Pat Buchanan: Black Americans should be grateful we brought them over on slave ships!

[Heracles 417]

Clever would be if found out the details of your family in India and then called my friend, who's dad is a minister there. I think you know how the system works there.

Yes, that would be clever. I guess that means I have nothing to fear from you.

Or we could meet up in person and I could get the details this way..

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

Clever would be if found out the details of your family in India and then called my friend, who's dad is a minister there. I think you know how the system works there.

Yes, that would be clever. I guess that means I have nothing to fear from you.

Or we could meet up in person and I could get the details this way..

And better still

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Why Help? Because Agnes, PH, #6, Mister Fancypants, maviwaro, Vj Troll and yourself don't agree with me. That makes 7 people. Lets round it up to 20.

Glenn beck has approx 500,000 viewers. O'reilly has 1.2 million.

Not agreeing is one thing, but I'm having a hard time finding a coherent chain of argument in your posts. The pattern seems to go something like this:

1) You make a crude blanket statement about "the black community" (such as you have defined it).

2) When challenged on the aforementioned statement you:

• Flit off onto 101 other (irrelevant) things - including (but not limited to): The Ottoman Empire, Quantas, and the state of your personal finances.

• Counter the challenger by attacking an argument that they explicitly did not make and do not support.

3) Rinse. Repeat.

#6 I am not going to sit here and explain myself to someone I don't even know.

As if you could anyway.

[Heracles 417]

The bit about holding their future in their own hands is transalating to BY as 'they only have themselves to blame for their current situation'.

Which means that again, he is ignoring the circumstances that lead to the present. In other words, history.

Do you even know what I am saying with that statement?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

45,000,000+ Americans live in 'poverty'. Out of those roughly 8,750,000 are Black Americans living in poverty. Which basically means 80% of Americans living in poverty are not Black.

Where did you get these figures?

[HAL 9000 96]

Now the primary element holding them back is themselves. There is no intent to imply that African-American’s struggles do not come with an extra load of baggage caused by the past indiscretions of American history. Is there still a long, long, long way to go in the struggle for African Americans in forging a better tomorrow for themselves, the communities they live, and for the America society as a whole? You bet! That struggle is evident and amplified by the challenges African-Americans face in today’s society. The future is where America’s hopes should rest with the upcoming generations who will move far beyond the pain, loss, struggle, and sacrifice the clouds the growth and unity of people from all walks of life.

This is basically what I have been trying to say all along.

Which post was this?

And he would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for those pesky kids.

Why run and cry when you have 30+ pages in this very thread of self-delusional material for all to see?

It sure makes me wonder how someone could make it through college with such ideas and never be scrutinized for them or at least able to re-examine such beliefs. What kind of books does someone read or who does someone listen to (in Australia) that would shape such views? I have no idea how old BY is...I'm guessing no older than about 24, but it baffles me that he's made it this far in life and has been here in America for as long as he is without being faced with such views being challenged, either internally or from confrontation with someone else.

We had another member on here that you may remember - Wogboy. He was very similar to BY in terms of his views and rationale except many of his posts stressed how "stupid and uneducated" Americans are.

I wonder if this is typical of the Australian Male?

I seem to remember BY saying last year that he was around 30.

There had to have been some kind of indoctrination...I'm just curious how. I can't imagine he came to such views by simply reading books.

Some of us are still waiting to find out what it was that warped him precisely that way.

I remember a different BY... perhaps we have a hacked community member? Maybe I don't know enough of the man here on VJ to make an accurate assessment in that regard.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Clever would be if found out the details of your family in India and then called my friend, who's dad is a minister there. I think you know how the system works there.

Yes, that would be clever. I guess that means I have nothing to fear from you.

Or we could meet up in person and I could get the details this way..

Sure. I'll come meet you at your Klan meeting. Didn't they recently promote you to Grand Azzhole?

Oh- will I have to paint my face white to get in? Or maybe you can mail me one of your white sheets. Don't forget the hood!

[Heracles 417]

And better still

Come on. You guys always turn to insults because you can hide behind the net. I would like to see anyone get smart in person. Actually I would pay for that..

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

45,000,000+ Americans live in 'poverty'. Out of those roughly 8,750,000 are Black Americans living in poverty. Which basically means 80% of Americans living in poverty are not Black.

Where did you get these figures?

I like the one that suggest few black people live in places like NY, NJ, CA, IL and MI. That's pretty good. I wonder if some census bureau worker told him this at some bar in DC.

[HAL 9000 96]

There had to have been some kind of indoctrination...I'm just curious how. I can't imagine he came to such views by simply reading books.

Indoctrination of what? That I don't have no sympathy for poor inner city black Americans born after the 80's.. That I support Bill Cosby's fight to help the community and his views.

This would imply you wouldn't have the absurd written declarations you've made here, there, and potentially everywhere.

[Heracles 417]

Sure. I'll come meet you at your Klan meeting. Didn't they recently promote you to Grand Azzhole?

Oh- will I have to paint my face white to get in? Or maybe you can mail me one of your white sheets. Don't forget the hood!

Yes I love the KKK. What are you going to do about it DH???

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Sure. I'll come meet you at your Klan meeting. Didn't they recently promote you to Grand Azzhole?

Oh- will I have to paint my face white to get in? Or maybe you can mail me one of your white sheets. Don't forget the hood!

Yes I love the KKK. What are you going to do about it DH???

Absolutely nothing, amigo.

So tell me, what do you love most about the Klan? I know it must be difficult to find one thing out of so many, but please try.

[HAL 9000 96]

So, after all these pages of racism, your now saying your views run parallel with those of Bill Cosby? Extraordinary, really. Self delusion is a very, very strange thing indeed.

and apparently Glenn Beck

Why Help? Because Agnes, PH, #6, Mister Fancypants, maviwaro, Vj Troll and yourself don't agree with me. That makes 7 people. Lets round it up to 20.

Glenn beck has approx 500,000 viewers. O'reilly has 1.2 million.

I'm sure that there are plenty of readers that are courtesy of your wild tangents and utter indecision as to what to say. Your racist comments are well... self evident!

[Heracles 417]

45,000,000+ Americans live in 'poverty'. Out of those roughly 8,750,000 are Black Americans living in poverty. Which basically means 80% of Americans living in poverty are not Black.

Where did you get these figures?

I like the one that suggest few black people live in places like NY, NJ, CA, IL and MI. That's pretty good. I wonder if some census bureau worker told him this at some bar in DC.

Like this:

or

http://www.census.gov/prod/2003pubs/p20-541.pdf

or

http://www.shepscenter.unc.edu/research_pr...s/black2000.pdf

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

What does Cable news viewership prove.

Trumpeting viewing figures of 1.2 million out of a population of 300,000,000 is like comparing the size difference between different types of flies.