k-1 gone bad I want her out asap

[pushbrk 12,883]

You aren't sending back bad food at a diner...THIS IS A HUMAN BEING FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!!!

You make me sick.

Well, that could be argued. Apparently, the OP believes she is a bad apple. OP, if you have chat logs that she has deceived you in order to gain residency, save them, and make contact with ICE to inform them that you will not be proceeding with her immigration process, for reasons as detailed in the attached chat logs.

From the O/P "How can I send her back"...

#######-this isn't a defective DVD player!!! You can't just "send back" and there is NO warranty period! ####### do you think YOU are????

Ok, the relationship has gone bad...and YOUR reaction [ and main concern, seemingly] is " send her back..." damn....#######?

She has used him for residency purposes. It is his right to make sure she does not deceive the US government or any other person, no?

Well, he's within his rights to take steps with that in mind but the "making sure" is going to be up to the authorities. He can't force her to leave. Only his actions are under his control, not hers or those of the authorities.

[panamania79 2]

To make a long story short, I want her sent back asap. I dont have the money to send her back right away. I dont feel that she deserves even an extended vacation here at the costs that this has already brought to me. Its going to be two months before I can get a ticket for her to go back. Can I just call immigration and they come and get her? Maybe they can bill me? What can I do to get her on a plane back to her home country as soon as possible???

That's messed up !

[diadromous mermaid 36]

You aren't sending back bad food at a diner...THIS IS A HUMAN BEING FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!!!

You make me sick.

Well, that could be argued. Apparently, the OP believes she is a bad apple. OP, if you have chat logs that she has deceived you in order to gain residency, save them, and make contact with ICE to inform them that you will not be proceeding with her immigration process, for reasons as detailed in the attached chat logs.

From the O/P "How can I send her back"...

#######-this isn't a defective DVD player!!! You can't just "send back" and there is NO warranty period! ####### do you think YOU are????

Ok, the relationship has gone bad...and YOUR reaction [ and main concern, seemingly] is " send her back..." damn....#######?

She has used him for residency purposes. It is his right to make sure she does not deceive the US government or any other person, no?

Well, he's within his rights to take steps with that in mind but the "making sure" is going to be up to the authorities. He can't force her to leave. Only his actions are under his control, not hers or those of the authorities.

Yes, indeed. The "making sure" was in reference to him exercising his right and to some extent his obligation to alert ICE of her malintentions, if he she has been so foolish to put them to paper. What will be done from that point in is in ICE's hands.

[panamania79 2]

No offenses either but thoses cases are i think expected when for example you have 25 yrs difference or someone really heavy with a tiny young adult all cute and fancy from poorer countries.

I do not know what is your situation.

I saw some picts on the gallery that sometime..... i wonder about the honnesty of all that.

I wonder about that also.

[philip2000 0]

Why did you petition her if you can't even afford a ticket for her return? Petitioning a Foreigner cost lots of money, as Petitioner YOU are responsible for taking care of her needs while she is in America. If a Guy can't afford to take care of her basic needs, then he shouldn't petition her.

[CraigCam 0]

You aren't sending back bad food at a diner...THIS IS A HUMAN BEING FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!!!

You make me sick.

This is exactly what my reaction was when I first read this topic, but I later read the OP's second post and I changed my opinion. IF what the OP is saying is true and his fiancee has deceived him in order to gain entry into this country, then she is the one who should be labeled 'sick' and 'disgusting'. People like that are the exact reason why so many of us here are having to endure the emotional hardships that we are.

If true, then not only did she commit fraud, but did so with a total disregard for the feelings of another human being. I would hope that she would be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and permanently banned from entering the US again. I can't imagine how I would feel if I found out that my fiancee had been lying to me all along.

All we know about this case is what little the OP has chosen to tell us, so, I will refrain from making any judgements.

To the OP: If this is your second K1 gone bad, please, try to learn from your mistakes. You are making us all look bad.

[TinTin and Samby 11]

Man, I see an awful lot of hatred beig spewed in this topic. The "moral superiority" of some of these repliers makes me want to vomit! People's you dont know the situation. The guy is asking for info. Is that not what this board is for? Check all that "judgemental attitude" at the damn door!

-Samby

Edited March 17, 2008 by TinTin and Samby

[melusine 5]

You aren't sending back bad food at a diner...THIS IS A HUMAN BEING FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!!!

You make me sick.

This is exactly what my reaction was when I first read this topic, but I later read the OP's second post and I changed my opinion. IF what the OP is saying is true and his fiancee has deceived him in order to gain entry into this country, then she is the one who should be labeled 'sick' and 'disgusting'. People like that are the exact reason why so many of us here are having to endure the emotional hardships that we are.

If true, then not only did she commit fraud, but did so with a total disregard for the feelings of another human being. I would hope that she would be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and permanently banned from entering the US again. I can't imagine how I would feel if I found out that my fiancee had been lying to me all along.

All we know about this case is what little the OP has chosen to tell us, so, I will refrain from making any judgements.

To the OP: If this is your second K1 gone bad, please, try to learn from your mistakes. You are making us all look bad.

I agree too (still the ... how can i send her back wasn't so smart....)

[ga1jin 0]

All we know about this case is what little the OP has chosen to tell us, so, I will refrain from making any judgements.

Well said.

[~Laura and Nick~ 5]

Man, I see an awful lot of hatred beig spewed in this topic. The "moral superiority" of some of these repliers makes me want to vomit! People's you dont know the situation. The guy is asking for info. Is that not what this board is for? Check all that "judgemental attitude" at the damn door!

-Samby

Sorry but I'm unable to do that.

This site IS personal....I can't be supportive and just say "Sorry about your luck!" when I feel so strongly on a subject.

It sucks this happened and I agree...if she really did do this, shame on her.

If not, well the rest speaks for itself.

I agree with CraigCam as well.

At first this was all the information I had and I reacted to it, then I saw the second post about the scam, etc.

Still, no matter what this person has done, they are still a human being, you can't just ship her back like she's damaged merchandise you ordered from a store, doesn't work that way.

[diadromous mermaid 36]

At first this was all the information I had and I reacted to it, then I saw the second post about the scam, etc.

Still, no matter what this person has done, they are still a human being, you can't just ship her back like she's damaged merchandise you ordered from a store, doesn't work that way.[/color]

How does it work, Laura? The issue is that if she has conned an American citizen to gain entry to this country, how would you propose to reverse the situation? Do you believe she should remain?

[~Laura and Nick~ 5]

At first this was all the information I had and I reacted to it, then I saw the second post about the scam, etc.

Still, no matter what this person has done, they are still a human being, you can't just ship her back like she's damaged merchandise you ordered from a store, doesn't work that way.[/color]

How does it work, Laura? The issue is that if she has conned an American citizen to gain entry to this country, how would you propose to reverse the situation? Do you believe she should remain?

I don't know what should be done, I don't think she can be "sent back" and him possibly get billed for it later.

It just seems so...cold.

Have they talked about it?

How about open communication?

How about finding out the truth instead of simply relying on seeing some chat logs to friends.

The OP has given such little information, perhaps I shouldn't have commented but it upset me to see those words.

Until the OP comes back with further information I'll just keep my mouth shut.

I guess it boils down to me not understanding how people can ask someone to marry them when they hardly know them at all.

Edited March 17, 2008 by ~Laura and Nick~

[diadromous mermaid 36]

At first this was all the information I had and I reacted to it, then I saw the second post about the scam, etc.

Still, no matter what this person has done, they are still a human being, you can't just ship her back like she's damaged merchandise you ordered from a store, doesn't work that way.[/color]

How does it work, Laura? The issue is that if she has conned an American citizen to gain entry to this country, how would you propose to reverse the situation? Do you believe she should remain?

I don't know what should be done, I don't think she can be "sent back" and him possibly get billed for it later.

It just seems so...cold.

Have they talked about it?

How about open communication?

How about finding out the truth instead of simply relying on seeing some chat logs to friends.

The OP has given such little information, perhaps I shouldn't have commented but it upset me to see those words.

Until the OP comes back with further information I'll just keep my mouth shut.

I guess it boils down to me not understanding how people can ask someone to marry them when they hardly know them at all.

I am being a devil's advocat now, I know, but do you really think that an individual that is so cold-hearted as to deceive another person into falling in love with her and taking the steps to and bring her to another country to marry, would actually tell the "truth" if confronted?

I could perhaps accept your position if this was a case of hearsay or a suspicion, but information conveyed in chat logs to friends is hard to overlook, no? Talk about a smoking gun....

[Chica Yeyé 41]

At first this was all the information I had and I reacted to it, then I saw the second post about the scam, etc.

Still, no matter what this person has done, they are still a human being, you can't just ship her back like she's damaged merchandise you ordered from a store, doesn't work that way.[/color]

How does it work, Laura? The issue is that if she has conned an American citizen to gain entry to this country, how would you propose to reverse the situation? Do you believe she should remain?

I don't know what should be done, I don't think she can be "sent back" and him possibly get billed for it later.

It just seems so...cold.

Have they talked about it?

How about open communication?

How about finding out the truth instead of simply relying on seeing some chat logs to friends.

The OP has given such little information, perhaps I shouldn't have commented but it upset me to see those words.

Until the OP comes back with further information I'll just keep my mouth shut.

I guess it boils down to me not understanding how people can ask someone to marry them when they hardly know them at all.

It doesn't SEEM cold Lau, it IS cold.

But some folks on VJ seem to think that you can dispose of foreign peoples like you discard old socks -- more power to them.

"Can they bill me for it?" I'm sorry man, but your language is more telling than what you tell us she has done.

Peace out.

[diadromous mermaid 36]

At first this was all the information I had and I reacted to it, then I saw the second post about the scam, etc.

Still, no matter what this person has done, they are still a human being, you can't just ship her back like she's damaged merchandise you ordered from a store, doesn't work that way.[/color]

How does it work, Laura? The issue is that if she has conned an American citizen to gain entry to this country, how would you propose to reverse the situation? Do you believe she should remain?

I don't know what should be done, I don't think she can be "sent back" and him possibly get billed for it later.

It just seems so...cold.

Have they talked about it?

How about open communication?

How about finding out the truth instead of simply relying on seeing some chat logs to friends.

The OP has given such little information, perhaps I shouldn't have commented but it upset me to see those words.

Until the OP comes back with further information I'll just keep my mouth shut.

I guess it boils down to me not understanding how people can ask someone to marry them when they hardly know them at all.

It doesn't SEEM cold Lau, it IS cold.

But some folks on VJ seem to think that you can dispose of foreign peoples like you discard old socks -- more power to them.

"Can they bill me for it?" I'm sorry man, but your language is more telling than what you tell us she has done.

Peace out.

This is ridiculous! The OP suggested that he didn't have the money right now. He isn't shirking his repsonsibility. Give him some slack, people!

And if it is true that this woman deceived him into a relationship for immigrant benefit alone, she is breaking immigration law. Does she deserve more consideration that the "host" or "victim" she preyed upon?