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I bet Hillary laments that them ignorant southern negros ain't capable of critical thinking.

Where was that quote exactly? Stop with the false statements.

Did you see quotation marks in my statement? I tend to use them when I'm quoting a source.

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And Obama won Miss. based on race. Fact.

And Hillary pulled in her Texas delegates based on going after the Latino vote. Fact.

so?

I don't think how she's being racist, really. She's not saying anything bad about Obama, she just said he's getting attention for being black. Same as she did back in 1984. That's not being racist.

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For the first time, the Democratic Presidential nominee will not be a white man. She could equally say - as she did for herself - that Hillary would not be in her position right now if she were male. To my knowledge, she hasn't. Why not?

Ooooooooohh....I like that.

She has:

"I will probably start with a personal account, drawing attention to the historic firsts of both these candidacies in our party, and point out specific, significant differences between Hillary's campaign and mine," said Ferraro.

"I think what America feels about a woman becoming president takes a very secondary place to Obama's campaign - to a kind of campaign that it would be hard for anyone to run against," she said. "For one thing, you have the press, which has been uniquely hard on her. It's been a very sexist media. Some just don't like her. The others have gotten caught up in the Obama campaign.

:blink: In what way does that statement say "Hillary is where she is now because she is a woman"?

Which position are you arguing? That the media have been soft on Obama because he is black (and therefore to avoid allegations of racism) or that Obama is doing so well amongst voters because he is black? Or both?

Probably both. But the media has been tougher lately on O in general, which I'm happy about. He has great speeches but nothing to back it up. And he's getting called out on it now.

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Well it does seem that most of the accusatory personal rhetoric and smearing has come out of the Clinton camp.

I think we need to use Websters... there is a clear difference between accusing and smearing vs. making public clear and present points that are confused with actual accusations.

The waters of this Democratic race are about as muddy as they can get - on that score. Its very ugly, however you look at it.

Hey if it smells like BS, it must be BS!

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I bet Hillary laments that them ignorant southern negros ain't capable of critical thinking.

Where was that quote exactly? Stop with the false statements.

Did you see quotation marks in my statement? I tend to use them when I'm quoting a source.

ah, so you're just projecting, got it. ;)

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He can say he won't play the name-calling game, but he certainly is.....

Obama: Ferraro dividing Democrats

Illinois senator accuses former v.p. candidate of 'slice and dice' politics

WASHINGTON - Democratic Sen. Barack Obama assailed as "slice and dice" politics Geraldine Ferraro's assertion that he wouldn't be where he is in the presidential race if he weren't black.

The back-and-forth between the two Democratic trailblazers — Obama, seeking to be the nation's first black president, and Ferraro, who was the first woman on a major party presidential ticket in 1984 — continued for a second day as they made appearances on network and cable morning news programs.

"Part of what I think Geraldine Ferraro is doing, and I respect the fact that she was a trailblazer, is to participate in the kind of slice and dice politics that's about race and about gender and about this and that, and that's what Americans are tired of because they recognize that when we divide ourselves in that way we can't solve problems," Obama said on NBC's "Today" show.

Ferraro, who was Walter Mondale's vice presidential running mate, said Wednesday that her remarks were not racist and had been taken out of context. She accused Obama's campaign of twisting her remarks to undercut his rival for the Democratic nomination, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.

"I was talking about historic candidacies and what I started off by saying (was that) if you go back to 1984 and look at my historic candidacy, which I had just talked about all these things, in 1984 if my name was Gerard Ferraro instead of Geraldine Ferraro, I would have never been chosen as a vice presidential candidate," Ferraro said on ABC's "Good Morning America." "It had nothing to do with my qualification."

Ferraro said she has a 40-year history of opposing discrimination of all kinds, including race, and that she was outraged at criticism of her remarks by David Axelrod, Obama's chief media strategist, because he knows her and her record.

"David Axelrod, his campaign manager, has chose to spin this as a racist comment because everytime anybody makes a comment about race who is white — he did it with Bill Clinton, he was successful; he did it with (Pennsylvania governor and Clinton supporter) Ed Rendell, he was less successful; and he is certainly not going to be successful with me," Ferraro told CBS' "The Early Show." "He should have called me up ... He knows I'm not racist."

The controversy began Tuesday when the national media picked up on comments Ferraro made in an interview last week with the Daily Breeze newspaper in Torrance, Calif.: "If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept."

Ferraro said she stands by her assertion that Obama's success in the Democratic campaign is due "in part" to his race.

Obama, however, said that if someone in his campaign had suggested that Hillary Clinton "is where she is only because she is a woman" she would be offended.

Clinton has said she disagrees with Ferraro's remarks. In an interview with The Associated Press, she said, "It's regrettable that any of our supporters — on both sides, because we both have this experience — say things that kind of veer off into the personal."

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Where's the namecalling?

He surely has a right to respond to statements made against him and his campaign...

Still I do think these comments are being given a lot more attention than they're really worth. He's right in the sense that the only purpose it appears to serve is a divisive one. Noone's talking about policy ideas because they're fixated on this issues of presentation.

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What does that prove? Again, you're using demographics very loosely here.

You cannot prove, for a fact, that a single person voted for Obama because he's black.

On that note, if anyone voted for Obama because he's black, please speak up on Dev the Omniscient's behalf.

Read those links. The exit polls are based on FACT. :lol:

Okay, I'll stick to the CNN one. Two sentences in particular:

But Mississippi white voters overwhelmingly backed the New York senator, supporting her over Obama 72 percent to 21 percent.

The exit polls also indicated roughly 30 percent of Mississippi Democratic voters said race was an important factor in their vote, and 60 percent of those voters supported Obama.

So, let's do some math. Try to follow along.

60% of 30% is 18%, so 18% of voters chose Obama based on race.

40% of 30% is 12%, so 12% of voters chose Clinton based on race.

If you subtract those numbers from the overall, you get:

Obama (non-race based): 54%

Clinton (non-race based): 9%

If we were to eliminate the other voters, the accurate percentage would become:

Obama: 86%

Clinton: 14%

I just couldn't let this little jewel go ignored.

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Which position are you arguing? That the media have been soft on Obama because he is black (and therefore to avoid allegations of racism) or that Obama is doing so well amongst voters because he is black? Or both?

Probably both. But the media has been tougher lately on O in general, which I'm happy about.

So, you think that Obama is doing well because he is black. Is Hillary still in the running because she is a woman?

Am I right in detecting an implication from you that the media are harder on Hillary because she is a woman? Not due to the quote Ferraro gave ("Some just don't like her.")?

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He can say he won't play the name-calling game, but he certainly is.....

Obama: Ferraro dividing Democrats

Illinois senator accuses former v.p. candidate of 'slice and dice' politics

WASHINGTON - Democratic Sen. Barack Obama assailed as "slice and dice" politics Geraldine Ferraro's assertion that he wouldn't be where he is in the presidential race if he weren't black.

The back-and-forth between the two Democratic trailblazers — Obama, seeking to be the nation's first black president, and Ferraro, who was the first woman on a major party presidential ticket in 1984 — continued for a second day as they made appearances on network and cable morning news programs.

"Part of what I think Geraldine Ferraro is doing, and I respect the fact that she was a trailblazer, is to participate in the kind of slice and dice politics that's about race and about gender and about this and that, and that's what Americans are tired of because they recognize that when we divide ourselves in that way we can't solve problems," Obama said on NBC's "Today" show.

Ferraro, who was Walter Mondale's vice presidential running mate, said Wednesday that her remarks were not racist and had been taken out of context. She accused Obama's campaign of twisting her remarks to undercut his rival for the Democratic nomination, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.

"I was talking about historic candidacies and what I started off by saying (was that) if you go back to 1984 and look at my historic candidacy, which I had just talked about all these things, in 1984 if my name was Gerard Ferraro instead of Geraldine Ferraro, I would have never been chosen as a vice presidential candidate," Ferraro said on ABC's "Good Morning America." "It had nothing to do with my qualification."

Ferraro said she has a 40-year history of opposing discrimination of all kinds, including race, and that she was outraged at criticism of her remarks by David Axelrod, Obama's chief media strategist, because he knows her and her record.

"David Axelrod, his campaign manager, has chose to spin this as a racist comment because everytime anybody makes a comment about race who is white — he did it with Bill Clinton, he was successful; he did it with (Pennsylvania governor and Clinton supporter) Ed Rendell, he was less successful; and he is certainly not going to be successful with me," Ferraro told CBS' "The Early Show." "He should have called me up ... He knows I'm not racist."

The controversy began Tuesday when the national media picked up on comments Ferraro made in an interview last week with the Daily Breeze newspaper in Torrance, Calif.: "If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept."

Ferraro said she stands by her assertion that Obama's success in the Democratic campaign is due "in part" to his race.

Obama, however, said that if someone in his campaign had suggested that Hillary Clinton "is where she is only because she is a woman" she would be offended.

Clinton has said she disagrees with Ferraro's remarks. In an interview with The Associated Press, she said, "It's regrettable that any of our supporters — on both sides, because we both have this experience — say things that kind of veer off into the personal."

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Where's the namecalling?

He surely has a right to respond to statements made against him and his campaign...

Still I do think these comments are being given a lot more attention than they're really worth. He's right in the sense that the only purpose it appears to serve is a divisive one. Noone's talking about policy ideas because they're fixated on this issues of presentation.

Just yesterday, his camp was calling for HC to drop Ferraro & making a big to-do about it, even after Clinton called them regrettable.

David Axelrod called on the New York senator to drop former New York Rep. Geraldine Ferraro from her finance committee. "When you wink and nod at offensive statements you're really sending a signal to your supporters that anything goes," said Axelrod.

and

(CNN) – Clinton Campaign Manager Maggie Williams said Tuesday that Obama campaign is making "false, personal and politically calculated attacks" over supporter Geraldine Ferraro's controversial comment that the Illinois senator is only in contention because of his race.

"This campaign should be about the leadership we need for a better future and these attacks serve only to divide the Democratic Party and the American people," Williams said in a statement sent to reporters.

Ferraro, the Democratic Party's vice presidential nominee in 1984, told the (Torrance, California) Daily Breeze that "If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept."

The Williams statement came a few hours after Obama senior strategist David Axelrod told reporters that Ferraro's recent remarks were part of "an insidious pattern that needs to be addressed."

"When you wink and nod at offensive statements you're really sending a signal to your supporters that anything goes," he also said.

Obama himself also issued a statement on the Ferraro's comments Tuesday afternoon, calling them divisive and 'patently absurd.'

Which position are you arguing? That the media have been soft on Obama because he is black (and therefore to avoid allegations of racism) or that Obama is doing so well amongst voters because he is black? Or both?

Probably both. But the media has been tougher lately on O in general, which I'm happy about.

So, you think that Obama is doing well because he is black. Is Hillary still in the running because she is a woman?

Am I right in detecting an implication from you that the media are harder on Hillary because she is a woman? Not due to the quote Ferraro gave ("Some just don't like her.")?

Have you seen the SNL clips? And the subsequent media effect? :lol:

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I bet Hillary laments that them ignorant southern negros ain't capable of critical thinking.

Where was that quote exactly? Stop with the false statements.

Did you see quotation marks in my statement? I tend to use them when I'm quoting a source.

ah, so you're just projecting, got it. ;)

Based on a post that was made about how 90% of blacks voted for Obama ONLY because of his race...

You just chose to leave the initial target of my sarcastic statement out because it allows you to change the context of what was said.

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He can say he won't play the name-calling game, but he certainly is.....

Obama: Ferraro dividing Democrats

Illinois senator accuses former v.p. candidate of 'slice and dice' politics

WASHINGTON - Democratic Sen. Barack Obama assailed as "slice and dice" politics Geraldine Ferraro's assertion that he wouldn't be where he is in the presidential race if he weren't black.

The back-and-forth between the two Democratic trailblazers — Obama, seeking to be the nation's first black president, and Ferraro, who was the first woman on a major party presidential ticket in 1984 — continued for a second day as they made appearances on network and cable morning news programs.

"Part of what I think Geraldine Ferraro is doing, and I respect the fact that she was a trailblazer, is to participate in the kind of slice and dice politics that's about race and about gender and about this and that, and that's what Americans are tired of because they recognize that when we divide ourselves in that way we can't solve problems," Obama said on NBC's "Today" show.

Ferraro, who was Walter Mondale's vice presidential running mate, said Wednesday that her remarks were not racist and had been taken out of context. She accused Obama's campaign of twisting her remarks to undercut his rival for the Democratic nomination, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.

"I was talking about historic candidacies and what I started off by saying (was that) if you go back to 1984 and look at my historic candidacy, which I had just talked about all these things, in 1984 if my name was Gerard Ferraro instead of Geraldine Ferraro, I would have never been chosen as a vice presidential candidate," Ferraro said on ABC's "Good Morning America." "It had nothing to do with my qualification."

Ferraro said she has a 40-year history of opposing discrimination of all kinds, including race, and that she was outraged at criticism of her remarks by David Axelrod, Obama's chief media strategist, because he knows her and her record.

"David Axelrod, his campaign manager, has chose to spin this as a racist comment because everytime anybody makes a comment about race who is white — he did it with Bill Clinton, he was successful; he did it with (Pennsylvania governor and Clinton supporter) Ed Rendell, he was less successful; and he is certainly not going to be successful with me," Ferraro told CBS' "The Early Show." "He should have called me up ... He knows I'm not racist."

The controversy began Tuesday when the national media picked up on comments Ferraro made in an interview last week with the Daily Breeze newspaper in Torrance, Calif.: "If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept."

Ferraro said she stands by her assertion that Obama's success in the Democratic campaign is due "in part" to his race.

Obama, however, said that if someone in his campaign had suggested that Hillary Clinton "is where she is only because she is a woman" she would be offended.

Clinton has said she disagrees with Ferraro's remarks. In an interview with The Associated Press, she said, "It's regrettable that any of our supporters — on both sides, because we both have this experience — say things that kind of veer off into the personal."

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Where's the namecalling?

He surely has a right to respond to statements made against him and his campaign...

Still I do think these comments are being given a lot more attention than they're really worth. He's right in the sense that the only purpose it appears to serve is a divisive one. Noone's talking about policy ideas because they're fixated on this issues of presentation.

Nahh... remember, since the evil liberal media had a love affair with O, then any baseless and petty dirty politics from C have to be accepted and 'taken like a man', err... a 'black man' mind you! :P

Then again, that's just speculative name-calling too.

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Which position are you arguing? That the media have been soft on Obama because he is black (and therefore to avoid allegations of racism) or that Obama is doing so well amongst voters because he is black? Or both?

Probably both. But the media has been tougher lately on O in general, which I'm happy about.

So, you think that Obama is doing well because he is black. Is Hillary still in the running because she is a woman?

Am I right in detecting an implication from you that the media are harder on Hillary because she is a woman? Not due to the quote Ferraro gave ("Some just don't like her.")?

Have you seen the SNL clips? And the subsequent media effect? :lol:

Is there an answer in here somewhere?

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Just yesterday, his camp was calling for HC to drop Ferraro & making a big to-do about it, even after Clinton called them regrettable.

David Axelrod called on the New York senator to drop former New York Rep. Geraldine Ferraro from her finance committee. "When you wink and nod at offensive statements you're really sending a signal to your supporters that anything goes," said Axelrod.

and

(CNN) – Clinton Campaign Manager Maggie Williams said Tuesday that Obama campaign is making "false, personal and politically calculated attacks" over supporter Geraldine Ferraro's controversial comment that the Illinois senator is only in contention because of his race.

"This campaign should be about the leadership we need for a better future and these attacks serve only to divide the Democratic Party and the American people," Williams said in a statement sent to reporters.

Ferraro, the Democratic Party's vice presidential nominee in 1984, told the (Torrance, California) Daily Breeze that "If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept."

The Williams statement came a few hours after Obama senior strategist David Axelrod told reporters that Ferraro's recent remarks were part of "an insidious pattern that needs to be addressed."

"When you wink and nod at offensive statements you're really sending a signal to your supporters that anything goes," he also said.

Obama himself also issued a statement on the Ferraro's comments Tuesday afternoon, calling them divisive and 'patently absurd.'

So, you consider it "name-calling" when he suggests that they fire a campaigner after she made clearly racist statements? You really do make some linguistic stretches.

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He can say he won't play the name-calling game, but he certainly is.....

Obama: Ferraro dividing Democrats

Illinois senator accuses former v.p. candidate of 'slice and dice' politics

WASHINGTON - Democratic Sen. Barack Obama assailed as "slice and dice" politics Geraldine Ferraro's assertion that he wouldn't be where he is in the presidential race if he weren't black.

The back-and-forth between the two Democratic trailblazers — Obama, seeking to be the nation's first black president, and Ferraro, who was the first woman on a major party presidential ticket in 1984 — continued for a second day as they made appearances on network and cable morning news programs.

"Part of what I think Geraldine Ferraro is doing, and I respect the fact that she was a trailblazer, is to participate in the kind of slice and dice politics that's about race and about gender and about this and that, and that's what Americans are tired of because they recognize that when we divide ourselves in that way we can't solve problems," Obama said on NBC's "Today" show.

Ferraro, who was Walter Mondale's vice presidential running mate, said Wednesday that her remarks were not racist and had been taken out of context. She accused Obama's campaign of twisting her remarks to undercut his rival for the Democratic nomination, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.

"I was talking about historic candidacies and what I started off by saying (was that) if you go back to 1984 and look at my historic candidacy, which I had just talked about all these things, in 1984 if my name was Gerard Ferraro instead of Geraldine Ferraro, I would have never been chosen as a vice presidential candidate," Ferraro said on ABC's "Good Morning America." "It had nothing to do with my qualification."

Ferraro said she has a 40-year history of opposing discrimination of all kinds, including race, and that she was outraged at criticism of her remarks by David Axelrod, Obama's chief media strategist, because he knows her and her record.

"David Axelrod, his campaign manager, has chose to spin this as a racist comment because everytime anybody makes a comment about race who is white — he did it with Bill Clinton, he was successful; he did it with (Pennsylvania governor and Clinton supporter) Ed Rendell, he was less successful; and he is certainly not going to be successful with me," Ferraro told CBS' "The Early Show." "He should have called me up ... He knows I'm not racist."

The controversy began Tuesday when the national media picked up on comments Ferraro made in an interview last week with the Daily Breeze newspaper in Torrance, Calif.: "If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept."

Ferraro said she stands by her assertion that Obama's success in the Democratic campaign is due "in part" to his race.

Obama, however, said that if someone in his campaign had suggested that Hillary Clinton "is where she is only because she is a woman" she would be offended.

Clinton has said she disagrees with Ferraro's remarks. In an interview with The Associated Press, she said, "It's regrettable that any of our supporters — on both sides, because we both have this experience — say things that kind of veer off into the personal."

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Where's the namecalling?

He surely has a right to respond to statements made against him and his campaign...

Still I do think these comments are being given a lot more attention than they're really worth. He's right in the sense that the only purpose it appears to serve is a divisive one. Noone's talking about policy ideas because they're fixated on this issues of presentation.

Just yesterday, his camp was calling for HC to drop Ferraro & making a big to-do about it, even after Clinton called them regrettable.

David Axelrod called on the New York senator to drop former New York Rep. Geraldine Ferraro from her finance committee. "When you wink and nod at offensive statements you're really sending a signal to your supporters that anything goes," said Axelrod.

and

(CNN) – Clinton Campaign Manager Maggie Williams said Tuesday that Obama campaign is making "false, personal and politically calculated attacks" over supporter Geraldine Ferraro's controversial comment that the Illinois senator is only in contention because of his race.

"This campaign should be about the leadership we need for a better future and these attacks serve only to divide the Democratic Party and the American people," Williams said in a statement sent to reporters.

Ferraro, the Democratic Party's vice presidential nominee in 1984, told the (Torrance, California) Daily Breeze that "If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept."

The Williams statement came a few hours after Obama senior strategist David Axelrod told reporters that Ferraro's recent remarks were part of "an insidious pattern that needs to be addressed."

"When you wink and nod at offensive statements you're really sending a signal to your supporters that anything goes," he also said.

Obama himself also issued a statement on the Ferraro's comments Tuesday afternoon, calling them divisive and 'patently absurd.'

So what? Its par for the course in this race isn't it?

Perhaps I'm missing the point here about why this suddenly so outrageous.

It has nothing to do with what either of the candidates stand for - its just muddying the waters and distracting from policy issues that they should be campaigning on.

If this drags on for a week or more there might be some traction to it - but my guess is that this will fall off the radar before the week is out.

He can say he won't play the name-calling game, but he certainly is.....

Obama: Ferraro dividing Democrats

Illinois senator accuses former v.p. candidate of 'slice and dice' politics

WASHINGTON - Democratic Sen. Barack Obama assailed as "slice and dice" politics Geraldine Ferraro's assertion that he wouldn't be where he is in the presidential race if he weren't black.

The back-and-forth between the two Democratic trailblazers — Obama, seeking to be the nation's first black president, and Ferraro, who was the first woman on a major party presidential ticket in 1984 — continued for a second day as they made appearances on network and cable morning news programs.

"Part of what I think Geraldine Ferraro is doing, and I respect the fact that she was a trailblazer, is to participate in the kind of slice and dice politics that's about race and about gender and about this and that, and that's what Americans are tired of because they recognize that when we divide ourselves in that way we can't solve problems," Obama said on NBC's "Today" show.

Ferraro, who was Walter Mondale's vice presidential running mate, said Wednesday that her remarks were not racist and had been taken out of context. She accused Obama's campaign of twisting her remarks to undercut his rival for the Democratic nomination, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.

"I was talking about historic candidacies and what I started off by saying (was that) if you go back to 1984 and look at my historic candidacy, which I had just talked about all these things, in 1984 if my name was Gerard Ferraro instead of Geraldine Ferraro, I would have never been chosen as a vice presidential candidate," Ferraro said on ABC's "Good Morning America." "It had nothing to do with my qualification."

Ferraro said she has a 40-year history of opposing discrimination of all kinds, including race, and that she was outraged at criticism of her remarks by David Axelrod, Obama's chief media strategist, because he knows her and her record.

"David Axelrod, his campaign manager, has chose to spin this as a racist comment because everytime anybody makes a comment about race who is white — he did it with Bill Clinton, he was successful; he did it with (Pennsylvania governor and Clinton supporter) Ed Rendell, he was less successful; and he is certainly not going to be successful with me," Ferraro told CBS' "The Early Show." "He should have called me up ... He knows I'm not racist."

The controversy began Tuesday when the national media picked up on comments Ferraro made in an interview last week with the Daily Breeze newspaper in Torrance, Calif.: "If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept."

Ferraro said she stands by her assertion that Obama's success in the Democratic campaign is due "in part" to his race.

Obama, however, said that if someone in his campaign had suggested that Hillary Clinton "is where she is only because she is a woman" she would be offended.

Clinton has said she disagrees with Ferraro's remarks. In an interview with The Associated Press, she said, "It's regrettable that any of our supporters — on both sides, because we both have this experience — say things that kind of veer off into the personal."

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Where's the namecalling?

He surely has a right to respond to statements made against him and his campaign...

Still I do think these comments are being given a lot more attention than they're really worth. He's right in the sense that the only purpose it appears to serve is a divisive one. Noone's talking about policy ideas because they're fixated on this issues of presentation.

Nahh... remember, since the evil liberal media had a love affair with O, then any baseless and petty dirty politics from C have to be accepted and 'taken like a man', err... a 'black man' mind you! :P

Then again, that's just speculative name-calling too.

I'm not sure why this woman made those statements to be honest - she's hardly bringing to light anything profound, or indeed that is actually useful in terms of a public debate.

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Which position are you arguing? That the media have been soft on Obama because he is black (and therefore to avoid allegations of racism) or that Obama is doing so well amongst voters because he is black? Or both?

Probably both. But the media has been tougher lately on O in general, which I'm happy about.

So, you think that Obama is doing well because he is black. Is Hillary still in the running because she is a woman?

Am I right in detecting an implication from you that the media are harder on Hillary because she is a woman? Not due to the quote Ferraro gave ("Some just don't like her.")?

Have you seen the SNL clips? And the subsequent media effect? :lol:

Is there an answer in here somewhere?

VJ Sheesh.

SNL made some funny sketches that showed the blind media love for Obama - 2 weeks in a row. The media then toughened up the next week,. Coincidence? Perhaps, but perhaps not.

I'm not sure why this woman made those statements to be honest - she's hardly bringing to light anything profound, or indeed that is actually useful in terms of a public debate.

Duh. It was a small town Cali speaking engagement that would have NEVER made national news but hey, anything to dirty the waters...

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Which position are you arguing? That the media have been soft on Obama because he is black (and therefore to avoid allegations of racism) or that Obama is doing so well amongst voters because he is black? Or both?

Probably both. But the media has been tougher lately on O in general, which I'm happy about.

So, you think that Obama is doing well because he is black. Is Hillary still in the running because she is a woman?

Am I right in detecting an implication from you that the media are harder on Hillary because she is a woman? Not due to the quote Ferraro gave ("Some just don't like her.")?

Have you seen the SNL clips? And the subsequent media effect? :lol:

Is there an answer in here somewhere?

VJ Sheesh.

SNL made some funny sketches that showed the blind media love for Obama - 2 weeks in a row. The media then toughened up the next week,. Coincidence? Perhaps, but perhaps not.

Still very interesting. But not what I asked.

Do you think Hillary is still in the running because she is a woman?

If the media is (perceived to be) tougher on Hillary, why is that automatically taken to be sexism?

"It's not the years; it's the mileage." Indiana Jones

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