Pat Buchanan: Black Americans should be grateful we brought them over on slave ships!

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Or they can do the logical, fair and balanced thing by focusing on all equal cases of victimization equally. Wall.

Why? They are not a democracy. It is a private run news network. Than can spend 10 hours focusing on burning corn fields if they like.

LOL. Then what a wonderful news source you cite if that's the case... Wall.

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How so? By saying they should be responsible for their actions and their future rather than blaming historical events. Yes how racist of me.

By knowing nothing about "the black community" to think that "they" actually need your rather generalistic ideas for how to solve inner city problems - or indeed your equally generalistic depiction.

Of course its well within keeping with the stereotypical construct of the Australian male, but that's something else entirely isn't it.

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Not the way you've expressed it in this thread, no.

It might not be so bad - if with the "helpful suggestions' you are making in relation to people like Jeremiah Wright you also gave "the black community" the courteousy of actually knowing something about it and what people within it are currently doing.

You don't have any more specifics to your argument - not about individuals or indeed individual communities. To try to pretend that you do and carrying on the way you are - is frankly, an insult to the intelligence of many culturally diverse people in this forum

Specifics of what. The ghettos.

Treating people as individuals rather than as some sort of amorphous opposition group on the fringes of American society.

The line of your thinking seems to run something like this:

Jeremiah Wright = The Black Community = Gangs and crack dealers

Edited March 25, 2008 by Number 6

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I don't actually believe that BY knows many African Americans other than the ones he sees on TV.

I just remembered the guys who moved us where black. Does that count?

Did they ask you for reparations in addition to their quoted movers fee?

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I don't actually believe that BY knows many African Americans other than the ones he sees on TV.

I just remembered the guys who moved us where black. Does that count?

Did they ask you for reparations in addition to their quoted movers fee?

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I don't actually believe that BY knows many African Americans other than the ones he sees on TV.

I just remembered the guys who moved us where black. Does that count?

Did they ask you for reparations in addition to their quoted movers fee?

Yeah I had that from my old landlady - an extra $20 on top of the monthly rent.

P.S. What's with the fixation with Fox News? And the Ottoman Empire come to that...

Edited March 25, 2008 by Number 6

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By knowing nothing about "the black community" to think that "they" actually need your rather generalistic ideas for how to solve inner city problems - or indeed your equally generalistic depiction.

Of course its well within keeping with the stereotypical construct of the Australian male, but that's something else entirely isn't it.

At the end of the day it is not my loss whether they listen or not.

Funny your fellow countrymen and women don't have a problem with it considering the thousands that are migrating there every single month. Or maybe they are idiots unlike you, a guy living in NJ..

I don't actually believe that BY knows many African Americans other than the ones he sees on TV.

I just remembered the guys who moved us where black. Does that count?

Did they ask you for reparations in addition to their quoted movers fee?

No but it sure feels good knowing I can buy and sell their entire families, using cash..

The line of your thinking seems to run something like this:

Jeremiah Wright = The Black Community = Gangs and crack dealers

You finally got it..

Edited March 25, 2008 by Boo-Yah!

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By knowing nothing about "the black community" to think that "they" actually need your rather generalistic ideas for how to solve inner city problems - or indeed your equally generalistic depiction.

Of course its well within keeping with the stereotypical construct of the Australian male, but that's something else entirely isn't it.

At the end of the day it is not my loss whether they listen or not.

Funny your fellow countrymen and women don't have a problem with it considering the thousands that are migrating there every single month. Or maybe they are idiots unlike you, a guy living in NJ..

I don't actually believe that BY knows many African Americans other than the ones he sees on TV.

I just remembered the guys who moved us where black. Does that count?

Did they ask you for reparations in addition to their quoted movers fee?

No but it sure feels good knowing I can buy and sell their entire families, using cash..

The line of your thinking seems to run something like this:

Jeremiah Wright = The Black Community = Gangs and crack dealers

You finally got it..

. . .

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How so? By saying they should be responsible for their actions and their future rather than blaming historical events. Yes how racist of me.

By knowing nothing about "the black community" to think that "they" actually need your rather generalistic ideas for how to solve inner city problems - or indeed your equally generalistic depiction.

Of course its well within keeping with the stereotypical construct of the Australian male, but that's something else entirely isn't it.

At the end of the day it is not my loss whether they listen or not.

Funny your fellow countrymen and women don't have a problem with it considering the thousands that are migrating there every single month. Or maybe they are idiots unlike you, a guy living in NJ..

At the end of the day its not their loss whether you have anything worth listening to. Or not. No specific solutions - only blame.

A couple of people I work with are black - do I take this to mean that you'd be offering them a piece of your mind, because in your mind the balance of probability suggests that they must live in a crime-ridden neighborhood with a messy yard? I'll tell you this much. The "they" in your posts is pretty damning.

What does the UK's immigration policy and my living in NJ have to do with anything. Mind if I file that with Fox News and the Ottomans?

Edited March 25, 2008 by Number 6

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Well, Fox News sure has a weakness for missing blonde girls. And fires, now that I think of it.

Maybe Fox News needs affirmative action applied to their station. This way for every lost blonde girl they will need to also show a lost minority.

Seriously misunderstood? Looking back at your comments here, I have to say I doubt that. You've gone out of your way to promote a compartmentalist and ultimately racist view of blacks and black culture.

How so? By saying they should be responsible for their actions and their future rather than blaming historical events. Yes how racist of me.

With all do respect, it is easy to see that you do not know very much about black history, so you shouldnt speak on it, segregation did not end until the 1960's, that wasnt that long ago, you speak like racism ended in the 1800's. And a big reason why many blacks are in the situation that they are in is because when segregation ended they did not receive any type of handouts. But jews and Native Indians did receive handouts financially and economically to jump start the oppresion that they were in. You will never see a homeless native american because they are fully taken care of by the government (loans, housing, education) you name it they get it.

Do not be cruel and say they need to move on, that is incredibly insensitive. there are still many blacks alive that have first hand experince with racism, and have seen their parents and grandparents get mistreated maybe killed. how do you tell a person like that to move on??

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By knowing nothing about "the black community" to think that "they" actually need your rather generalistic ideas for how to solve inner city problems - or indeed your equally generalistic depiction.

Of course its well within keeping with the stereotypical construct of the Australian male, but that's something else entirely isn't it.

At the end of the day it is not my loss whether they listen or not.

Funny your fellow countrymen and women don't have a problem with it considering the thousands that are migrating there every single month. Or maybe they are idiots unlike you, a guy living in NJ..

I don't actually believe that BY knows many African Americans other than the ones he sees on TV.

I just remembered the guys who moved us where black. Does that count?

Did they ask you for reparations in addition to their quoted movers fee?

No but it sure feels good knowing I can buy and sell their entire families, using cash..

The line of your thinking seems to run something like this:

Jeremiah Wright = The Black Community = Gangs and crack dealers

You finally got it..

Yeah I guess we really did

Well, Fox News sure has a weakness for missing blonde girls. And fires, now that I think of it.

Maybe Fox News needs affirmative action applied to their station. This way for every lost blonde girl they will need to also show a lost minority.

Seriously misunderstood? Looking back at your comments here, I have to say I doubt that. You've gone out of your way to promote a compartmentalist and ultimately racist view of blacks and black culture.

How so? By saying they should be responsible for their actions and their future rather than blaming historical events. Yes how racist of me.

With all do respect, it is easy to see that you do not know very much about black history, so you shouldnt speak on it, segregation did not end until the 1960's, that wasnt that long ago, you speak like racism ended in the 1800's. And a big reason why many blacks are in the situation that they are in is because when segregation ended they did not receive any type of handouts. But jews and Native Indians did receive handouts financially and economically to jump start the oppresion that they were in. You will never see a homeless native american because they are fully taken care of by the government (loans, housing, education) you name it they get it.

Do not be cruel and say they need to move on, that is incredibly insensitive. there are still many blacks alive that have first hand experince with racism, and have seen their parents and grandparents get mistreated maybe killed. how do you tell a person like that to move on??

The Native American population still has problems of its own - including high rates of alcoholism and suicide.

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I'm still not sure I know how the Ottoman empire and Australian immigration statistics fit into all of this, but I'm really trying!

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I'm still not sure I know how the Ottoman empire and Australian immigration statistics fit into all of this, but I'm really trying!

Or the UK's immigration policy and my living in NJ.

I'm sure there's a Venn diagram laying around somewhere... or some complex equation to work it all out.

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With all do respect, it is easy to see that you do not know very much about black history, so you shouldnt speak on it, segregation did not end until the 1960's, that wasnt that long ago, you speak like racism ended in the 1800's. And a big reason why many blacks are in the situation that they are in is because when segregation ended they did not receive any type of handouts. But jews and Native Indians did receive handouts financially and economically to jump start the oppresion that they were in. You will never see a homeless native american because they are fully taken care of by the government (loans, housing, education) you name it they get it.

Do not be cruel and say they need to move on, that is incredibly insensitive. there are still many blacks alive that have first hand experince with racism, and have seen their parents and grandparents get mistreated maybe killed. how do you tell a person like that to move on??

So clearly compensation payments are the answer. Do you think we should cut them off after a certain year or should everybody black get it? Also, I have only been here for 2 years right. So would I have to contribute to such a fund?

I know it might sound like I a patronizing you but I am not. I am keen on hearing your answer to the above questions.

Edited March 25, 2008 by Boo-Yah!

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Who is making serious demands for compensation payments? Oh I forgot, no one.