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Oh, goody.

Apparently not. He's buggered off.

The weird thing with Kaydee is that he makes these statements - but never really delves into the arguments behind them, or fleshes them out in more detail.

Apparently its enough simply to repeat the same old ####### over and over and over again.

The worst part is he thinks he's politically savvy in some way for keeping Fox on all day and repeating what Bill O'Reilly tells him to think. I shudder to think of how many other Americans like that are out there.

Or maybe the worst part is how he thinks having an African wife entitles him to call people who disagree with him "racist" when he's one of our most blatantly racist posters.

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Oh, goody.

Apparently not. He's buggered off.

The weird thing with Kaydee is that he makes these statements - but never really delves into the arguments behind them, or fleshes them out in more detail.

Apparently its enough simply to repeat the same old ####### over and over and over again.

The worst part is he thinks he's politically savvy in some way for keeping Fox on all day and repeating what Bill O'Reilly tells him to think. I shudder to think of how many other Americans like that are out there.

Or maybe the worst part is how he thinks having an African wife entitles him to call people who disagree with him "racist" when he's one of our most blatantly racist posters.

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Yeah - you can't be racist if you're in a relationship with a person of color. I'm not sure I understand the logic there. But then again - isn't such a statement racist in itself? Along with:

"I'm black, how can I be a racist". Which I have heard before.

There is a trick to that though - a person can apparently not be racist if they first bookend the racist comments with "I'm not a racist so I can say this" or something similar. It works for Michael Savage anyway. I listen to that guy for a laugh - though from the people who call into his show to comment, it seems they take him quite seriously and literally.

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I wouldn't say she was exactly racist - but her comments certainly were a bit stupid; and (given her experience) she should have known better rather than to inject race into the debate in such a way as to suggest that its a primary motivating factor in Obama's success. I don't think she had any business doing that IMO, nor did she make a point that had any factual (or authoritative) substance.

On one hand she suggested that BO reaching this point in the campaign race is to do with his race and media exposure, is a tad insulting - not only to BO, but to the voters who actually support his candidacy on policy issues.

On the other she undermined herself, and her own qualifications by suggesting that the only reason she was selected as a Vice-presidential candidate was because she is a woman. Does that strike anyone else as a bit weird?

Always blame someone else for opening yer trapper... that's not mature...

She's also overstating the importance, honesty or intelligence of her statements. Statements which were neither important, honest or intelligent.

I caught this one too!!! What is wrong with this woman? How can state....in a factual manner....that just because Barack is Black he is not qualified. God if this doesnt sound like the racist and prejudice issues that Blacks and many other minorities had to overcome is this country then I don't know what does. The thing is....it shows her and many other Americans true colors and thoughts on Blacks and minorites in the country. They are so obsessed with our race its ridiculous. If I worried about the next white woman or white man as much as they analyzed Blackness then I would have literally killed myself already.

I am a minority in this country and it would be seriously ridiculous for me or any minority to analyze Whites (the majority) the way they analyze us. I didn't anaylze the Whiteness of EVERY OTHER president canididate in all my years of living, so why do people analyze his Blackness?

It really saddens me that in this day and age in this country,people get all nervous anytime a minority tries to get ahead.I am also so tired of people turning it around and calling us racists everytime we defend ourselves from comments like these.

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Looks like I missed a fun thread!

Anyway, I guess the comment should be classified as racist...although I don't think it was motivated by racial hatred. I think it's quite clear that people vote for Barack because the hear something they want to hear from his speaches. People want change, he promises change, people want the troops home, Barack promises to bring them home, people want transparancy, Barack promises open goverment. He has a true gift for oratory and has used this gift to great advantage.

My big beef with him is quite simple, he appeals to people on the emotional level of an ideological leader and yet he's a career politician. How many ideological leaders spend time writing their autobiographies? Not too many, and yet Barack has so far produced two of the things and he isn't even 50 yet. We hear often how he has always apposed the Iraq war with the much quoted speach of 2002 as the center piece of this opposition. How many ideological leaders sit back and bask in the reflected glory of one speach when they truly believe in a cause?

This is just my opinion, of course and none of this means he would necessarily make a bad president but if I buy something, I like to make sure that what is inside is at least worth the price of the shiny paper it's packed in.

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There's a way for you to do that. Read his platform, check his voting record, and decide for yourself if you think he's telling the truth.

Then, if you really want to, keep reciting the same propaganda about how he's all show.

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I didn't say he was all show Alex, I said he is a career politician, not an idealist. I have read his stuff, he promises a lot, but he hasn't done as much as one would expect from an idealist. This is not propoganda, this is an opinion, my opinion. It doesn't have to be yours.

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I have put you on ignore. No really, I have, but you are still ruining my enjoyment of this site. .

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I didn't say he was all show Alex, I said he is a career politician, not an idealist. I have read his stuff, he promises a lot, but he hasn't done as much as one would expect from an idealist. This is not propoganda, this is an opinion, my opinion. It doesn't have to be yours.

:lol:

And how many times did he vote 'present' again?

And about that Iraq vote he loves to go on about, he wasn't even in the Senate then so he can preach all he wants but he has nothing to say about it.

Shiny paper, indeed. I hope the shine fades more before Apr 22.

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I didn't say he was all show Alex, I said he is a career politician, not an idealist. I have read his stuff, he promises a lot, but he hasn't done as much as one would expect from an idealist. This is not propoganda, this is an opinion, my opinion. It doesn't have to be yours.

I agree that he hasn't done much that I'd get excited about. But neither has Hillary. The only one with a record of taking meaningful action is McCain. And I disagree with him on nearly everything.

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It must be nice to be able to throw down the woe is me, I'm black card! The left loves to be able to preach the "I'm for the underdog" But when theres to underdogs (black guy) (woman) They eat each other up! With total disregard of the original pronouncement. It's known as the Eliot Spitzer syndrome. Do as I say and not what I do!

So So fkin obvious, but fck if any of you lefties will ever admit it. Your totally makin a joke of yourselves. :lol::luv::yes:

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Silence is sooooooo GOLDEN! :whistle:

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It must be nice to be able to throw down the woe is me, I'm black card! The left loves to be able to preach the "I'm for the underdog" But when theres to underdogs (black guy) (woman) They eat each other up! With total disregard of the original pronouncement. It's known as the Eliot Spitzer syndrome. Do as I say and not what I do!

So So fkin obvious, but fck if any of you lefties will ever admit it. Your totally makin a joke of yourselves. :lol::luv::yes:

U.S. politics is all about $hit-slinging no matter what position you take.

And the love that McCain is getting from the right (including right-wing "pundits" and commentators) is truly heartwarming. It should set an example for all.

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It must be nice to be able to throw down the woe is me, I'm black card! The left loves to be able to preach the "I'm for the underdog" But when theres to underdogs (black guy) (woman) They eat each other up! With total disregard of the original pronouncement. It's known as the Eliot Spitzer syndrome. Do as I say and not what I do!

So So fkin obvious, but fck if any of you lefties will ever admit it. Your totally makin a joke of yourselves. :lol::luv::yes:

U.S. politics is all about $hit-slinging no matter what position you take.

And the love that McCain is getting from the right (including right-wing "pundits" and commentators) is truly heartwarming. It should set an example for all.

I thought we were talking about the left side of things? Cmon, AOS. You should know better than to try to disuade from the subject. But very typical of one that is in denial of the subject at hand. It's just gonna get worse between the two of them. For the two of them to be preachin all that love and togetherness ####### really does say something about who and what they truly are, wouldnt you say? Put the guard down and come to grips whats REALLY goin on here. They both are experts at blowin SMOKE.

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(CNN) – Geraldine Ferraro has stepped down from her role as a member of Hillary Clinton's finance committee.

In a letter to Clinton obtained by CNN's Suzanne Malveaux — who spoke with the former vice presidential candidate shortly after she sent it to Clinton — Ferraro said she is stepping down so, "I can speak for myself and you can continue to speak for yourself about what is at stake in this campaign."

In a phone conversation with Malveaux, Ferraro said she was not asked to step down by Senator Clinton or her campaign.

Ferraro said thousands of people are part of the finance committee, saying it is not a staff position, but a voluntary one for those who raise money for the campaign. She also said she has raised $125,000 for Senator Clinton.

When asked if she had any regrets about what she said, Ferraro replied, "absolutely not."

"I am who I am and I will continue to speak up." She added that she thought it was a shame that the Obama campaign was trying to block her First Amendment rights, and that she felt that was no way to conduct a campaign.

She said, "it's not me slicing and dicing," a reference to Obama's comments earlier in the day accusing Ferraro of dividing the party.

Ferraro said David Axelrod, Obama's campaign manager and an acquaintance, should have called her to ask her the intention of her remarks, which she says the Obama campaign used to hurt Clinton.

When asked how she felt about Hillary Clinton distancing herself from her remarks, Ferraro replied, "I am perfectly fine," and that there were no hard feelings. She said she understands what Clinton is going through, and understands that being part of a presidential campaign is "very hard."

(Updated 6 p.m. ET with additional reporting.)

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That old tea bag hag, she needs to put on her DEPENDS and go to the rest home and enjoy her old wrinkle a$$ with a good game of shuffle board

Use ageism to combat "racism". Good strategy!

I'm not white and I agree with GF. She's said the same thing about herself for decades that she said about BO and she's right. Dems have been playing the race card, the gender card, the class card forever. BO is doing it himself.

The real racism is why BO is considered to be black in the first place. His mother and her family, who raised him, are all white. The only person who is black was the sperm donor. Don't any of these people count for anything? It seems that no matter what happens to a person with any "black blood", including being raised "white", rich, or in any other privileged curcumstance, they will never be anything but a victim in need of defending because of their "race" to too many Americans. That is what's racist, deny it all you want.

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It must be nice to be able to throw down the woe is me, I'm black card! The left loves to be able to preach the "I'm for the underdog" But when theres to underdogs (black guy) (woman) They eat each other up! With total disregard of the original pronouncement. It's known as the Eliot Spitzer syndrome. Do as I say and not what I do!

So So fkin obvious, but fck if any of you lefties will ever admit it. Your totally makin a joke of yourselves. :lol::luv::yes:

U.S. politics is all about $hit-slinging no matter what position you take.

And the love that McCain is getting from the right (including right-wing "pundits" and commentators) is truly heartwarming. It should set an example for all.

I thought we were talking about the left side of things? Cmon, AOS. You should know better than to try to disuade from the subject. But very typical of one that is in denial of the subject at hand. It's just gonna get worse between the two of them. For the two of them to be preachin all that love and togetherness ####### really does say something about who and what they truly are, wouldnt you say? Put the guard down and come to grips whats REALLY goin on here. They both are experts at blowin SMOKE.

Marc, you're implying that the right is somehow different from the left, bringing the comparison into the discussion by default. You often make Republican playbook comments ("those liberals! those lefties!") that generalize supposed Democrat positions, while ignoring that the right is often guilty of the same egregious offenses you note (in this case, the penchant for $hit-slinging).

I understand the point that you're trying to make: that the left, in your estimation, likes to see itself as all warm and fuzzy, helping one another out, being all about love and harmony--and look at the mudslinging that's occurred in the race for the Democratic nomination, what hypocrisy, blah, blah. That characterization of the left is nonsense, which is why your argrument is nonsense. Politics is cutthroat, that's all there is to it. Who actually thinks the Democrats are all about love? U.S. politics is a quagmire of selfish brats no matter what the party. Republicans go for the warm fuzzy angle too, just in a different way; they tend to invoke hard work, God, individualism, etc., blowing smoke up the arses of people who identify with that line of thinking. The distinction is not huge, and yet partisans try to make it so. I take a neutral position: I think they're all full of it and out for themselves.

Right and left both preach "togetherness #######." That's what politics and political grouping are all about. You're on this side with your homies (all together like), they're on that side. To say I'm in denial because I'm seeing gaping holes in your assertion isn't much of an argument!

If only the Republican race had lasted longer, we'd have double (or even triple) the $hit-slinging!

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