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[Ban Hammer 13,590]

If she cannot talk here about her fears,where can she talk?

good question.

[ya falaha! 0]

I think we've all had fears...rational or irrational. I really think this is a case of too much time to think. Your own mind can be your worst enemy. Trust me, mine has been on occasion.

[brnidokiegurl 0]

If she cannot talk here about her fears,where can she talk?

good question.

or was this question directed to wahrania because i was wondering the same

[morocco4ever 63]

I think we've all had fears...rational or irrational. I really think this is a case of too much time to think. Your own mind can be your worst enemy. Trust me, mine has been on occasion.

Sadly discussing your fears here has become scary. We have people suggesting that something is wrong with her and we have people telling her that her fears are based on facts. She came here for help and it seems too many people are giving her advise based on the other peoples stories. This is not someone elses story, this is hers, and she needs to sort out what is fact, what is caused stories about other peoples situations, and what is based on ill given advise. What she needs is the tools to decide for herself.

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

I think we've all had fears...rational or irrational. I really think this is a case of too much time to think. Your own mind can be your worst enemy. Trust me, mine has been on occasion.

Sadly discussing your fears here has become scary. We have people suggesting that something is wrong with her and we have people telling her that her fears are based on facts. She came here for help and it seems too many people are giving her advise based on the other peoples stories. This is not someone elses story, this is hers, and she needs to sort out what is fact, what is caused stories about other peoples situations, and what is based on ill given advise. What she needs is the tools to decide for herself.

people need to ask questions freely.....its the surpression of opinions that causes greater harm

[brnidokiegurl 0]

also this is not entirely just her story i believe to some extent it is all of our stories or anyones story really that is comtemplateing marriage,we each have to do our own experiencing, im sure not going to base to much on something from a chat room, that someone elses friend told someone else about a friend they knew 5 years ago, what works for one may not the other and our minds can put enough questions and doubts without someone else adding to it. We have all heard the bad stories and on the other hand we have heard the good stories, i think i will choose to go with the good thoughts to strive for.

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

also this is not entirely just her story i believe to some extent it is all of our stories or anyones story really that is comtemplateing marriage,we each have to do our own experiencing, im sure not going to base to much on something from a chat room, that someone elses friend told someone else about a friend they knew 5 years ago, what works for one may not the other and our minds can put enough questions and doubts without someone else adding to it. We have all heard the bad stories and on the other hand we have heard the good stories, i think i will choose to go with the good thoughts to strive for.

I think Olivia appreciates the input and this forum........i know I do

[brnidokiegurl 0]

We are all different, we each do the best we can to get thru this

[nana_356 0]

Please no one bash me, but I must admit that I am guilty by association, my cousin wanted to avoid the militiary so he came to the US and used a woman for green card. I was only 9 at the time, but I remember that the signs were there she was so in love that she ignored it. My family knew what he was doing, and it was like nothing to them, they played along with. So yes this is common.

Follow your hearts ladys, us woman have amazing instincts, but sometimes we allow our hearts to over-ride our instincts. If it feels wrong-it propably is.

[Jenn! 918]

Please no one bash me, but I must admit that I am guilty by association, my cousin wanted to avoid the militiary so he came to the US and used a woman for green card. I was only 9 at the time, but I remember that the signs were there she was so in love that she ignored it. My family knew what he was doing, and it was like nothing to them, they played along with. So yes this is common.

Follow your hearts ladys, us woman have amazing instincts, but sometimes we allow our hearts to over-ride our instincts. If it feels wrong-it propably is.

I'm interested to hear how your family feels about your current relationship given their prior involvement in your cousin's green card fraud.

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

Please no one bash me, but I must admit that I am guilty by association, my cousin wanted to avoid the militiary so he came to the US and used a woman for green card. I was only 9 at the time, but I remember that the signs were there she was so in love that she ignored it. My family knew what he was doing, and it was like nothing to them, they played along with. So yes this is common.

Follow your hearts ladys, us woman have amazing instincts, but sometimes we allow our hearts to over-ride our instincts. If it feels wrong-it propably is.

shame on your family for being complicit in that

[morocco4ever 63]

I think we hear too much gloom and doom, and that everyone is being used for a green card. I highly doubt that she is totally unaware of this or she wouldn't be having this issue to begin with. I read over and over again from Wahrania that everyone is being used but her.

Olivia, yes it is a fact that some are used, but there are alot of people in real relationships. Don't judge your relationship on the over zealous opinions of gloom and doomers. Rather look at your relationship as it is.

I am married to a Moroccan, and have been now for over 3 years. We are in one of those relationships that everyone said was for a visa, and it is of the opinion here that most Moroccans on con artists.

My husband could very easily get up and leave me now. He could remain in the US and he could get his citizenship without any more assistance from me. He has friends and family that live here in the US, where to go isn't a barrier. So why, when he could have it all now, doesn't he leave me? Plain and simple, we are in love. If I had listened to what everyone had to say about my relationship I would have dumped his A$$ a long time ago. Instead I stepped back and looked at my relationship from a third party point of view. Is is an unusual union? Most definately! In all appearances would someone assume it was for a visa only? Certainly! So why didn't I run? I can see his love and dedication. I can see, after he has been here over a year that I always have been, and always will be his life. He has never shown me anything different. And from a third party point of view there is no doubt it is real.

This is what I am saying. It doesn't hurt to be aware of the possibilities, but don't let it rule your decisions. Don't let the opinions sway you to always believe the worst, find out for yourself.

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

Please no one bash me, but I must admit that I am guilty by association, my cousin wanted to avoid the militiary so he came to the US and used a woman for green card. I was only 9 at the time, but I remember that the signs were there she was so in love that she ignored it. My family knew what he was doing, and it was like nothing to them, they played along with. So yes this is common.

Follow your hearts ladys, us woman have amazing instincts, but sometimes we allow our hearts to over-ride our instincts. If it feels wrong-it propably is.

I'm interested to hear how your family feels about your current relationship given their prior involvement in your cousin's green card fraud.

jenn,they feel Americans arent human beings and put on thid planet to be used......

[nana_356 0]

Please no one bash me, but I must admit that I am guilty by association, my cousin wanted to avoid the militiary so he came to the US and used a woman for green card. I was only 9 at the time, but I remember that the signs were there she was so in love that she ignored it. My family knew what he was doing, and it was like nothing to them, they played along with. So yes this is common.

Follow your hearts ladys, us woman have amazing instincts, but sometimes we allow our hearts to over-ride our instincts. If it feels wrong-it propably is.

I'm interested to hear how your family feels about your current relationship given their prior involvement in your cousin's green card fraud.

I am married to an african-american christian man, and I am pregnant, so my family pretty much dissowned me. Its very rare that a egyptian woman marry outside her race and religeon, so I am the black sheep pf the family.

And we were not in the US, when my cousin was doing this. He was here 11 years before we came.

Please no one bash me, but I must admit that I am guilty by association, my cousin wanted to avoid the militiary so he came to the US and used a woman for green card. I was only 9 at the time, but I remember that the signs were there she was so in love that she ignored it. My family knew what he was doing, and it was like nothing to them, they played along with. So yes this is common.

Follow your hearts ladys, us woman have amazing instincts, but sometimes we allow our hearts to over-ride our instincts. If it feels wrong-it propably is.

shame on your family for being complicit in that

I agree, its quite embarassing!

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

I think we hear too much gloom and doom, and that everyone is being used for a green card. I highly doubt that she is totally unaware of this or she wouldn't be having this issue to begin with. I read over and over again from Wahrania that everyone is being used but her.

Olivia, yes it is a fact that some are used, but there are alot of people in real relationships. Don't judge your relationship on the over zealous opinions of gloom and doomers. Rather look at your relationship as it is.

I am married to a Moroccan, and have been now for over 3 years. We are in one of those relationships that everyone said was for a visa, and it is of the opinion here that most Moroccans on con artists.

My husband could very easily get up and leave me now. He could remain in the US and he could get his citizenship without any more assistance from me. He has friends and family that live here in the US, where to go isn't a barrier. So why, when he could have it all now, doesn't he leave me? Plain and simple, we are in love. If I had listened to what everyone had to say about my relationship I would have dumped his A$$ a long time ago. Instead I stepped back and looked at my relationship from a third party point of view. Is is an unusual union? Most definately! In all appearances would someone assume it was for a visa only? Certainly! So why didn't I run? I can see his love and dedication. I can see, after he has been here over a year that I always have been, and always will be his life. He has never shown me anything different. And from a third party point of view there is no doubt it is real.

This is what I am saying. It doesn't hurt to be aware of the possibilities, but don't let it rule your decisions. Don't let the opinions sway you to always believe the worst, find out for yourself.

Morocco 4 ever...I was USED before..I was battered,threatened,drug by my hair and punched in the street in the face and have an order of protection STILL against a palestinian who brought women to my bed when I was at work and threatened to take equity from my house when I wouldnt AOS with him....You have not seen the ugly side of this.Just jackie and I have.....voices of dissent are NECESSARY