Pat Buchanan: Black Americans should be grateful we brought them over on slave ships!

[Heracles 417]

Biased against a racist? I would think that would be a big fat YES! Your 'evidence' isn't worth a toss which is why it was summarily dismissed.

Yes a KKK member.

Its not about "opposing" views - for one thing I'm not even sure what your views really are, other than what a clown like PH has summarised above.

You said it #6..

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Its not about "opposing" views - for one thing I'm not even sure what your views really are, other than what a clown like PH has summarised above.

You said it #6..

Well... her summary was accurate. You DID say all of that stuff.

[Heracles 417]

#6 you know what gets me about you. I actually like you. You tend to actually have a point of view and not the stereotypical "your an idiot die die die" response from many here. Or PH's pompous I use big words so I must be smart attitude.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

#6 you know what gets me about you. I actually like you. You tend to actually have a point of view and not the stereotypical "your an idiot die die die" response from many here. Or PH's pompous I use big words so I must be smart attitude.

buttering me up doesn't change what you said. And it doesn't change what I think.

In that vein - I don't think you have an MA in Economics. I think you are a lying. And I don't say that lightly.

[Heracles 417]

Well... her summary was accurate. You DID say all of that stuff.

What would you say if I "summarized" a poor inner city black America's views. You would throw it out for various reasons. So how can PH summarize my views when she does not understand my point of view.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Well... her summary was accurate. You DID say all of that stuff.

What would you say if I "summarized" a poor inner city black America's views. You would throw it out for various reasons. So how can PH summarize my views when she does not understand my point of view.

Well... for one - you're saying what you (you personally) think and are having it repeated back to you verbatim or via paraphrase.

For two you're picking up on disparate cues (Wright/Video/Holiday/Pictures of NJ) and laying claim to what you think an entire group is thinking, and (not least) that group's social identity.

Should I pick up on your statements and suggest (in all seriousness) that these amount to proof of what Australians think? You speak for you, not for all.

Edited March 27, 2008 by Number 6

[Heracles 417]

#6 you know what gets me about you. I actually like you. You tend to actually have a point of view and not the stereotypical "your an idiot die die die" response from many here. Or PH's pompous I use big words so I must be smart attitude.

buttering me up doesn't change what you said. And it doesn't change what I think.

In that vein - I don't think you have an MA in Economics. I think you are a lying. And I don't say that lightly.

My specialty is IT management and not in domestic cultural differences or slavery. On the other hand, as if I am going to spend any time proving anything to VJ Troll or research normalization figures for maviwaro.

I also have never stated or pretended to know all, or anything for that matter, about poor inner city black Americans. So why try use that against me. My suggestions are about how to get out of inner city poverty. Nothing more nothing less.

Edited March 27, 2008 by Boo-Yah!

[Peikko 1,575]

Oh, I am pompous because I use big words? Get me eh?

You have done way more than suggest how to get out of inner city poverty - I am not sure I even remember the post with your suggestions as to what needs to be done - although I'll hazard a guess that better parenting and corporal punishment figure highly in your recommendations - you have suggested that African Americans are solely repsonsible for their high levels of incarceration and poverty. In other words African Americans are pre-disposed to be poor and break the law. How is this not racist?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

#6 you know what gets me about you. I actually like you. You tend to actually have a point of view and not the stereotypical "your an idiot die die die" response from many here. Or PH's pompous I use big words so I must be smart attitude.

buttering me up doesn't change what you said. And it doesn't change what I think.

In that vein - I don't think you have an MA in Economics. I think you are a lying. And I don't say that lightly.

My specialty is IT management and not in domestic cultural differences or slavery. On the other hand, as if I am going to spend any time proving anything to VJ Troll or research normalization figures for maviwaro.

I also have never stated or pretended to know all, or anything for that matter, about poor inner city black Americans. So why try use that against me. My suggestions are about how to get out of inner city poverty. Nothing more nothing less.

You said you have an MA in Economics on numerous occasions. I can't imagine how you could achieve such a qualification without being able to analyse in even simple detail - economic/demographic statistics and trends. It would be like me claiming to be a journalist and not knowing how to write, research and edit an article.

On the bolded part: Yes.. by suggesting that African Americans get on the nearest boat and #### off to Africa. AKA - starving man go where the food is. Its not a "solution" or a means to get out of inner city poverty. Deportation - voluntary or otherwise is you essentially saying "take your problems elsewhere and don't bother me with them"; also known as: "go and be poor somewhere else", or in the worst case, "go home and die".

[Peikko 1,575]

Wasn't that the bit where he was joking with us? I mean, how can we possibly have taken a post like that seriously?

[Peikko 1,575]

Someone mentioned beer. Sadly I can't find any.

[DeadPoolX 9]

I hate to break up this little party, but... did anyone ever stop to think for a moment that perhaps -- and maybe I'm way off base here -- Boo-Yah is merely continuing with his argument, simply because he knows it annoys the living hell out of a number of you on here? Look at how so many have responded (and keep responding) to him. If I didn't know better, I'd say he's playing you guys like a fiddle.

That wouldn't be a bad strategy, actually. If you can't force an opponent to surrender, the next best thing is to drive him insane.

[Empress of Groovy 373]

I hate to break up this little party, but... did anyone ever stop to think for a moment that perhaps -- and maybe I'm way off base here -- Boo-Yah is merely continuing with his argument, simply because he knows it annoys the living hell out of a number of you on here? Look at how so many have responded (and keep responding) to him. If I didn't know better, I'd say he's playing you guys like a fiddle.

That wouldn't be a bad strategy, actually. If you can't force an opponent to surrender, the next best thing is to drive him insane.

I'd be inclined to agree with you except that Boo-Yah is clearly into it and remaining an active participant. It would be one thing if he said something wacky, left for a while, and came back many pages later to check on the boiling pot he created. But in this case, he was there on nearly every page, defending his position and taking the conversation in interesting but ultimately befuddling directions.

[Krikit 1,164]

I hate to break up this little party, but... did anyone ever stop to think for a moment that perhaps -- and maybe I'm way off base here -- Boo-Yah is merely continuing with his argument, simply because he knows it annoys the living hell out of a number of you on here? Look at how so many have responded (and keep responding) to him. If I didn't know better, I'd say he's playing you guys like a fiddle.

That wouldn't be a bad strategy, actually. If you can't force an opponent to surrender, the next best thing is to drive him insane.

There is absolutely no way on God's green earth that BY has an MA in Economics. There is absolutely no way on God's green earth that BY is not fully involved in the beliefs he has spouted here. The difference between a racist and a non-racist is that a non-racist would never in a million years spew forth what BY has as a form of entertainment. That would be abhorrent to them/us.

[HAL 9000 96]

jeesh! don't you people have your families wondering ####### you're still doing on the computer?

Absolute words of wisdom from SMOKE.

I got some GREAT sleep and at least my blood pressure is not surely through the roof