during the visa and AOS process; we've already had our FBI namechecks during the removal of conditions process; and now they want another FBI namecheck for naturalization. Can they not just put a little sticky in our files saying we were cleared up until suchandsuch a date and they only need to check back a year? Sheesh.

( And I agree with Nutty. )

Nice reply Krikit .I cdnt just avoid from writing this is a total fun going on .Though i am still going to start the AOS process but from what i read and researched this is a total mock .I have listed the mocks below :

a)FBI namechecks during the visa and AOS process ( as Krikit said )

b)FBI namechecks during the removal of conditions process ( as Krikit said )

c)FBI namecheck for naturalization

[i can understand that they want to update that the person has conducted some serious offences or not in the meantime, thats why so many name checks and also for the terrorists thing. Yes as Krikit suggested they can do it after every year !! But then why do they take so long .From what i read here its taking years almost for people who are stuck in the namecheck ]

Another big funny thing is as follows:

D) While people go to their individual US consulates for any sort of VISA there is a FBI namecheck thing run in the software with which the Consulate Officers work.Now if a persons name is put in and if it matches with someones whom FBI is searching for , the name wd get locked and the software wont let the officer proceed with the person.And with hell that clearing process takes 5-6 months .Though the CO knows that the person at the interview is honest and has no connection with it , he is helpless as the system is like that.

Why isnt there any system of finger print matching or photograph matching ......................and why dnt FBI upload the accused person`s fingerprint into the software thus it can be verified at the spot if the person at the interview is the same person or not......To the contrary they keep on taking your fingerprints at differnt point of time.It has also been upgraded to four fingers from index ones !!!!!

Whats ur views VJ ers ????

Dnt really know what to say ......... Hope my thing goes on smoothly and i not stuck anyway ..................

Aren't you adjusting from a B visa?

In that case, FBI namcheck is wholly appropriate.

I know that .....and of curse its appropriate .............. I never said its not needed. FBI namecheck is a really good thing and it shd be made for the security of USA .........we are only discussing here the possible changes and flaws in the system. Its nothing personal here.