Pat Buchanan: Black Americans should be grateful we brought them over on slave ships!

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

the only thing is, that white preachers-freaks-whatever, get to say whatever on tv or on the press, and they 'have the right' because 'the other folks are doing it'... look what happened to Obama's preacher, they're killin him because omg he said so many mean things..

but, what has ever happened to David Duke? to Buchanan? to the guys that said that 9/11 was caused by lesbians, gays, satanists? to the westboro baptist church? oh, it's their freedom of speech to say it.. but if it's a minority, it's terrible because they are trying to abuse the now-minority white race...

Don't be ignorant, why play the race card ? Trying to gain sympathy from the great White guilt trip ??

Sofargone

Don't mind Pedroh. If you ain't brownz, you ain't sh!t.

[peejay 327]

I read this same article on Human Events several days ago. While I can see where the entire article would most likely irritate your typical liberal (Black or White), there is nothing there that is what I would consider "over the top". It's certainly not on par with the stuff that Rev. Jeremiah Wright said and which prompted Buchanan's reponse.

I have read several books and articles by Buchanan and find most of his material well researched and well written on a wide range of topics. While Buchanan is a conservative, he certainly is no neo-con Iraq supporter or globalist free trader at any cost or open borders zealot like many other conservatives. He often is highly critical of Bush and many prominent Republicans along with their policies. Buchanan is definitely his own man. I have also read statements from Buchanan stating that slavery and segregation was wrong, but he definitely doesn't cut the Black community any slack nor does he make excuses for them. His sin is being a White man and stating it. Bill Cosby could say the same thing and the silence from the White liberals at VJ would be deafening.

I haven't seen anything in Buchanans article that sez: "Black Americans should be grateful we brought them over on slave ships." That is just more race baiting and bomb throwing from VJ Troll (aka: Gupt, Agent Smith, Arjit, etc.). Don't believe me? Read the entire article instead of just reacting to the Troll's title of the thread.

Personally I find guys like Teddy Kennedy and Howard Dean far more annoying, irritating, and out in the wacko's ozone. I'm sure the people in this thread that blast Buchanan probably think both of those guys walk on water and worship the ground they walk on. Go figure!

BTW...I'm an independent and have no party affiliation. I just call 'em like I see 'em.

Edited March 23, 2008 by peejay

[Mags 112]

I knew some total racist would show up in this thread and meekly agree with Pat Buchanan. And of course it happened. VJ sux.

Personal attacks are against the TOS, Alex. Please refrain.

[Caladan 19]

Thing is, Buchanan's wrong on all of the conclusions he draws from his points. He's not bravely stating tough truths. He's spouting mostly the same old garbage. (The same goes for Cosby. The problem of urban poverty isn't due to different clothing trends, people.)

[Ban Hammer 13,283]

Thing is, Buchanan's wrong on all of the conclusions he draws from his points. He's not bravely stating tough truths. He's spouting mostly the same old garbage. (The same goes for Cosby. The problem of urban poverty isn't due to different clothing trends, people.)

while that may be true, no matter where one lives in the usa they still have the same opportunity to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. it worked for me - it might work for others too.

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Edited March 23, 2008 by charlesandnessa

[Caladan 19]

And many young black men and women do, charles. Recruitment has been largely from poor areas: urban blacks and Hispanics, rural whites. Still not sure that's a solution; we won't fix our schools, so we'll have a military largely made up of poor people with no other options, and politicians who never needed to serve. Sounds like a bad idea, long-term, to me.

[gabby4ever 1]

he said only the truth and NOTHING but the truth....unfortunatelly some folks cant handle truth very well!!!!

[GaryC 7]

And many young black men and women do, charles. Recruitment has been largely from poor areas: urban blacks and Hispanics, rural whites. Still not sure that's a solution; we won't fix our schools, so we'll have a military largely made up of poor people with no other options, and politicians who never needed to serve. Sounds like a bad idea, long-term, to me.

Please don't go there. Most people in the military are there because they want to serve. I didn't go because I was poor and didn't have any other options. My counterpart at work just left a $30/hour job to rejoin the army because he wanted to serve. (he had already done one enlistment) People sacrifice their time and sometimes their lives because they feel they have a debt to their country and join for that reason. Don't lessen their service by making statements like that.

Edited March 24, 2008 by GaryC

[Jenn! 918]

oooooo you're gonna get it. calling someone a 'total racist' is against the TOS. lets see if the mods show favoritism....

ah indeed they have

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oh joy another bash evil whitey thread

[Ban Hammer 13,283]

And many young black men and women do, charles. Recruitment has been largely from poor areas: urban blacks and Hispanics, rural whites. Still not sure that's a solution; we won't fix our schools, so we'll have a military largely made up of poor people with no other options, and politicians who never needed to serve. Sounds like a bad idea, long-term, to me.

you're way off the mark on that.

oh joy another bash evil whitey thread

jesse jackson and al sharpton won't show up to defend you

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oh joy another bash evil whitey thread

jesse jackson and al sharpton won't show up to defend you

of course not coz i'm evil whitey! i personally caused every single negative thing in every other races history everywhere in the world.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Thing is, Buchanan's wrong on all of the conclusions he draws from his points. He's not bravely stating tough truths. He's spouting mostly the same old garbage. (The same goes for Cosby. The problem of urban poverty isn't due to different clothing trends, people.)

Agreed - none of these guys are making any profound statements here, simply preaching to the choir. They don't deserve even 1/4 of the attention they get.

[HAL 9000 96]

Thing is, Buchanan's wrong on all of the conclusions he draws from his points. He's not bravely stating tough truths. He's spouting mostly the same old garbage. (The same goes for Cosby. The problem of urban poverty isn't due to different clothing trends, people.)

Agreed - none of these guys are making any profound statements here, simply preaching to the choir. They don't deserve even 1/4 of the attention they get.

True enough. The only one that stands to actually impact anyone positively, once they get past the ra-raw of the public outcry and uncomfortable racist sentiments that insidiously plague many subconsciousness' (sp?) is Cosby, and that because he's listened to by a wide audience that *may* impact several communities... and may not.

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oh joy another bash evil whitey thread

No, it's a bash Buchanan thread.

Unless you feel all white people, like Pat, apologize for and celebrate slavery. I certainly don't think that's true.