Pat Buchanan: Black Americans should be grateful we brought them over on slave ships!

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At some point it might be worth asking why noone, and I mean No-one, not-a-one is standing up to validate your statements.

For one thing they'd have a hard job actually actually figuring out what your argument is.

Quantas?

For one you mean Qantas. Understanding my argument. Maviwaro went on the offense from the first reply. The second someone says black and American on VJ it is all over. Unless of course there is praise for the two. PH takes gold though for ramming words and concepts I apparently believe in down my throat.

PS The two sentence posts of mine are a direct consequence of the BS posts made by others. For example, I think the last reasonable post from VJ Troll was 4 months ago.

Yes... I went greedily on the offense from the first reply. And it states in post #16:

" Like I've noticed before... assumming most VJers are probably NOT African Americans, its amazing how authoritative we become in race relations as it pertains to understanding the historical and realistic plight of others."

And then I also went on the offensive challenging your continued disgust for knowlege:

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QUOTE(Number 6 @ Mar 24 2008, 10:53 PM) *

QUOTE(Boo-Yah! @ Mar 24 2008, 10:51 PM) *

Last time I checked no Oprahs or Will Smiths came from Africa. Can anyone deny the resources and opportunities available to so many black Americans which so many people in various African nations can only dream of.

No. But noone can deny the existence of social inequalities either.

Yes. All too easy for someone in the NE east to blame slavery, lol, because there where so many plantations in the NE. Especially in Chicago. lol.

The first step to equality requires an effort on their behalf. Stop using history as a justification. Bill Cosby has the right idea but not everyone is listening. Easier to play the victim than take responsibility for one's circumstances.

How easy it is to be ignorant of history... or just ignore it. Either way, its not an excuse for judging what clearly you do not wish to understand.

Absolutely, lets make this go to 100... but do remove the first 4 pages since our friend can't be credited with those pages.

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You haven't answered a single question that's been posed to you in this thread - the deflections and deviations are the reason it is 47 pages, that and the offensive nature of the generalisations you have made.

Someone calling me an idiot, saying I am on a wild tangent, a brick wall, a racist, ignorant bla bla bla is hardly a question now is it.

Au contrarie mon amie... we've asked you to clarify and you confirm it. If it offends you then clarify. If it doesn't, like you also stated, then there's no need to tell others to "####" as you did before you changed the siggie. Or is that also now invisible type?

i can't believe this is still going on.

I am also very impressed with that observation brother... lol

i can't believe this is still going on.

There's a concerted push to get it to 50 pages.

Can we request this to Sticky status???

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There is absolutely no way on God's green earth that BY has an MA in Economics.

Yep. I recall that was the conclusion that several of us here had in a thread awhile back. Also, there's no way he could have made it through college science courses with his method of hypothesis.

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There is absolutely no way on God's green earth that BY has an MA in Economics. There is absolutely no way on God's green earth that BY is not fully involved in the beliefs he has spouted here. The difference between a racist and a non-racist is that a non-racist would never in a million years spew forth what BY has as a form of entertainment. That would be abhorrent to them/us.

and from an ivy league school might I add. Should I scan it and add it here for your approval? sure thing, I'll get right to it for you.

The fact still stands that basically no one spent half a minute asking what I actually said but jumped on a bandwagon and then started throwing out BS responses. Therefore in return you received BS responses. Simple as that. I also like how you copied that I love the KKK. You have to be smarter than that now. Maybe the sun down there is affecting your brain cells. I am not American or Canaaaaaaadian so that stigma of racism doesn't mean #### to me. Or maybe you falsely think I will cry if somebody calls me a racist. Which was the whole point of writing that in the first place. Last time I cried was 7 years ago.

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yeah this is a long one. i've been reading it for 2 days at work....coz thats when i have the most free time. you guys have been seriously cutting into my prep work for our trip thru POE, AOS, & EAD....i wanna read the AOS forum & check the guides but i can't stop coming here.

Dude, don't even waste your time reading. They make stupid posts so I give stupid responses back. They are too foolish to realize that I pull this #### every few months. I am surprised I have not been called a hate monger yet.

I would give anyone of these guys $1,000 each if they said half of this #### to my face. Make it $2,000. I would shove slavery and the history books up their ###.

100 isn't happening. I didn't expect this go to past 20.

I'm only at 19 pages

Make it $4k and your implied threat could actually be honored. Do remember 'your green card' is contingent upon having a clean criminal record. Nice to dislay overt signs of potential criminal behavior, since that can probably get you that Qantas flight home sooner. Then again, your overt self-delusion is also discounting the hard reality that people do know how to self-defend and some quite effectively.

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yah i know thats why when i see your on. i can't stop reading...looks like you picked up few new "buddies" in this one.

WOOOOO!!!!!!! 50

The lefties and I get along like a house on fire. Be careful of the big words they might throw at you if you disagree with them.

Come to think of it, the only useful thing that came out of their posts is that I now know what daft and ilk means.

Well if they are big words at least you have the potential to learn something new little buddy. It is the English language.

Lefties... lol.

I don't know, I think the crowd got bored a while back. Either Boo-hoo does believe the ####### he is peddling, in which case he is the worst sort of racist - one that can't see anything wrong with his views or he's simply winding up the round-about which is in the worst possible taste as he is using such an inflammetory topic to do so.

Suggesting that its all a joke is just an excuse to avoid dealing with the stuff he's saying, or being able to pull together the threads of a very disparate argument where he essentially has no point.

Especially when he's been called out on his poor-poor ability to analyse economic and census statistics, considering the pride he takes in his declared educational qualifications. I find that strange to say the least. Did he post these census statistics for a "joke"? I've got to say... I highly doubt it.

I must have missed the satirical irony in the "X% are not black. who cares".

I did however miss even the most basic analysis of the demographic data. Which I had to point out to him.

And I don't have an MA in Economics.

I think this is called denial brother 6.

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And then I also went on the offensive challenging your continued disgust for knowlege:

QUOTE(Boo-Yah! @ Mar 24 2008, 09:04 PM) *

QUOTE(Number 6 @ Mar 24 2008, 10:53 PM) *

QUOTE(Boo-Yah! @ Mar 24 2008, 10:51 PM) *

Last time I checked no Oprahs or Will Smiths came from Africa. Can anyone deny the resources and opportunities available to so many black Americans which so many people in various African nations can only dream of.

No. But noone can deny the existence of social inequalities either.

Yes. All too easy for someone in the NE east to blame slavery, lol, because there where so many plantations in the NE. Especially in Chicago. lol.

The first step to equality requires an effort on their behalf. Stop using history as a justification. Bill Cosby has the right idea but not everyone is listening. Easier to play the victim than take responsibility for one's circumstances.

How easy it is to be ignorant of history... or just ignore it. Either way, its not an excuse for judging what clearly you do not wish to understand.

Absolutely, lets make this go to 100... but do remove the first 4 pages since our friend can't be credited with those pages.

Or maybe I just don't care about African American history or their inequalities. Ever thought of that; As a scientist obtaining a PhD of course..

I am still trying to find where I was racist with what you just posted.

Edited March 27, 2008 by Boo-Yah!

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Are you suggesting that you didn't insinuate that people from some cultures can't organise a piss up in a brewery? Are you suggesting that it wasn't you who insinuated that African Americans are stupid for not getting on boats back to their homeland when they were forced to ride at the back of buses or use black only fountains? Are you suggesting that you are not the one who insinuated that African Americans are more likely to have criminal tendancies? Are you suggesting that you are not the one who insinuated that African Americans use the evils done to their ancestors to extort from other Americans?

Ram things down your throat? I think not, I think you get the gold for back peddling and making insinuations that even embaress you when you see them in the stark light of reality.

I don't back peddle. If I thought something of a race I would say it wouldn't in. I just like to see you guys jump on a "tangent" and talk #######. Have I ever mentioned my wife is of Japanese decent.

My two African friends who live in Australian seem to keep in contact with me so I cannot be that racist. Or maybe they are idiots as well.

So what?

X+Y/Z = crab meat balls

Oh, give it a rest, Slappy. We're all having fun--including you, I assume, given that you've been on this thread half the day with the rest of us.

Of course. But seem get a little too personal.

Your emergency escape parachute isn't opening. I'm sorry to say.

y = mx + b

evaluate for x = increasing blood pressure, 140/100 to 190/120. I predict onwards to page 100 the bp goes to 210/150. Have 911 ready for our friend.

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Whilst I agree that Boo Yah's opinions might not be the most palatable, I find the mockery, anger, nit-picking, and attempts at group-think assimilation even more offensive. Contrary to the beliefs that I've seen here, BY *IS* allowed to have his own opinion, is allowed to have that opinion without providing a thesis on WHY he has that opinion, and *should* be free from attempts to alter his beliefs and from being chastised or belittled.

Of course, humans like to have everyone bleating the same little tune like good little sheep, don't they?

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Make it $4k and your implied threat could actually be honored. Do remember 'your green card' is contingent upon having a clean criminal record. Nice to dislay overt signs of potential criminal behavior, since that can probably get you that Qantas flight home sooner. Then again, your overt self-delusion is also discounting the hard reality that people do know how to self-defend and some quite effectively.

Self defend like yourself behind the anonymity of a forum of course.

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Well... her summary was accurate. You DID say all of that stuff.

What would you say if I "summarized" a poor inner city black America's views. You would throw it out for various reasons. So how can PH summarize my views when she does not understand my point of view.

Who can understand anything that is not clearly written?

You've been asked to write clearly. Maybe we can give you from page 55-60 to so so, thereby undercutting the Page 100 Drive.

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There is absolutely no way on God's green earth that BY has an MA in Economics. There is absolutely no way on God's green earth that BY is not fully involved in the beliefs he has spouted here. The difference between a racist and a non-racist is that a non-racist would never in a million years spew forth what BY has as a form of entertainment. That would be abhorrent to them/us.

and from an ivy league school might I add. Should I scan it and add it here for your approval? sure thing, I'll get right to it for you.

You don't need to. All you need to do is qualify your statements on percentages and cause and effect.

The fact still stands that basically no one spent half a minute asking what I actually said but jumped on a bandwagon and then started throwing out BS responses. Therefore in return you received BS responses. Simple as that. I also like how you copied that I love the KKK. You have to be smarter than that now. Maybe the sun down there is affecting your brain cells. I am not American or Canaaaaaaadian so that stigma of racism doesn't mean #### to me. Or maybe you falsely think I will cry if somebody calls me a racist. Which was the whole point of writing that in the first place. Last time I cried was 7 years ago.

I see. So it's everyone else's fault that you spewed all that vitriol without the ability to explain it.

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#6 you know what gets me about you. I actually like you. You tend to actually have a point of view and not the stereotypical "your an idiot die die die" response from many here. Or PH's pompous I use big words so I must be smart attitude.

buttering me up doesn't change what you said. And it doesn't change what I think.

In that vein - I don't think you have an MA in Economics. I think you are a lying. And I don't say that lightly.

My specialty is IT management and not in domestic cultural differences or slavery. On the other hand, as if I am going to spend any time proving anything to VJ Troll or research normalization figures for maviwaro.

I also have never stated or pretended to know all, or anything for that matter, about poor inner city black Americans. So why try use that against me. My suggestions are about how to get out of inner city poverty. Nothing more nothing less.

Got it. So avoid statistical relevance but get away with blurting out incomplete data?

I also do not know everything there is to know. Maybe we can all take a moment to learn together? Yes?

I hate to break up this little party, but... did anyone ever stop to think for a moment that perhaps -- and maybe I'm way off base here -- Boo-Yah is merely continuing with his argument, simply because he knows it annoys the living hell out of a number of you on here? Look at how so many have responded (and keep responding) to him. If I didn't know better, I'd say he's playing you guys like a fiddle.

That wouldn't be a bad strategy, actually. If you can't force an opponent to surrender, the next best thing is to drive him insane.

Why you party crasher!!!!!

For the record, its been all laughs for me... I can't speak for the rest though.

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Whilst I agree that Boo Yah's opinions might not be the most palatable, I find the mockery, anger, nit-picking, and attempts at group-think assimilation even more offensive. Contrary to the beliefs that I've seen here, BY *IS* allowed to have his own opinion, is allowed to have that opinion without providing a thesis on WHY he has that opinion, and *should* be free from attempts to alter his beliefs and from being chastised or belittled.

Absolutely he is entitled to his own opinion. But he is a willing participant in the discussion, which is another free choice.

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And then I also went on the offensive challenging your continued disgust for knowlege:

QUOTE(Boo-Yah! @ Mar 24 2008, 09:04 PM) *

QUOTE(Number 6 @ Mar 24 2008, 10:53 PM) *

QUOTE(Boo-Yah! @ Mar 24 2008, 10:51 PM) *

Last time I checked no Oprahs or Will Smiths came from Africa. Can anyone deny the resources and opportunities available to so many black Americans which so many people in various African nations can only dream of.

No. But noone can deny the existence of social inequalities either.

Yes. All too easy for someone in the NE east to blame slavery, lol, because there where so many plantations in the NE. Especially in Chicago. lol.

The first step to equality requires an effort on their behalf. Stop using history as a justification. Bill Cosby has the right idea but not everyone is listening. Easier to play the victim than take responsibility for one's circumstances.

How easy it is to be ignorant of history... or just ignore it. Either way, its not an excuse for judging what clearly you do not wish to understand.

Absolutely, lets make this go to 100... but do remove the first 4 pages since our friend can't be credited with those pages.

Or maybe I just don't care about African American history or their inequalities. Ever thought of that; As a scientist obtaining a PhD of course..

I am still trying to find where I was racist with what you just posted.

You said it, not me. GO back and find the first time I insinuate your racist undertones. Its not at post #1 is it? Ginko biloba for better memory.

Then again, not caring about African American history or the inequalities that brought about reality is really a descript isn't it? Sensible readers have been picking up on it and perhaps that just disqualifies your already ridiculous claims even more, just decades of pages after bringing them forth.