Pat Buchanan: Black Americans should be grateful we brought them over on slave ships!

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Sure. I'll come meet you at your Klan meeting. Didn't they recently promote you to Grand Azzhole?

Oh- will I have to paint my face white to get in? Or maybe you can mail me one of your white sheets. Don't forget the hood!

Yes I love the KKK. What are you going to do about it DH???

Saved for posterity.

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Please elaborate on your positions so as to avoid going off like a firecracker. It would avoid our pain of having to cipher out your implied reasoning.

What about judging someone and their post without actually knowing what they are talking about..

Another self-descriptor?

40+ pages of fecal matter can't lie.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Boo Yah - about that graphic showing black people. Percentages and nominal amounts are different. Find a graphic showing (perhaps in cartogram form) nominal numbers of black people by county and it'll look very different.

The Black Population in theUnited States: March 2002

http://www.census.gov/prod/2003pubs/p20-541.pdf

Yes I know that was from the census. My point (if you missed it) is that nominal amounts and percentages tell very different stories.

Wouldn't someone with an MA in Economics have a more detailed handle on the statistics and what they mean?

He seems to take a macro-economic approach to micro-economic issues.

I have to say I'm seriously sceptical about this. He has already, several times in the past suggested that because the ranking of the poorest American cities (based on median household income city-wide) don't line up 100% to the most crime ridden, that it's proof that poverty has no relationship to crime rates.

I'm not joking

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Number 6 - two words... degree mill.

Or, one word - liar.

[Heracles 417]

My sums don't add up to yours:

Total Poverty: 37,000,000

Non Hispanic Whites: 8.2% = 303,4000

Blacks: 24.3% = 8,991,000

Hispanics: 20.6% = 7,622,000

Asians: 10.3% = 3811000

There's roughly 13.5 million missing from the total. Who are these people - Martians? Native Americans perhaps...? They are after all the poorest ethnic group in the country, with their own share of social problems. Or perhaps... people who didn't declare their race on the census forms. I dunno...

I found those number last year. Here are the latest:

Number of Americans in poverty: 37 million

24.9% of black Americans living in poverty.

Estimated black population: 39.7 million

So 9.9 million African Americans live in Poverty. Therefore 26.8% of Americans living in poverty are black and the rest are not.

[Peikko 1,575]

I should't find this funny, but quite honestly I had to laugh at some of the conclusions BY has drawn based on facts that he appears to have made up. BY's rationales continue to defy all known laws of logic and yet he ploughs on regardless.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

My sums don't add up to yours:

Total Poverty: 37,000,000

Non Hispanic Whites: 8.2% = 303,4000

Blacks: 24.3% = 8,991,000

Hispanics: 20.6% = 7,622,000

Asians: 10.3% = 3811000

There's roughly 13.5 million missing from the total. Who are these people - Martians? Native Americans perhaps...? They are after all the poorest ethnic group in the country, with their own share of social problems. Or perhaps... people who didn't declare their race on the census forms. I dunno...

I found those number last year. Here are the latest:

Number of Americans in poverty: 37 million

24.9% of black Americans living in poverty.

Estimated black population: 39.7 million

So 9.9 million African Americans live in Poverty. Therefore 26.8% of Americans living in poverty are black and the rest are not.

OK.... so using those figures 24.9% of all blacks (or 1 in 4) are living in poverty - proportionally. How does that compare proportionally to other ethnicities?

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Apples to apples. Not apples to oranges. Good point, #6.

[HAL 9000 96]

My sums don't add up to yours:

Total Poverty: 37,000,000

Non Hispanic Whites: 8.2% = 303,4000

Blacks: 24.3% = 8,991,000

Hispanics: 20.6% = 7,622,000

Asians: 10.3% = 3811000

There's roughly 13.5 million missing from the total. Who are these people - Martians? Native Americans perhaps...? They are after all the poorest ethnic group in the country, with their own share of social problems. Or perhaps... people who didn't declare their race on the census forms. I dunno...

I found those number last year. Here are the latest:

Number of Americans in poverty: 37 million

24.9% of black Americans living in poverty.

Estimated black population: 39.7 million

So 9.9 million African Americans live in Poverty. Therefore 26.8% of Americans living in poverty are black and the rest are not.

OK.... so using those figures 24.9% of all blacks (or 1 in 4) are living in poverty - proportionally. How does that compare proportionally to other ethnicities?

Normalization of data per category is supposed to be a standard statistical method of ensuring an accurate comparison for categorical data... at least that's what responsible people do with numbers when backing up a claim.

[Heracles 417]

OK.... so using those figures 24.9% of all blacks (or 1 in 4) are living in poverty - proportionally. How does that compare proportionally to other ethnicities?

Who cares. 75.1% of Americans are not black.

Normalization of data per category is supposed to be a standard statistical method of ensuring an accurate comparison for categorical data... at least that's what responsible people do with numbers when backing up a claim.

or maybe the 75.1% don't matter because they where not segregated.

[HAL 9000 96]

OK.... so using those figures 24.9% of all blacks (or 1 in 4) are living in poverty - proportionally. How does that compare proportionally to other ethnicities?

Who cares. 75.1% of Americans are not black.

Normalization of data per category is supposed to be a standard statistical method of ensuring an accurate comparison for categorical data... at least that's what responsible people do with numbers when backing up a claim.

or maybe the 75.1% don't matter because they where not segregated.

?

More ridiculous ignorance? I guess so.

[Peikko 1,575]

Well I think that neatly sums it up.

[Heracles 417]

Wouldn't someone with an MA in Economics have a more detailed handle on the statistics and what they mean?

He seems to take a macro-economic approach to micro-economic issues.

I have to say I'm seriously sceptical about this. He has already, several times in the past suggested that because the ranking of the poorest American cities (based on median household income city-wide) don't line up 100% to the most crime ridden, that it's proof that poverty has no relationship to crime rates.

I'm not joking

Interesting because even when using numbers Troll provided most black Americans live in the South than the North or West.

[HAL 9000 96]

Wouldn't someone with an MA in Economics have a more detailed handle on the statistics and what they mean?

He seems to take a macro-economic approach to micro-economic issues.

I have to say I'm seriously sceptical about this. He has already, several times in the past suggested that because the ranking of the poorest American cities (based on median household income city-wide) don't line up 100% to the most crime ridden, that it's proof that poverty has no relationship to crime rates.

I'm not joking

Interesting because even when using numbers Troll provided most black Americans live in the South than the North or West.

So make your point without teetering off the brink [again].

[Heracles 417]

More ridiculous ignorance? I guess so.

Ignorance of what. Are the number correct or not?