personal attacks

[Mags 112]

Mags, not to be offensive, but I constantly do so, and the same keeps happening with no consequences to the usual bullies. Perhaps some members have more pull with the moderating team than us simple mortals. Whatever.

*sigh*

Lenina, not to be offensive back, but HOW do you know that we do nothing? Action taken against an individual is conducted privately, so NO ONE (apart from the individual concerned) would know any details. Additionally, what one person may feel is offensive is not offensive to another. It's a difficult job to gauge the middle ground sometimes. Some people report things to us that they feel is a TOS violation but upon analysis it isn't.

People DO get suspended here on VJ - our list is VERY long - but at the end of the day not everyone is going to agree with our actions and that's okay. I really don't mind and I'm used to it.

I'd also like to add that I haven't received a PM from you for a VERY long time, and I wish to point out ONCE more that the Report Button ONLY sends reports to Captain Ewok - not the mods.

[SMOKE 1,426]

ok....so who said what to who?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

i have no clue what this is about.

hmm.. you did not get the memo....?

no!!!! I want a memo!!!!!

Ask and you shall receive.

[eau_xplain 2]

Please point the way to the "clueless" corner so I may find a nice place to sit and wait for someone to hand me a memo.

But, I do agree with brother dean's original post. Internet or RL, we are all persons and should treat each other with respect.

[almaty 19]

sister mags, point is well taken, pm them directly..the captain ewok, is a busy man in a different time zone, and i admire his dedication to this site..he has to worry about the site functioinfg..advertising etc..the mods are easier to get ahold of and if needed, we consult with the captain

[Chica Yeyé 41]

Mags, not to be offensive, but I constantly do so, and the same keeps happening with no consequences to the usual bullies. Perhaps some members have more pull with the moderating team than us simple mortals. Whatever.

*sigh*

Lenina, not to be offensive back, but HOW do you know that we do nothing? Action taken against an individual is conducted privately, so NO ONE (apart from the individual concerned) would know any details. Additionally, what one person may feel is offensive is not offensive to another. It's a difficult job to gauge the middle ground sometimes. Some people report things to us that they feel is a TOS violation but upon analysis it isn't.

People DO get suspended here on VJ - our list is VERY long - but at the end of the day not everyone is going to agree with our actions and that's okay. I really don't mind and I'm used to it.

I'd also like to add that I haven't received a PM from you for a VERY long time, and I wish to point out ONCE more that the Report Button ONLY sends reports to Captain Ewok - not the mods.

No need for sarcasm and the "ONCE MORE" discourse mags, save it. The reason I don't PM you anymore is because I decided to PM Ewok directly; and will continue to do so.

And "once more", some VJ members who continuously harass, bully and offend people roam around like nothing happens, so yes, there is favoritism that is out there for all of us to see.

Peace out, L.

[Marilyn. 340]

Mags, not to be offensive, but I constantly do so, and the same keeps happening with no consequences to the usual bullies. Perhaps some members have more pull with the moderating team than us simple mortals. Whatever.

*sigh*

Lenina, not to be offensive back, but HOW do you know that we do nothing? Action taken against an individual is conducted privately, so NO ONE (apart from the individual concerned) would know any details. Additionally, what one person may feel is offensive is not offensive to another. It's a difficult job to gauge the middle ground sometimes. Some people report things to us that they feel is a TOS violation but upon analysis it isn't.

People DO get suspended here on VJ - our list is VERY long - but at the end of the day not everyone is going to agree with our actions and that's okay. I really don't mind and I'm used to it.

I'd also like to add that I haven't received a PM from you for a VERY long time, and I wish to point out ONCE more that the Report Button ONLY sends reports to Captain Ewok - not the mods.

No need for sarcasm and the "ONCE MORE" discourse mags, save it. The reason I don't PM you anymore is because I decided to PM Ewok directly; and will continue to do so.

And "once more", some VJ members who continuously harass, bully and offend people roam around like nothing happens, so yes, there is favoritism that is out there for all of us to see.

Peace out, L.

don't take this the wrong way but you shouldn't complain that nothing is being done then if you are just reporting to Captain ewok... Ewok isn't here a lot of the times and the mods are... and if for whatever reason you don't want to report to Mags, there is LAL and/or William you can report to

[Nessa 23]

to brother Dean

[brnidokiegurl 0]

i think we dont see the whole picture, we dont know or see how many times someone has been warned and how many chances do they get total before they are banned, fairly sure each time someone complains its judged well wether that requires a warning or not as we all read things differently enough warnings = soon to be gone

[Marilyn. 340]

i think we dont see the whole picture, we dont know or see how many times someone has been warned and how many chances do they get total before they are banned, fairly sure each time someone complains its judged well wether that requires a warning or not as we all read things differently enough warnings = soon to be gone

[Kazan' Tiger 1]

While I think personal attacks are wrong, I don't like mods being put in the light of babysitters or moralists. We are all different people with different characters. Further, because we are an International bunch, cultures can collide and often do. What are harsh words for one person may be considered rib-tickling for another. It is hard to judge sometimes.

[William33 110]

Mags, not to be offensive, but I constantly do so, and the same keeps happening with no consequences to the usual bullies. Perhaps some members have more pull with the moderating team than us simple mortals. Whatever.

*sigh*

Lenina, not to be offensive back, but HOW do you know that we do nothing? Action taken against an individual is conducted privately, so NO ONE (apart from the individual concerned) would know any details. Additionally, what one person may feel is offensive is not offensive to another. It's a difficult job to gauge the middle ground sometimes. Some people report things to us that they feel is a TOS violation but upon analysis it isn't.

People DO get suspended here on VJ - our list is VERY long - but at the end of the day not everyone is going to agree with our actions and that's okay. I really don't mind and I'm used to it.

I'd also like to add that I haven't received a PM from you for a VERY long time, and I wish to point out ONCE more that the Report Button ONLY sends reports to Captain Ewok - not the mods.

No need for sarcasm and the "ONCE MORE" discourse mags, save it. The reason I don't PM you anymore is because I decided to PM Ewok directly; and will continue to do so.

And "once more", some VJ members who continuously harass, bully and offend people roam around like nothing happens, so yes, there is favoritism that is out there for all of us to see.

Peace out, L.

You obviously fail to understand the way things work here. We Mods are here (voluntarily), to deal with site issues, in a fair and collective manner.

This is the expectation of Captain Ewok and we fulfill that expectation.

In a general sense, we usually receive information about issues and react accordingly. We do not search every thread for problems, as this would be an arduous task. Do you read every single thread on VJ?

Therefore, issues do arise that we do not see and are not formally reported to us.

In conclusion, we do not offer favoritism to any member; as all issues are dealt with equally.

If you choose to circumvent protocol and inform the Captain directly with your issues, be aware that we will all confer on the issue eventually.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Here's my 2 cents...

We all here are capable of and most of us are guilty of taking personal jabs at one another from time to time. That, I don't think is a serious problem. There are, however, a few bad apples on almost every forum (I used to moderate one), who make it a personal vendetta against one or more people they have decided they don't like, for whatever reason, and they'll use every opportunity they can, like replying to a topic with a response that has absolutely nothing to do with the topic, but is nothing more than an insult directed at the person they have targeted. It's not so easy, however, to make a case about a person's ongoing behavior when the method of dealing with it is by reporting specific instances where they clearly crossed the line. It is more obvious though for many who are here regularly as they observe the collection of posts that person makes. For that reason, I think that regular member's opinions should come into account and should be consulted as to what they think about the problem, including suggestions on a solution.

It's no surprise, given that all of us come from so many different walks of life, with different viewpoints and different temperments, that there are some here we gravitate towards and others that we repel from. However, that shouldn't exclude us from extending kindness towards anyone's personal triumphs or show empathy towards anyone's misfortune. Most of us seek out support from one another here through our own personal struggles and can set aside what ever personal feelings we have for each other to offer such support in a time of need...or even just out of good will. If we can't do that for each other then we should ask ourselves what are we doing here in the first place?

Edited March 21, 2008 by Mister Fancypants

[Nagishkaw 510]

I see this thread as being about bland cover-ups.

[Jenn! 918]

If you choose to circumvent protocol and inform the Captain directly with your issues, be aware that we will all confer on the issue eventually.

Seriously? Using the report button instead of PMing one of the three of you is frowned upon? Is that what you're saying?