Angry with these protests

[terri o'neale 0]

But let me also remind you, it behooves ALL OF US ON THIS SITE to fight for immigrant rights--because believe it or not, it would more likely speed up the process for us who are legally filing if visas and work permits work EASIER to obtain. And once our spouses are here, perhaps the employment world will be a bit less discriminating--this may not be easy for those to understand who are married to spouses from developed countries who speak fluent English, who have a high education, or who have no accent...it is different being married to someone from a developing country--trust me.

...Actually...it will hurt all of us that are doing it the right way. They want to provide amensity for 10 million people. But they don't include money in the bills to hire more personnel to cope with that surge of applications. So guess what? ALL of OUR applications get slowed down. And we have to deal with over-worked under-paid USCIS caseworkers that are at the end of their ropes. And all those people that were against the law won't make a distinction between our loved ones that came here legally and waited and endured these hardships and the ones who didn't. So it will make it harder for them to find jobs and to make tyhe adjustment. Consider that.

Terri O'Neale

[sparkofcreation 0]

Many of our ancestors may have simply arrived here without going through government channels, became hard-working citizens, et cetera. But they didn't arrive in such numbers that a single group changed the demographics drastically. That's an issue here in northern New Jersey, and one that's hard to broach without being accused of racism.

You're kidding, right? You live in Northern New Jersey and have somehow failed to notice that a quarter of the population is of Italian descent? How precisely do you think it got that way?

Edited April 30, 2006 by sparkofcreation

[gwenneh 7]

Er...yes. And Irish, with occasional pockets of Eastern Europeans too.

[eric&gen 0]

If they dont like it here than they can go back home. It is not fair to us tax payers to support the lazy ones that take advanage of the wearfare system like WIC foodstamps medicare etc that should be only for the you know whos that really need help. The you know whos that actually work and dont take advanage of the system should get to stay but the you know whos that are lazy and wont work should be deported. It makes me sick i see it every day i work in a major grocery chain .

[gwenneh 7]

Why is there no work-to-settlement visa option in the US? I must be missing something here.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

But let me also remind you, it behooves ALL OF US ON THIS SITE to fight for immigrant rights--because believe it or not, it would more likely speed up the process for us who are legally filing if visas and work permits work EASIER to obtain.

I am all for immigrant rights. The folks that came here illegally, or overstayed their non-immigrant visa and take up employment illegally often stealing someone's idendity to do so are NOT immigrants. Their ####### has NOTHING to do with immigrant rights. Nothing.

It would behoove all of us to keep this straight.

Edited May 1, 2006 by ET-US2004

[gwenneh 7]

But let me also remind you, it behooves ALL OF US ON THIS SITE to fight for immigrant rights--because believe it or not, it would more likely speed up the process for us who are legally filing if visas and work permits work EASIER to obtain.

I am all for immigrant rights. The folks that came here illegally, or overstayed their non-immigrant visa and take up employment illegally often stealing someone's idendity to do so are NOT immigrants. Their ####### has NOTHING to do with immigrant rights. Nothing.

It would behoove all of us to keep this straight.

Do you think there should be no legal channel for these people to come live and work here, though?

[Fuzzness 2]

But let me also remind you, it behooves ALL OF US ON THIS SITE to fight for immigrant rights--because believe it or not, it would more likely speed up the process for us who are legally filing if visas and work permits work EASIER to obtain.

I am all for immigrant rights. The folks that came here illegally, or overstayed their non-immigrant visa and take up employment illegally often stealing someone's idendity to do so are NOT immigrants. Their ####### has NOTHING to do with immigrant rights. Nothing.

It would behoove all of us to keep this straight.

took you long enough! (to comment that is)

[Jersey Girl 2]

You live in Northern New Jersey and have somehow failed to notice that a quarter of the population is of Italian descent?

Didn't the majority of Italians come at the same time as the Irish, Germans, etc., at the turn of the last century? Point is, there was more of a mix, and we're not seeing that now.

Why is there no work-to-settlement visa option in the US?

Could be a solution. Provided people would come forward to participate. Does it exist anywhere else in the world?

[gwenneh 7]

Could be a solution. Provided people would come forward to participate. Does it exist anywhere else in the world?

Absolutely. There are several options for work-to-settlement here in the UK, and they just made it even more straightforward by introducing the Highly Skilled Migrant Programme. You can work in the UK and apply for Leave to Remain. As long as you remain "economically active", that is, working and paying taxes, you can apply to remain permanently.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

But let me also remind you, it behooves ALL OF US ON THIS SITE to fight for immigrant rights--because believe it or not, it would more likely speed up the process for us who are legally filing if visas and work permits work EASIER to obtain.

I am all for immigrant rights. The folks that came here illegally, or overstayed their non-immigrant visa and take up employment illegally often stealing someone's idendity to do so are NOT immigrants. Their ####### has NOTHING to do with immigrant rights. Nothing.

It would behoove all of us to keep this straight.

Do you think there should be no legal channel for these people to come live and work here, though?

There should be an assessment of how many workers of varying qualifications are needed in the US. There should be a sufficient number of visa available worldwide to meet the needs of the economy. I do not believe that special treatment ought to be afforded to those that snuck across the land border. They should be given a window of opportunity to leave so they may apply for one of the available visa back home. Give it two years and then crack down seriously on employers and employees still breaking the laws. Those employers caught pay stiff fines (the kind that takes you out of business) and those in charge go to prison. The emloyees are fingerprinted and taken back to the point of entry and released back into the place where they came from with no chance to ever return.

Get the visa out there, give some adjustment time and then get serious and see the issue work itself out.

Edited May 1, 2006 by ET-US2004

[gwenneh 7]

But let me also remind you, it behooves ALL OF US ON THIS SITE to fight for immigrant rights--because believe it or not, it would more likely speed up the process for us who are legally filing if visas and work permits work EASIER to obtain.

I am all for immigrant rights. The folks that came here illegally, or overstayed their non-immigrant visa and take up employment illegally often stealing someone's idendity to do so are NOT immigrants. Their ####### has NOTHING to do with immigrant rights. Nothing.

It would behoove all of us to keep this straight.

Do you think there should be no legal channel for these people to come live and work here, though?

There should be an assessment of how many workers of varying qualifications are needed in the US. There should be a sufficient number of visa available worldwide to meet the needs of the economy. I do not believe that special treatment ought to be afforded to those that snuck across the land border. They should be given a window of opportunity to leave so they may apply for one of the available visa back home. Give it two years and then crack down seriously n employers and employees still breaking the laws. Those employers caught pay stiff fines (the kind that takes you out of business) and those in charge go to prison. The emloyees are fingerprinted and taken back to the point of entry and released back into the place where they came with no chance to ever return.

Get the visa out there, give some adjustment time and then get serious and see the issue work itself out.

Fair enough!

[terri o'neale 0]

Well...I did all that I can. I sent emails to both my senators and my congress person.

Terri P O'Neale

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

People who call other people 'racist' because they disagree with illegal immigration should be beaten with a sock full of pennies.

[sparkofcreation 0]

You live in Northern New Jersey and have somehow failed to notice that a quarter of the population is of Italian descent?

Didn't the majority of Italians come at the same time as the Irish, Germans, etc., at the turn of the last century? Point is, there was more of a mix, and we're not seeing that now.

Of course we are. We're seeing Mexicans, Cubans, Dominicans, Hondurans, Ecuadorans, Uruguayans, Guatemalans ... believe me, I worked as a Spanish interpreter in northern New Jersey for years and no one country made up more than a quarter of my caseload. Or does that not count because they're all Latin American? And if not, why do you then count Italians, Irish and Germans as separate groups? After all, they're all European.

The Irish mostly emigrated to the US in the mid-1800s during the potato famine; the Germans in much less-concentrated numbers during the mid-1800s through early 1900s; and the Italians in the first two decades of the 1900s. So no, in fact, the majority of Italians did not come at the same time as the Irish and Germans.

Edited May 1, 2006 by sparkofcreation