allright,sorry for being silly

[mox 298]

I totally agree with you mox.

We only used it last week for the first and only time.

It got to me when we saw folk using it after filing only in January.

We were obviously due around now which is why i guess we got approved so soon after calling.

Thanks for all the advice.

Really appreciated!

Yes...you're definitely outside the timeline. I'm sorry to see that. Hopefully it'll break loose for you soon.

Keep in mind the RFE trick is not actually needed.

Well...the only thing you really *need* are food, water, and shelter. You are correct, the RFE trick is not needed, and thousands and thousands of cases are processed without the filer ever even calling USCIS at all. Again, I'm not going to debate the RFE issue--I expect people will conduct themselves as responsible adults, and people need to educate themselves on how the process works before making a decision to call or not call.

[mox 298]

Not to mention that we have two posters in the other thread who have used the trick and they now find themselves in Administrative Review.

An adjudicator can move a file to any desk, you know. And it doesn't have to be the one you are hoping for.

I don't know that we can necessarily correlate the one action (calling the RFE line) to a result (administrative review). That would be a severe abuse of power, and probably a firing offense. I'm sure it occasionally happens, but I have to believe, on the whole, the adjudicators are more professional than that.

[Roselinda 5]

Not to mention that we have two posters in the other thread who have used the trick and they now find themselves in Administrative Review.

An adjudicator can move a file to any desk, you know. And it doesn't have to be the one you are hoping for.

I don't know that we can necessarily correlate the one action (calling the RFE line) to a result (administrative review). That would be a severe abuse of power, and probably a firing offense. I'm sure it occasionally happens, but I have to believe, on the whole, the adjudicators are more professional than that.

oh by the way mox thanks for the support.

and it hs come good for us already.

we were approved today!

we had no intention of abusing that line and i can totally appreciate the frustration folk that have genuine rfe's must be going through.

we left it as long as we could without calling at all.

and i dont want this to turn into another nasty debate like the previous one i read.

[mox 298]

oh by the way mox thanks for the support.

and it hs come good for us already.

we were approved today!

Ahh, sorry I missed that. Congratulations!

we had no intention of abusing that line and i can totally appreciate the frustration folk that have genuine rfe's must be going through.

we left it as long as we could without calling at all.

What I find interesting is that when people have reported that they were notified of an RFE, the people answering the RFE line would/could not tell them what their RFE was for, and told them to wait until it got to them in the mail. Which makes the RFE line mostly worthless anyway.

[B'sA 0]

- The OP filed on the last day of December at CSC. It is ***WAY*** to early for this poster to be calling the RFE line. Calling the RFE line now is a waste of everyone's time, and irresponsible.

The reason i 've put this question was that i wanted to know what's that all about.

Plus, my fiance would laugh if i told him to try to do this now.

No, i'm not getting despeeeerately crazy, i'm getting informed!

[mox 298]

- The OP filed on the last day of December at CSC. It is ***WAY*** to early for this poster to be calling the RFE line. Calling the RFE line now is a waste of everyone's time, and irresponsible.

The reason i 've put this question was that i wanted to know what's that all about.

Plus, my fiance would laugh if i told him to try to do this now.

No, i'm not getting despeeeerately crazy, i'm getting informed!

Ahhh...fair enough then. Apologies for my misunderstanding and jumping to conclusions.

Getting informed is what it's all about.

[rebeccajo 14]

Not to mention that we have two posters in the other thread who have used the trick and they now find themselves in Administrative Review.

An adjudicator can move a file to any desk, you know. And it doesn't have to be the one you are hoping for.

I don't know that we can necessarily correlate the one action (calling the RFE line) to a result (administrative review). That would be a severe abuse of power, and probably a firing offense. I'm sure it occasionally happens, but I have to believe, on the whole, the adjudicators are more professional than that.

The anecdotal evidence is right there in plain sight and could have nothing at all to do with 'professionalism'.

Whinging phone calls from petitioners, especially when they blather on and on about their relationship (as was reported in one of the accounts of one of the individuals who now finds themselves waiting longer) could raise the suspicions of the AO enough to send the file off for evaluation.

You can't disregard the evidence just because it's not to your liking.

[DA BOMB 1]

rebeccajo - you as a long time member and organizer of this forum, I find it immature and completely uncalled for the message you left in my inbox:

Are we going to have a discussion in public about the answers to the question on the I94W regarding convictions for the use of controlled substances?

You send this to me as if it's some secret and you threaten to expose me - trust me if I had any I wouldnt post them in public so yes, if you would like to discuss this then lets. All the prior conviction history for my husband past to present has been laid before the immigration officials - and he's sitting here with a greencard....oh.. and without an I-601. Is there anything else you would like to discuss in public?

[mox 298]

The anecdotal evidence is right there in plain sight and could have nothing at all to do with 'professionalism'.

Whinging phone calls from petitioners, especially when they blather on and on about their relationship (as was reported in one of the accounts of one of the individuals who now finds themselves waiting longer) could raise the suspicions of the AO enough to send the file off for evaluation.

But I think you have to agree that putting someone's case into administrative review because they called the RFE line would be a blatant abuse of power. If there is a culture of this type of behavior at USCIS, it is wrong. OTOH, if the conversation raises the suspicions of the officer, then yes I agree that would be a good reason for review. I don't know how often this happens, but hopefully not often. People say some silly things when they are emotionally charged, and I would hope the people answering the phones understand this.

You can't disregard the evidence just because it's not to your liking.

Agreed. But I'm not so sure we can learn a lot on a sample size of 2. If we are to use TBone's thread as a case study (probably not very scientific), I would argue that the vast majority of posters who tried the trick either reported failure to obtain any status, reported success (despite the fact that it sounded as if they'd already been approved anyway), or reported some kind of status.

Don't get me wrong, I'm completely agnostic on the point, and I actually agree with you much more than I disagree. But if we are to be scientific about this (as much as we can, anyway) and really look at all the anecdotal evidence, 2 administrative reviews out of however many reports of positive, negative, and neutral accounts, it's just not convincing enough to make that conclusion. The evidence may in fact exist, but I don't believe it's at a threshold where we can say with any certainty that calling the RFE line could result in administrative review, any more than we can say that calling the RFE line can help "shake" a petition loose.

[mox 298]

stuff completely off-topic and TOS-violating

I would like to know why

a) You are posting this in this thread, which has nothing to do with your case or your issue with rj, and

b) why you are posting the contents of a pm, which is against the TOS.

Whatever your beef with rj, take it somewhere else please.

Edited March 22, 2008 by mox

[rebeccajo 14]

Mox, Administrative Reviews at this stage of the process are not all that common.

Thus, IMO, a sample size of 2 (out of the number of people who report using the 'trick') gives me pause.

[rebeccajo 14]

stuff completely off-topic and TOS-violating

I would like to know why

a) You are posting this in this thread, which has nothing to do with your case or your issue with rj, and

B) why you are posting the contents of a pm, which is against the TOS.

Whatever your beef with rj, take it somewhere else please.

Mox, let it stand. We'll take the post back to the thread it comes out of, which is here:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...=115911&hl=

[mox 298]

Mox, let it stand. We'll take the post back to the thread it comes out of, which is here:

*pit bull trots back to his dog house with a sideways glance behind him*

(whistle if you need me. )

[rebeccajo 14]

Mox, let it stand. We'll take the post back to the thread it comes out of, which is here:

*pit bull trots back to his dog house with a sideways glance behind him*

(whistle if you need me. )

LOL. Sorry.

Just wanted you to know it doesn't personally bother me that she posted my PM. Even if it is a TOS violation.

[panamania79 2]

My question is: could anybody explain what's the RFE trick?

Thank you,guys!

You are not being silly at all.I've always wanted to know about the RFE trick also.