How much do you really know about your MENA man?

[RAKASA 0]

...slowly weaning self from lexapro 10mg...to 5mg...to 2.5 mg......

not to self: BLACK licorice

jackie

that's the herb, not the candy...

[morocco4ever 63]

Awww man, you just ruined my day!

[amal 4]

nooooooooooooooooo doods! Lexapro kills the sex drive worse than depression!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

try cinnamon....nuts...........fish............chocolate......but NOT lexapro! lol (and those aphrodisiacs, not all together silly, one at a time )

jJ

edited to add: Only the original poster can stop the madness of this thread by asking the door be closed on it. I can see this one going on for a month like this.

also....the typing for two.....is by far the most memorable thing I have read in this thread.

Not really. Paxil kills the sex drive. Lexapro just makes it so there's never a happy ending.

I hear black licorice is a natural remedy.

A natural remedy for depression?

a natural alternative to viagra

...slowly weaning self from lexapro 10mg...to 5mg...to 2.5 mg......

not to self: BLACK licorice

jackie

Black licorice huh? *runs to the store frantically stocking up on the nasty black chit*

and Jackie, from a professional in pharmacy to a great friend, please don't wean urself off that stuff yet unless ur doc recommends it. I really don't think now is a good time to do that... U could really hinder urself more than help if u go off of it before ur brain is ready to.

TammySue, Can you come to yahoo messenger 2nite? I have something I wanna talk to you about that I think might help.

amal

[doodlebugg 10]

no it really is the candy!!!! My brother stocks up on it weekly!!!

[aya*abouelnasr 0]

I love you all to death!

Watch out for the black liquorice candy, to much can elevate your blood pressure and cause heart palpitations.

Amal, I have work tonight, but am off tomorrow(Wed + Thurs), would love to chat. I always get good guidance from you.

[Imua 0]

no it really is the candy!!!! My brother stocks up on it weekly!!!

Probably best if it's those bitter Italian licorice drops - an acquired taste but they have more actual licorice than the candy does.

[morocco4ever 63]

Black licorice makes me think of my mother...she loved it. I miss her.

[Ban Hammer 13,112]

Black licorice makes me think of my mother...she loved it. I miss her.

black licorice always made me think of a goodyear tire - bleh

i'd rather have the red vines though

[RAKASA 0]

Black licorice makes me think of my mother...she loved it. I miss her.

black licorice always made me think of a goodyear tire - bleh

i'd rather have the red vines though

mmmmmmmmmmmm.... bring on the red vines, charles!!! YUM!

[SandyNJack 5]

Black licorice makes me think of my mother...she loved it. I miss her.

black licorice always made me think of a goodyear tire - bleh

i'd rather have the red vines though

Now your talking!!!!!!!!!!

[Ban Hammer 13,112]

Black licorice makes me think of my mother...she loved it. I miss her.

black licorice always made me think of a goodyear tire - bleh

i'd rather have the red vines though

mmmmmmmmmmmm.... bring on the red vines, charles!!! YUM!

[ennimies=My_power 0]

Wahrania, as much as I appreciate you being my champion in all of this, this bashing of one another has to stop. Most people have spoken out with support of me, some question my motives, some want to know the rest of the story. But,the bashing, the name calling, the vindictiveness, has got to stop. PLEASE!!!

Yes, there is another side of this story, in fact, there are two sides. His, and my sons. I can't tell you his, but I can tell you at least part of my sons side. He is good to them, he is good with them. They don't have a lot to do with their real father, so this is all a new experience for them, and so far, it has been a good one. They don't see us fight, we don't fight. They don't know, or realize that us not sleeping together is an issue, they have never seen me in this type of relationship before. My husband has never lifted a hand to any of them to strike them in anger or retaliation, and believe me, my sons are a handful. Instead he talks to them and tries to teach them the responsibilities of their actions lie within themselves. My sons have thrived on this attention, have gained from having a "father" in the house that pays attention to them. He is good to them and for that I am extremely thankful.

Never once has he lifted a hand in anger towards me, I have never felt physically threatened by him. There have been times that our arguments have been so heated and things have been said by me that even I was shocked to hear, and never once has he threatened me.

Once, he pointed out to me that I always talk about his "bad", but never see my own. The night we had our "talk" I asked him to elaborate on this for me. The only thing he told me was that I was very quick to become angry, and that when I was angry I don't listen. It's true, that is me in a nutshell.

When I look back on the last few months since my husband arrived here, I see so many negative things that have happened that could have affected him adversely. Not only is he seperated from his family, but I have lost my mother. That sunk me into a deep dark depression and an emotional breakdown. I cannot begin to imagine how that may have affected him, but when I think of how I would feel were the situation reversed, I can see how scared he must have felt. To be in a new country without a job, without friends or family and watching your spouse spiral downwards, having to hold everything together....Looking back, I realized that this was when the troubles started. Making love to a crazy person doesn't sound appealing to me either. I guess there is the possibiltiy he is holding onto his money in case there is a repeat of my depression and he has to support the boys on that money. He could have so easily ran when all this was happening to me, but he didn't. He was my strength then, he helped me out of that dark place, talked to me, showed me how much I had to live for, held me when I cried for hours at a time, kept the boys on the straight and narrow.

When we had our "talk" the other night, I think we covered all the bases of what has been happening. I brought up our age difference of almost 20 years. He said, "Tammy, the Prophet Mohammad married a woman older than he, if it was good enough for Mohammad, then why should we question it. I married you for your heart, not for your age".

Now, the message I wanted to get across, but seems lost in the quagmire, was simply this. Try to know them as much as you possibly can before you marry, go thru the visa process, and bring them here. Don't be afraid to ask questions, learn from them what you want and need to know. Don't wait to find out that after over a year or longer, you are still basically strangers who are married to each other. Make sure you are strong enough to accept what might happen, make sure he is what you really, trully want. Getting the visa is a game we play with the government, to a point. Don't win the game and lose the prize.

And, to make another point. Even though my husbands intentions have not been made clear yet, he is still my husband. It hurts me to see him called names that I would never use towards another womans husband. He is my husband and the only father my sons have ever known, please don't reduce that to something other than what it is. Maybe some won't understand how I can still make this statement, but that is neither here nor there. I hope most can understand.

That makes it more tragic .He is the only father these kids have known...Please Tammy for their sake,end this and find a "father" for them,someone who maybe has kids and loves you.He may not be younger and gorgeous,he may be some local guy..but for the love of god....dont let those kids see this..They had no daddy...I know its been hard....but you deserve a man who sleeps with you,who loves and adores you ...I want to cry for so many reasons...Because they need so much love and stability and this kid though he was getting over on a vulnerable older woman....he wasnt counting on your mom dying...he wasnt counting on filling a lifetime worth of shoes..Please end this Tammy...its going to end up tragically and I am so sorry for those boys....they needed so much love....

this is really devastating...please Tammy.....tell your family what he is doing exactly...I am so so so sorry

Wharania,,,, Maybe Tammy's husband like to have sex when his mind well rested, and the studies shows that sex has more passion when we want it, and the only time to think and want sex is when our mind is well rested.

Why you taking sex as the scale to balance a relationship.

If its a situation about cheating ( even though cheating has alotof port to define it) and no matter what you sacrified to make him realize that what he is doing is Wrong, I will tell you leave him immediately. but I really dont like to judge anyone since I dont really know the real story.

WAHRANIA: Stay away from Moroccans because they dont like to be controlled(their pride is everything.... maybe some Algerian dont which made you gain that power you feel you have, I dont know how to describe your case, and do not generate, everyone has his own way of thinking and expressing their appreciation, if you are a proud American and protecting your follow American woman who married to MENA, then I will suggest to be a fair judge their good listener and try to help as much as you can from a positive way first and if there is no hope then suggest what can be best....

Tammy, some people need to feel lost so they can find the right way back, give him one last chance and get a paper and pen and list all what make you happy, include him in your list, ask him also to make a list on how he can be happy, if after that you guys dont feel that you fit each other make it a divorce, but a last chance better that always wondering.

Stay away from Wharania she will burn you, just kidding WAHRANIA I know behind that angry woman a soft one and using the angry side as a cover.

[ennimies=My_power 0]

Black licorice makes me think of my mother...she loved it. I miss her.

black licorice always made me think of a goodyear tire - bleh

i'd rather have the red vines though

Hey Charle are you tired from watching brazilian in the beach, Probably you are otherwise she is tired from you watching her

[Ban Hammer 13,112]

Black licorice makes me think of my mother...she loved it. I miss her.

black licorice always made me think of a goodyear tire - bleh

i'd rather have the red vines though

Hey Charle are you tired from watching brazilian in the beach, Probably you are otherwise she is tired from you watching her

Edited March 18, 2008 by charlesandnessa

[Ivanovo 0]

Wahrania, as much as I appreciate you being my champion in all of this, this bashing of one another has to stop. Most people have spoken out with support of me, some question my motives, some want to know the rest of the story. But,the bashing, the name calling, the vindictiveness, has got to stop. PLEASE!!!

Yes, there is another side of this story, in fact, there are two sides. His, and my sons. I can't tell you his, but I can tell you at least part of my sons side. He is good to them, he is good with them. They don't have a lot to do with their real father, so this is all a new experience for them, and so far, it has been a good one. They don't see us fight, we don't fight. They don't know, or realize that us not sleeping together is an issue, they have never seen me in this type of relationship before. My husband has never lifted a hand to any of them to strike them in anger or retaliation, and believe me, my sons are a handful. Instead he talks to them and tries to teach them the responsibilities of their actions lie within themselves. My sons have thrived on this attention, have gained from having a "father" in the house that pays attention to them. He is good to them and for that I am extremely thankful.

Never once has he lifted a hand in anger towards me, I have never felt physically threatened by him. There have been times that our arguments have been so heated and things have been said by me that even I was shocked to hear, and never once has he threatened me.

Once, he pointed out to me that I always talk about his "bad", but never see my own. The night we had our "talk" I asked him to elaborate on this for me. The only thing he told me was that I was very quick to become angry, and that when I was angry I don't listen. It's true, that is me in a nutshell.

When I look back on the last few months since my husband arrived here, I see so many negative things that have happened that could have affected him adversely. Not only is he seperated from his family, but I have lost my mother. That sunk me into a deep dark depression and an emotional breakdown. I cannot begin to imagine how that may have affected him, but when I think of how I would feel were the situation reversed, I can see how scared he must have felt. To be in a new country without a job, without friends or family and watching your spouse spiral downwards, having to hold everything together....Looking back, I realized that this was when the troubles started. Making love to a crazy person doesn't sound appealing to me either. I guess there is the possibiltiy he is holding onto his money in case there is a repeat of my depression and he has to support the boys on that money. He could have so easily ran when all this was happening to me, but he didn't. He was my strength then, he helped me out of that dark place, talked to me, showed me how much I had to live for, held me when I cried for hours at a time, kept the boys on the straight and narrow.

When we had our "talk" the other night, I think we covered all the bases of what has been happening. I brought up our age difference of almost 20 years. He said, "Tammy, the Prophet Mohammad married a woman older than he, if it was good enough for Mohammad, then why should we question it. I married you for your heart, not for your age".

Now, the message I wanted to get across, but seems lost in the quagmire, was simply this. Try to know them as much as you possibly can before you marry, go thru the visa process, and bring them here. Don't be afraid to ask questions, learn from them what you want and need to know. Don't wait to find out that after over a year or longer, you are still basically strangers who are married to each other. Make sure you are strong enough to accept what might happen, make sure he is what you really, trully want. Getting the visa is a game we play with the government, to a point. Don't win the game and lose the prize.

And, to make another point. Even though my husbands intentions have not been made clear yet, he is still my husband. It hurts me to see him called names that I would never use towards another womans husband. He is my husband and the only father my sons have ever known, please don't reduce that to something other than what it is. Maybe some won't understand how I can still make this statement, but that is neither here nor there. I hope most can understand.

That makes it more tragic .He is the only father these kids have known...Please Tammy for their sake,end this and find a "father" for them,someone who maybe has kids and loves you.He may not be younger and gorgeous,he may be some local guy..but for the love of god....dont let those kids see this..They had no daddy...I know its been hard....but you deserve a man who sleeps with you,who loves and adores you ...I want to cry for so many reasons...Because they need so much love and stability and this kid though he was getting over on a vulnerable older woman....he wasnt counting on your mom dying...he wasnt counting on filling a lifetime worth of shoes..Please end this Tammy...its going to end up tragically and I am so sorry for those boys....they needed so much love....

this is really devastating...please Tammy.....tell your family what he is doing exactly...I am so so so sorry

Wharania,,,, Maybe Tammy's husband like to have sex when his mind well rested, and the studies shows that sex has more passion when we want it, and the only time to think and want sex is when our mind is well rested.

Why you taking sex as the scale to balance a relationship.

If its a situation about cheating ( even though cheating has alotof port to define it) and no matter what you sacrified to make him realize that what he is doing is Wrong, I will tell you leave him immediately. but I really dont like to judge anyone since I dont really know the real story.

WAHRANIA: Stay away from Moroccans because they dont like to be controlled(their pride is everything.... maybe some Algerian dont which made you gain that power you feel you have, I dont know how to describe your case, and do not generate, everyone has his own way of thinking and expressing their appreciation, if you are a proud American and protecting your follow American woman who married to MENA, then I will suggest to be a fair judge their good listener and try to help as much as you can from a positive way first and if there is no hope then suggest what can be best....

Tammy, some people need to feel lost so they can find the right way back, give him one last chance and get a paper and pen and list all what make you happy, include him in your list, ask him also to make a list on how he can be happy, if after that you guys dont feel that you fit each other make it a divorce, but a last chance better that always wondering.

Stay away from Wharania she will burn you, just kidding WAHRANIA I know behind that angry woman a soft one and using the angry side as a cover.

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