MENA-One Visa Journey For the Book

[nana_356 0]

  wahrania said:

  nana_356 said:

Wharania, it isnt fair to say "they" There are many good hearted MENA, with open minds and open hearts. I have read many of your posts, and you sound like such a negative person. My goodness! Every culture has its good and bad. I am sharing my personal experience because I am also a woman that wants what many other woman on this forum want, family,companionship and happiness. So I decided to dangerously open myself up to critisizem, but also to questions. There are not many Middle eastern woman that will openly speak on this, so I am

I did not post my comment for people catogorize all arabs as american hating, green card sucking vultures!

YOU JUST SAID YOUR COUSIN VICTIMISED AN AMERICAN AND YOUR FAMILY WAS IN ON IT>>>

WHAT?

I am negative?

No one says all people are like this...but you have just laid out something that a member of your family did to an American.Where is the outrage?

This is why there is hellish APs for innocent people and your cousin should be deported.Shame on the people in your family that advocated this garbage and get off your hypocritical high horse...Your family victimised an American and your cousin commited a crime.

Like I said I was 9, what were you doing when you were 9?? I was playing with my barbies. And like I said guilty by association. And yes I do agree that he should be deported, but what he did has nothing to do with me, so how am I a hypocrit??? please explain

Edited March 25, 2008 by nana_356

[brnidokiegurl 1]

not yet but i think he got the jest of the story, he goes OOOOOMMMMMMMMMMGGGGGGG if anything now i would think he thinks american women are very mean and u dont mess with them and maybe he will pass the word to the others

[nana_356 0]

I am taking some of the other members advice, and ignoring wahrania, where there is wahrania there is drama!

So if any of you ladies (not wahrania) have any questions in regards to anything please fell free to ask!

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

  nana_356 said:

I am taking some of the other members advice, and ignoring wahrania, where there is wahrania there is drama!

So if any of you ladies (not wahrania) have any questions in regards to anything please fell free to ask!

yeah I invented your cousins antics....please avoid me...I coached your cousin .....your family listened to me in standing by and allowing it

  brnidokiegurl said:

not yet but i think he got the jest of the story, he goes OOOOOMMMMMMMMMMGGGGGGG if anything now i would think he thinks american women are very mean and u dont mess with them and maybe he will pass the word to the others

actually Lorena was south american and her husband was american LOL

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

  wahrania said:

You have not seen the ugly side of this.Just jackie and I have.....voices of dissent are NECESSARY

This is incorrect. We have more than 2 members who have had ugly experiences -- some of them have told their stories on this forum.

However, neither Jackie nor the others are spending an inordinate amount of time weighing in with page after page of dire, emotionally overwrought "warnings" about fraud and other criminal behavior every single time a member posts about having doubts or problems.

You certainly have a right to your opinion. But much of it seems to be "baggage" from your own previous relationship that ended unhappily. If you keep dragging it around with you like this, it's bound to have a very negative effect on your current relationship -- your husband is going to pick up on your vibes that this may be the way you feel about him. Even your children are likely to pick up on this, and they are half Arab themselves -- this could be very destructive to them.

I'm very sorry that you had to go through such a heartbreaking experience -- I read your accounts of what happened, and it was truly tragic.

But you are projecting all of that pain and anger onto other people's relationships. Maybe it's a defense mechanism -- to reassure yourself that you are not alone; that many people are about to get used and abused just like you did. I just think you are taking it wayyyyyyyy too far. Have you considered seeing a therapist to help you work through your hurt and resentment ? This kind of negative emotion isn't good for you or your baby.

-MK

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

  brnidokiegurl said:

not yet but i think he got the jest of the story, he goes OOOOOMMMMMMMMMMGGGGGGG if anything now i would think he thinks american women are very mean and u dont mess with them and maybe he will pass the word to the others

[SaadBell 0]

The first book my husband ever saw me read was The Serial Killer Files. Nice big book, lots of pictures, I remember him looking at the book, and said, you really do love to read this stuff. He just hasn't been groomed on the finer works of true crime. I also love horror books, I will get him to read that soon also. Evil runs both ways, what about the poor guy that marries for love, and gets killed for insurance money? If you read any number of books, you will be so scared you would not even leave your home, much less marry.

[a1angied 0]

WOW WOM that was very power and very well stated. God have definetly given you a way with words to say the truth in kindness but directly to the point. I agree with what you have voiced 100%!

[nana_356 0]

  wife_of_mahmoud said:

  wahrania said:

You have not seen the ugly side of this.Just jackie and I have.....voices of dissent are NECESSARY

This is incorrect. We have more than 2 members who have had ugly experiences -- some of them have told their stories on this forum.

However, neither Jackie nor the others are spending an inordinate amount of time weighing in with page after page of dire, emotionally overwrought "warnings" about fraud and other criminal behavior every single time a member posts about having doubts or problems.

You certainly have a right to your opinion. But much of it seems to be "baggage" from your own previous relationship that ended unhappily. If you keep dragging it around with you like this, it's bound to have a very negative effect on your current relationship -- your husband is going to pick up on your vibes that this may be the way you feel about him. Even your children are likely to pick up on this, and they are half Arab themselves -- this could be very destructive to them.

I'm very sorry that you had to go through such a heartbreaking experience -- I read your accounts of what happened, and it was truly tragic.

But you are projecting all of that pain and anger onto other people's relationships. Maybe it's a defense mechanism -- to reassure yourself that you are not alone; that many people are about to get used and abused just like you did. I just think you are taking it wayyyyyyyy too far. Have you considered seeing a therapist to help you work through your hurt and resentment ? This kind of negative emotion isn't good for you or your baby.

-MK

Well said!!

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

  wife_of_mahmoud said:

  wahrania said:

You have not seen the ugly side of this.Just jackie and I have.....voices of dissent are NECESSARY

This is incorrect. We have more than 2 members who have had ugly experiences -- some of them have told their stories on this forum.

However, neither Jackie nor the others are spending an inordinate amount of time weighing in with page after page of dire, emotionally overwrought "warnings" about fraud and other criminal behavior every single time a member posts about having doubts or problems.

You certainly have a right to your opinion. But much of it seems to be "baggage" from your own previous relationship that ended unhappily. If you keep dragging it around with you like this, it's bound to have a very negative effect on your current relationship -- your husband is going to pick up on your vibes that this may be the way you feel about him. Even your children are likely to pick up on this, and they are half Arab themselves -- this could be very destructive to them.

I'm very sorry that you had to go through such a heartbreaking experience -- I read your accounts of what happened, and it was truly tragic.

But you are projecting all of that pain and anger onto other people's relationships. Maybe it's a defense mechanism -- to reassure yourself that you are not alone; that many people are about to get used and abused just like you did. I just think you are taking it wayyyyyyyy too far. Have you considered seeing a therapist to help you work through your hurt and resentment ? This kind of negative emotion isn't good for you or your baby.

-MK

You are right...but I just flip when I see accounts of ####### like this nana person and the family...just la di da......and doing this horrific #######..Ill try to keep my opinions to myself

[brnidokiegurl 1]

  wahrania said:

  nana_356 said:

I am taking some of the other members advice, and ignoring wahrania, where there is wahrania there is drama!

So if any of you ladies (not wahrania) have any questions in regards to anything please fell free to ask!

yeah I invented your cousins antics....please avoid me...I coached your cousin .....your family listened to me in standing by and allowing it

  brnidokiegurl said:

not yet but i think he got the jest of the story, he goes OOOOOMMMMMMMMMMGGGGGGG if anything now i would think he thinks american women are very mean and u dont mess with them and maybe he will pass the word to the others

actually Lorena was south american and her husband was american LOL

that doesnt enter into it hes a man and shes a woman he could have come from anywhere and so could she,

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

  nana_356 said:

  wife_of_mahmoud said:

  wahrania said:

You have not seen the ugly side of this.Just jackie and I have.....voices of dissent are NECESSARY

This is incorrect. We have more than 2 members who have had ugly experiences -- some of them have told their stories on this forum.

However, neither Jackie nor the others are spending an inordinate amount of time weighing in with page after page of dire, emotionally overwrought "warnings" about fraud and other criminal behavior every single time a member posts about having doubts or problems.

You certainly have a right to your opinion. But much of it seems to be "baggage" from your own previous relationship that ended unhappily. If you keep dragging it around with you like this, it's bound to have a very negative effect on your current relationship -- your husband is going to pick up on your vibes that this may be the way you feel about him. Even your children are likely to pick up on this, and they are half Arab themselves -- this could be very destructive to them.

I'm very sorry that you had to go through such a heartbreaking experience -- I read your accounts of what happened, and it was truly tragic.

But you are projecting all of that pain and anger onto other people's relationships. Maybe it's a defense mechanism -- to reassure yourself that you are not alone; that many people are about to get used and abused just like you did. I just think you are taking it wayyyyyyyy too far. Have you considered seeing a therapist to help you work through your hurt and resentment ? This kind of negative emotion isn't good for you or your baby.

-MK

Well said!!Oh shut up Nana...You dont even condemn your family for what they did

  brnidokiegurl said:

  wahrania said:

  nana_356 said:

I am taking some of the other members advice, and ignoring wahrania, where there is wahrania there is drama!

So if any of you ladies (not wahrania) have any questions in regards to anything please fell free to ask!

yeah I invented your cousins antics....please avoid me...I coached your cousin .....your family listened to me in standing by and allowing it

  brnidokiegurl said:

not yet but i think he got the jest of the story, he goes OOOOOMMMMMMMMMMGGGGGGG if anything now i would think he thinks american women are very mean and u dont mess with them and maybe he will pass the word to the others

actually Lorena was south american and her husband was american LOL

that doesnt enter into it hes a man and shes a woman he could have come from anywhere and so could she,

[brnidokiegurl 1]

Since i joined there have been others, wont say many but a few that have gone thru bad times, we are not in their houses so we dont know the situation, was it because of where he came from, did she change, did she change her mind maybe she abused him, who knows, even then we just usually hear one side of a two sided life

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

  wife_of_mahmoud said:

  wahrania said:

You have not seen the ugly side of this.Just jackie and I have.....voices of dissent are NECESSARY

This is incorrect. We have more than 2 members who have had ugly experiences -- some of them have told their stories on this forum.

However, neither Jackie nor the others are spending an inordinate amount of time weighing in with page after page of dire, emotionally overwrought "warnings" about fraud and other criminal behavior every single time a member posts about having doubts or problems.

You certainly have a right to your opinion. But much of it seems to be "baggage" from your own previous relationship that ended unhappily. If you keep dragging it around with you like this, it's bound to have a very negative effect on your current relationship -- your husband is going to pick up on your vibes that this may be the way you feel about him. Even your children are likely to pick up on this, and they are half Arab themselves -- this could be very destructive to them.

I'm very sorry that you had to go through such a heartbreaking experience -- I read your accounts of what happened, and it was truly tragic.

But you are projecting all of that pain and anger onto other people's relationships. Maybe it's a defense mechanism -- to reassure yourself that you are not alone; that many people are about to get used and abused just like you did. I just think you are taking it wayyyyyyyy too far. Have you considered seeing a therapist to help you work through your hurt and resentment ? This kind of negative emotion isn't good for you or your baby.

-MK

wom...I know you are right.......But come on...read nana's post .Doesn't some of these peoples cavalier attitude towards greecard fraud and towards americans piss anyone else off?I just need to be quiet...Sorry....I just get so damned pissed off

[brnidokiegurl 1]

as for the video, got to love american women, i can see why all foreign men are flocking to america for the cards, with examples of life so readily avail as this, im sure most would want to give up their women of their country for this woman independent life style (not)