How much do you really know about your MENA man?

[~Jackie~ 30]

violation of TOS---------- Some days more than others I wish I was a mod and not just an organizer.......of course I could always move ####### to an obscure corner of vj to collect dust....one can wish, huh?

Capn--make me mod of just MENA......laura and mags and william can have the rest ....just give me mena.....ah the power to make something invisible.....the ability to say 'stfu' in a nice way...... someday.....until then ....... keep beating each other up.

More words of wisdom from me to ya'll----you never know how your words will affect someone, negatively or positively, use them wisely. Please.

jJ

[KEK 0]

violation of TOS---------- Some days more than others I wish I was a mod and not just an organizer.......of course I could always move ####### to an obscure corner of vj to collect dust....one can wish, huh?

Capn--make me mod of just MENA......laura and mags and william can have the rest ....just give me mena.....ah the power to make something invisible.....the ability to say 'stfu' in a nice way...... someday.....until then ....... keep beating each other up.

More words of wisdom from me to ya'll----you never know how your words will affect someone, negatively or positively, use them wisely. Please.

jJ

Yay for Jackie We are all going through a lot of stress from our visas and other life situations. This is not a good way to take it out. I think it's better to make a point and let it stand, without letting it devolve into bashing. I love your piece of wisdom, it's so true,

Thanks

[morocco4ever 63]

I am sorry it has turned into this Tammy.

[Onlythistosay 0]

well i don't know You .. i am somewhat new here. but i am so sorrY for You to be going through this. u have to take care of urself and ur children.. and he if will not help.. he will onlY drag u down. good luck to u.. and hopefullY u will make ur choices for the right reasons. and thank You for the advice at the end of ur post.

shannon.

[Ihavequestions 419]

My hesitation marrying a MENA man?

The viciousness of the women they tend to attract.

This thread proves my point.

Tammy - Please accept my best wishes as you make your way through this time of trouble, no matter what you decide to do or why you decide to do it.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

My hesitation marrying a MENA man?

The viciousness of the women they tend to attract.

This thread proves my point.

Tammy - Please accept my best wishes as you make your way through this time of trouble, no matter what you decide to do or why you decide to do it.

Thanks God you're not one to join in the stereotyping.

[yaziedandlisa 0]

I AM READY TO TALK TO TAMMY HUSBAND IF SHE GAVE ME A PHONE NOMBER,,,, AND FOR EVERY1 I DID THAT TO WAHRANIA CUZ SHE STARTED TALKING ABOUT MOSQUES,,, AND I DONT SAY I AM WITH THAT GUY CUZ HE IS FROM MY COUNTRY!!! HE DID WRONG!! AND IF HE DIDNT LIKE USA THEN COME BACK TO UR FAMILY YA MAN!!! DONT WASTE THE WOMAN'S TIME AND UR TIME TOO... AND ITS BAD CHOICE TO SPEND ALL THAT TIME WAITING FOR PAPERS AND STUFF THEN DISAPPOINT UR WIFE AFTER ALL OF THAT!!

I AM READY TO TALK TO TAMMY HUSBAND IF SHE GAVE ME A PHONE NOMBER,,,, AND FOR EVERY1 I DID THAT TO WAHRANIA CUZ SHE STARTED TALKING ABOUT MOSQUES,,, AND I DONT SAY I AM WITH THAT GUY CUZ HE IS FROM MY COUNTRY!!! HE DID WRONG!! AND IF HE DIDNT LIKE USA THEN COME BACK TO UR FAMILY YA MAN!!! DONT WASTE THE WOMAN'S TIME AND UR TIME TOO... AND ITS BAD CHOICE TO SPEND ALL THAT TIME WAITING FOR PAPERS AND STUFF THEN DISAPPOINT UR WIFE AFTER ALL OF THAT!!

Its not about mosques....Its not about coffee shops..and it isnt about islam...He got here...he was nice to he is getting coached from other arabs about how to hurt her..You need to realise that this is not a reflection of you or online relationships...What this guy is doing...and what has been done to other women on the boards...look at just jackies posts who was hurt without reason after a 5 year marriage,left without goodbye and he plotted against her have become the norm over here.Deemabrouk...I agree I wish you would talk to him and tell him to go home to Jordan....He s going to put Tammy in the grave from depression and traumatise her kids...I wish Jordanians like you would discourage greencard fraud....I wish you would speak out against it.....Its against Islam and unfortunately,these men make it here and get coached by other arabs who have also done it how to succeed......You need to read all of just jackies post....then go back andcarefully read all of tammys posts...and decide if you would want your wifes sister put through this...greencard fraud hurts kids,american women and its illegal

I AM GONNA GO BACK AND SAY I AM SORRY FOR TAMMY SO MUCH,,, I FEEL SHAMEFUL OF MY COUNTRY BOYZ IF THEY DO THAT AND GAVES A GREAT BAD IDEA ABOUT US AND ABOUT OUR ISLAM... MY WIFE IS MY HONOR.. KEEPING IS KEEPING MY HONOR AND HER KIDS ARE MINE... MY WIFE HAS ONE KID ,, LOVELY 4 YO BOY... I AM 21 AND LOOKS YOUNGEST ON THIS WEBSITE... BUT MY LIFE4 EXPERINCE IS LIKE 81 YEARS OLD... CUZ I AM ON THIS LIFE ,, THE REAL LIFE SINCE I WAS 13,, WORKING AND MAKING MY LIFE... AND THANX PRETTY MUCH FOR MY DAD AND MOM ... AND FYI I FINISHED MY HIGH SCHOOL STUDIES ON MY OWN!! SO I AM MATURE ENOUGH TO APPERCITE EVERYTHING MY WIFE'S DO TO ME...

WHAT BETWEEN ME AND MY WIFE IS THE MARRAIGE CONTRACT!! WITENSSED BY CLOSE PPL OF MY FAMILY, MY DEAR UNCLE AND MY YOUNGER BROTHER,, I WILL EVER NEVER DISAPPOINT THEM TOO AND SAY: I LEFT MY WIFE,,, CUZ ALL OF MY FAMILY LOVES MY WIFE SO MUCH.,.. AND THEY KEEP TALKING GOOD THINGS ABOUT HER AS SHE WAS HERE YESTERDAY NOT 2 MONTHS AGO!!!

AND I WOULD MAKE ANYTHING I CAN DO TO HELP TAMMY... AND TALK TO HER HUSBAND.. AND I NEED TO HEAR FROM THE OTHER PERSON TOO TO KNOW WHAT HAPPEND FOR REAL!

Hayati, Waharania and Tammy

It is very clear how things get so complicated when we think that some people talking about a situation without knowing the cultural root for MENA men or in general Arabic Muslim men,

Tammy I totally understand your husband feeling and his reaction but lets be honest and stop a second, have you asked your self if you over reacted? did you ask your self if you missjudging your husband? I dont want to put all the blame on you or on him but am building my thought based on all your posts and other memebers posts,

Me as a Moroccan experiencing living in the US and now let me make something clear for you all,

Most of the women here think that because of them the MENA start to live (oh please)!!!

Most of you all think that we were in DARK untill we come to the US? OHHH wait lets stop a second and bring reality here.

to buy a chicken 6 IBs in Morocco is $ 2 here is over 20 and its frozen god knows when that chiken was killed and how!!!

even if you make 50 $ an hour it is not going to be enough living the way you want to live! so who have from you all a perfect Credit report 1 % ,2 %,

and another hurtful truth, American men they dont want women who have a bad credit right ???!!! some of you guys are very demanding, 60 % the are not looking for men because they need men, but they need help to survive, they need someone to count on!!! And here how the issues get devolopped before the EAD arrives!!! Am I making sense???!!! Yes I know the truth hurt and if somebody want to attack me am ready. Am here to make a stop to putting your men down, I'm here to tell you all, be proud of your hubbies so they can be proud of you, make them your king because they already made you their queens, make them feel lucky that they have you, GreenCard forget about it America is still making lottery for people to win GreenCard so dont comapre your self as a lottery game, its just a word that start destroying marriages, by jumping from story to another.

What a racist.

Hyatti, Thank You for being a good Arabian ( al moslimon Ikhwa) and no need for you to collect 1000 person to suspend Waharnia account, I think she got the message. God bless you and your marriage.

Dear Tammy, If you dont want your husband anymore please let me talk to him to provide for him all what he need untill he leave to go back to his dearest country.

Just a Reminder: Maybe he didnt want to help you wth the money he got because he wanted to buy cigarette and not feel like a baby askig to buy a candy. ( ........... ).

And one more things to Correct everyone >>>> You all dont know What is happening between the two of them, she can work it out for her self. Do not talk like your marriage is so perfect one day you will be in the same position and you will be hoping to hear just some good advices to make your marriage work.

WAHRANIA : I have nothing against you but if you have a little knowledge about Islam you will know the age doesn't matter as long as it is based on respecting and caring and loving each other. As the messenger mohammed married Khadija that she was in her 40's and he was in 20's.

I do feel really sorry for your previous marriages and I hope this marriage last as long as you want it. Wish you all MENA wives all the luck in your marriage and full of happiness.

incha allah

man i never been friendly with anyone... lol... but thanx ya brother for the support..

[sarahaziz 0]

Wahrania, as much as I appreciate you being my champion in all of this, this bashing of one another has to stop. Most people have spoken out with support of me, some question my motives, some want to know the rest of the story. But,the bashing, the name calling, the vindictiveness, has got to stop. PLEASE!!!

Yes, there is another side of this story, in fact, there are two sides. His, and my sons. I can't tell you his, but I can tell you at least part of my sons side. He is good to them, he is good with them. They don't have a lot to do with their real father, so this is all a new experience for them, and so far, it has been a good one. They don't see us fight, we don't fight. They don't know, or realize that us not sleeping together is an issue, they have never seen me in this type of relationship before. My husband has never lifted a hand to any of them to strike them in anger or retaliation, and believe me, my sons are a handful. Instead he talks to them and tries to teach them the responsibilities of their actions lie within themselves. My sons have thrived on this attention, have gained from having a "father" in the house that pays attention to them. He is good to them and for that I am extremely thankful.

Never once has he lifted a hand in anger towards me, I have never felt physically threatened by him. There have been times that our arguments have been so heated and things have been said by me that even I was shocked to hear, and never once has he threatened me.

Once, he pointed out to me that I always talk about his "bad", but never see my own. The night we had our "talk" I asked him to elaborate on this for me. The only thing he told me was that I was very quick to become angry, and that when I was angry I don't listen. It's true, that is me in a nutshell.

When I look back on the last few months since my husband arrived here, I see so many negative things that have happened that could have affected him adversely. Not only is he seperated from his family, but I have lost my mother. That sunk me into a deep dark depression and an emotional breakdown. I cannot begin to imagine how that may have affected him, but when I think of how I would feel were the situation reversed, I can see how scared he must have felt. To be in a new country without a job, without friends or family and watching your spouse spiral downwards, having to hold everything together....Looking back, I realized that this was when the troubles started. Making love to a crazy person doesn't sound appealing to me either. I guess there is the possibiltiy he is holding onto his money in case there is a repeat of my depression and he has to support the boys on that money. He could have so easily ran when all this was happening to me, but he didn't. He was my strength then, he helped me out of that dark place, talked to me, showed me how much I had to live for, held me when I cried for hours at a time, kept the boys on the straight and narrow.

When we had our "talk" the other night, I think we covered all the bases of what has been happening. I brought up our age difference of almost 20 years. He said, "Tammy, the Prophet Mohammad married a woman older than he, if it was good enough for Mohammad, then why should we question it. I married you for your heart, not for your age".

Now, the message I wanted to get across, but seems lost in the quagmire, was simply this. Try to know them as much as you possibly can before you marry, go thru the visa process, and bring them here. Don't be afraid to ask questions, learn from them what you want and need to know. Don't wait to find out that after over a year or longer, you are still basically strangers who are married to each other. Make sure you are strong enough to accept what might happen, make sure he is what you really, trully want. Getting the visa is a game we play with the government, to a point. Don't win the game and lose the prize.

And, to make another point. Even though my husbands intentions have not been made clear yet, he is still my husband. It hurts me to see him called names that I would never use towards another womans husband. He is my husband and the only father my sons have ever known, please don't reduce that to something other than what it is. Maybe some won't understand how I can still make this statement, but that is neither here nor there. I hope most can understand.

I pray This might start into a beautiful love story :star: God bless you guys and my opinion soo happy you talked things out and cleared misunderstandings.

[Nasturtium 500]

My hesitation marrying a MENA man?

The viciousness of the women they tend to attract.

This thread proves my point.

Tammy - Please accept my best wishes as you make your way through this time of trouble, no matter what you decide to do or why you decide to do it.

Thanks God you're not one to join in the stereotyping.

Possible candidate for best one-liner of the day, #2.

[doodlebugg 10]

nooooooooooooooooo doods! Lexapro kills the sex drive worse than depression!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

try cinnamon....nuts...........fish............chocolate......but NOT lexapro! lol (and those aphrodisiacs, not all together silly, one at a time )

jJ

edited to add: Only the original poster can stop the madness of this thread by asking the door be closed on it. I can see this one going on for a month like this.

also....the typing for two.....is by far the most memorable thing I have read in this thread.

Not really. Paxil kills the sex drive. Lexapro just makes it so there's never a happy ending.

I hear black licorice is a natural remedy.

[Jenn! 918]

nooooooooooooooooo doods! Lexapro kills the sex drive worse than depression!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

try cinnamon....nuts...........fish............chocolate......but NOT lexapro! lol (and those aphrodisiacs, not all together silly, one at a time )

jJ

edited to add: Only the original poster can stop the madness of this thread by asking the door be closed on it. I can see this one going on for a month like this.

also....the typing for two.....is by far the most memorable thing I have read in this thread.

Not really. Paxil kills the sex drive. Lexapro just makes it so there's never a happy ending.

I hear black licorice is a natural remedy.

A natural remedy for depression?

[doodlebugg 10]

nooooooooooooooooo doods! Lexapro kills the sex drive worse than depression!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

try cinnamon....nuts...........fish............chocolate......but NOT lexapro! lol (and those aphrodisiacs, not all together silly, one at a time )

jJ

edited to add: Only the original poster can stop the madness of this thread by asking the door be closed on it. I can see this one going on for a month like this.

also....the typing for two.....is by far the most memorable thing I have read in this thread.

Not really. Paxil kills the sex drive. Lexapro just makes it so there's never a happy ending.

I hear black licorice is a natural remedy.

A natural remedy for depression?

a natural alternative to viagra

[Ban Hammer 13,112]

i'm amazed this is still going on.

[ya falaha! 0]

Prozac prevents happy endings, also.

[~Jackie~ 30]

...slowly weaning self from lexapro 10mg...to 5mg...to 2.5 mg......

not to self: BLACK licorice

jackie