Hillary and experience???

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What has she done to create jobs? open factories businesses ? NO

health care?? What has she done. I would like detail, its very easy to say I worked on this and that, but does anyone know of any organizations, rallys, marches, a bill that she tried to propose?? Anyone ?

I agree. I feel that the Clinton campaign relies too much on the "she's been there" aspect. It's not entirely clear to me, reading her website, why her years as a First Lady are more relevant to the position of President than, say, Laura Bush. Maybe someone would like to comment.

Well, look at it this way...

With Hillary as President, there'll be two presidents (one current and one former with say 70 years of experience) in bed answering that 3 am call, if and when it comes.

With the laughing smilies, I'll assume you're not totally serious.

But, do you believe that there are those who will vote for the husband rather than the candidate? What does that say about Hillary? "You need yer man to prop you up"?

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What has she done to create jobs? open factories businesses ? NO

health care?? What has she done. I would like detail, its very easy to say I worked on this and that, but does anyone know of any organizations, rallys, marches, a bill that she tried to propose?? Anyone ?

I agree. I feel that the Clinton campaign relies too much on the "she's been there" aspect. It's not entirely clear to me, reading her website, why her years as a First Lady are more relevant to the position of President than, say, Laura Bush. Maybe someone would like to comment.

Well, look at it this way...

With Hillary as President, there'll be two presidents (one current and one former with say 70 years of experience) in bed answering that 3 am call, if and when it comes.

With the laughing smilies, I'll assume you're not totally serious.

But, do you believe that there are those who will vote for the husband rather than the candidate? What does that say about Hillary? "You need yer man to prop you up"?

LOL

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Unless there some unknown statute that I'm unaware of that states that in 2008 the Democratic nominee will be president, I think the Obama campaign needs to worry a little more about the comparisons that will be made between him and John McCain. The gap there is a little wider, and the debate about whether being first lady counts will be irrelevant.

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What has she done to create jobs? open factories businesses ? NO

health care?? What has she done. I would like detail, its very easy to say I worked on this and that, but does anyone know of any organizations, rallys, marches, a bill that she tried to propose?? Anyone ?

I agree. I feel that the Clinton campaign relies too much on the "she's been there" aspect. It's not entirely clear to me, reading her website, why her years as a First Lady are more relevant to the position of President than, say, Laura Bush. Maybe someone would like to comment.

Well, look at it this way...

With Hillary as President, there'll be two presidents (one current and one former with say 70 years of experience) in bed answering that 3 am call, if and when it comes.

With the laughing smilies, I'll assume you're not totally serious.

But, do you believe that there are those who will vote for the husband rather than the candidate? What does that say about Hillary? "You need yer man to prop you up"?

Those smilies? Oh, that's because i can already anticipate a ripost like,'you sure they'll sleep in the same bed?"

But levity aside, it is also a serious answer.

You know, we pick our horses in a politiical race and then we get really passionate especially in a race such as this one which will likely go down in history as a watershed election. Yes, passions also flare up with the ups and downs of the race.

We count the ways in which our candidate is comes out as the best choice and try to pick on the opponents. At this point, we are counting the trees and not looking at the forest.

But at the end of the day, it doesn't matter which says what about Hillary or Obama or mcCain for that matter .

What matters is that the new administration will be able to fend of the real threats that this nation faces and help foster and maintain peace and prosperity that will embrace all citizens of this nation and beyond.

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Well, look at it this way...

With Hillary as President, there'll be two presidents (one current and one former with say 70 years of experience) in bed answering that 3 am call, if and when it comes.

who says bill is in the same bed?

[SteveLaura 0]

Those smilies? Oh, that's because i can already anticipate a ripost like,'you sure they'll sleep in the same bed?"

But levity aside, it is also a serious answer.

You know, we pick our horses in a politiical race and then we get really passionate especially in a race such as this one which will likely go down in history as a watershed election. Yes, passions also flare up with the ups and downs of the race.

We count the ways in which our candidate is comes out as the best choice and try to pick on the opponents. At this point, we are counting the trees and not looking at the forest.

But at the end of the day, it doesn't matter which says what about Hillary or Obama or mcCain for that matter .

What matters is that the new administration will be able to fend of the real threats that this nation faces and help foster and maintain peace and prosperity that will embrace all citizens of this nation and beyond.

OK, but Hillary is running on the Experience platform. Her website has a page specifically devoted to her time as First Lady. She and her campaign managers obviously feel that this is important. But what sets her time apart as First Lady? What duties did she perform that wouldn't have been covered by other First Ladies, past & present? The "I've been there, I've met with Foreign Leaders" lines would sound hollow and ridiculous if coming from the mouth of Laura. What makes her time different?

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Those smilies? Oh, that's because i can already anticipate a ripost like,'you sure they'll sleep in the same bed?"

But levity aside, it is also a serious answer.

You know, we pick our horses in a politiical race and then we get really passionate especially in a race such as this one which will likely go down in history as a watershed election. Yes, passions also flare up with the ups and downs of the race.

We count the ways in which our candidate is comes out as the best choice and try to pick on the opponents. At this point, we are counting the trees and not looking at the forest.

But at the end of the day, it doesn't matter which says what about Hillary or Obama or mcCain for that matter .

What matters is that the new administration will be able to fend of the real threats that this nation faces and help foster and maintain peace and prosperity that will embrace all citizens of this nation and beyond.

OK, but Hillary is running on the Experience platform. Her website has a page specifically devoted to her time as First Lady. She and her campaign managers obviously feel that this is important. But what sets her time apart as First Lady? What duties did she perform that wouldn't have been covered by other First Ladies, past & present? The "I've been there, I've met with Foreign Leaders" lines would sound hollow and ridiculous if coming from the mouth of Laura. What makes her time different?

On Northern Ireland:

Statement from John Hume former MP MEP, founder of the SDLP and an architect of the Good Friday Agreement. He is the only person to win the Nobel Prize for Peace, the Ghandi Peace Award and the Martin Luther King Peace Prize.

“I am quite surprised that anyone would suggest that Hillary Clinton did not perform important foreign policy work as First Lady. I can state from firsthand experience that she played a positive role for over a decade in helping to bring peace to Northern Ireland.

She visited Northern Ireland, met with very many people and gave very decisive support to the peace process. There is no doubt that the people of Northern Ireland think very positively of Hillary Clinton’s support for our peace process, due to her visits to Northern Ireland and her meetings with so many people. In private she made countless calls and contacts, speaking to leaders and opinion makers on all sides, urging them to keep moving forward.

Anyone criticizing her foreign policy involvement should look at her very active and positive approach to Northern Ireland and speak with the people of Northern Ireland who have the highest regard for her and are very grateful for her very active support for our peace process.”

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Inez McCormack, first female president of the Irish Congress of Trade Unions:

"Hillary Clinton took risks for peace in asking me and others to bring women and communities from both traditions to affirm their capacity to work for common purpose and to assert, when there was no public dialogue which supported it, that working for common purpose on the basis of mutual respect was the core of effective peace building. She used her immense influence to give women like me space to develop this work and validated it every step of the way. This approach is now taken for granted bit it wasn't then. She told us that if we take risks for peace, she would stay with us on that journey. In my experience, it took hard work, attention to detail and a commitment of time and energy which she delivered steadily and where it was needed over the last decade."

2007: Hillary honored for her work on the Northern Ireland Peace process. Irish American Magazine named Hillary “Person of the Year”, celebrating “her work on the Northern Ireland peace process”. [irish American Magazine, April/May 07]

2007: Hillary met with Irish leaders who wanted to 'pay their respects to Hillary' for her work on behalf of peace in Northern Ireland. Martin McGuinness and Ian Paisley recently traveled to Washington on behalf of the fledging Northern Ireland government, and they specifically requested two personal meetings: one with President George W. Bush and one with Senator Hillary Clinton. They wanted to “pay their respects to Hillary” for her long and varied role in promoting and working for peace in Northern Ireland. [Guardian, December 8, 2007]. As McGuinness put it, “these are wonderfully exciting times for all of us back home, not least because of the contributions made by President Clinton and Mrs. Clinton.” [AP, December 7, 2007].

1999: Northern Ireland Secretary: ‘Hillary is one of the essential reasons’ Ireland had peace.

1999: Hillary made frequent trips to Northern Ireland where she was 'not just in the humdrum affairs of state…but in the nitty gritty of the political scene' “A few years back the notion of an American First Lady speaking out on any aspect of life in Northern Ireland would have been taboo. Now it is accepted that not just this First Lady but also her husband make frequent trips to the North, and that they become involved not just in the humdrum affairs of state such as opening a new training center or mouthing niceties at a conference, but in the nitty gritty of the political scene too." [irish Voice, May 25, 1999]

http://facts.hillaryhub.com/archive/?id=6430

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On Kosovo:

Statement of Richard Holbrooke, architect of the Dayton Accords, and former permanent representative to the United Nations.

“It was dire in May 1999 when Hillary Clinton arrived in Macedonia. The government of Macedonia had slowed the flow of refugees from Kosovo to a trickle. After visiting refugees and gaining a first-hand assessment of the situation, the First Lady had intense talks with President Gligorov and Prime Minister Georgievski. In these talks, one in the Presidential Palace, another in the residence of the American Ambassador, Christopher Hill, Mrs. Clinton pressed the Macedonian government to fully open the border so that Kosovar Albanian refugees could flee the war zone to safety."

Statement of Susan Braden, Director of Central and Eastern Europe, National Security Council, during Clinton Administration

“I was the Director of Central and Eastern Europe at the National Security Council, with responsibility for the states on the front-line of the conflict with Serbia, including Macedonia. The First Lady traveled to the region to bolster these fragile states at a precarious time."

Hillary met with the Macedonian President and Prime Minister offering an economic development package. (Hillary) "Clinton heard her story Friday morning on her trip to Macedonia, which was aimed at highlighting the plight of ethnic Albanian refugees from Kosovo and assuring the poor Balkan nation that the United States understands the stress the influx has placed on it. Aid officials say Macedonia has taken about 233,000 of the nearly 800,000 refugees. Clinton met with Macedonian President Kiro Gligorov and Prime Minister Ljubco Georgievski. She announced the release of the first $ 2 million in a $ 21 million economic development package for Macedonia that is designed to help the fledgling democracy create new small businesses." [Chicago Tribune, 5/16/99]

Hillary met with Macedonian officials 'trying to diffuse any anti-American sentiment and to bolster Macedonia's fragile coalition government. "Hillary Rodham Clinton swept through Macedonia on Friday on a visit that illustrated the Clinton administration's continuing struggle to balance the diverse strands of its Kosovo policy…Ethnic Macedonians, who make up roughly two-thirds of this country's population, generally oppose NATO's bombing of Yugoslavia. They also fear that if ethnic Albanians -- who made up roughly one-third of Macedonia's population before the crisis -- continue to pour in from Kosovo, Macedonians will be reduced to a minority in their own country. So although Clinton spent the morning addressing the suffering of the refugees, she spent the rest of the day trying to defuse any anti-American sentiment and to bolster Macedonia's fragile coalition government, a mix of Macedonian and Albanian parties." [Austin American-Statesman, 5/15/99]

The Washington Post: "First Lady Brings Publicity, Aid to Macedonia: "First lady Hillary Rodham Clinton, the first high-ranking American to visit here since the Kosovo crisis began, brought two messages to Macedonia today. Touring a refugee camp of 18,000 people, Clinton urged Americans not to become "immune" to the plight of more than 740,000 Kosovo Albanians expelled from their homeland since NATO began its air war against Yugoslavia on March 24. "We are trying to do everything possible to make these lives and stories real, not to let them fade into the background," she said… And she soothed the irritated government of Macedonia, which has taken in the refugees only reluctantly and at the price of more foreign aid. Clinton today added another $ 2 million to the pot -- the first installment of a $ 21 million reallocation of funds for Macedonia" [Washington Post, 5/15/99]

http://facts.hillaryhub.com/archive/?id=6431

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Awesome. Glad to see Bill Clinton's efforts paying off through his wife's work.

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On Kosovo:

Statement of Richard Holbrooke, architect of the Dayton Accords, and former permanent representative to the United Nations.

“It was dire in May 1999 when Hillary Clinton arrived in Macedonia. The government of Macedonia had slowed the flow of refugees from Kosovo to a trickle. After visiting refugees and gaining a first-hand assessment of the situation, the First Lady had intense talks with President Gligorov and Prime Minister Georgievski. In these talks, one in the Presidential Palace, another in the residence of the American Ambassador, Christopher Hill, Mrs. Clinton pressed the Macedonian government to fully open the border so that Kosovar Albanian refugees could flee the war zone to safety."

Statement of Susan Braden, Director of Central and Eastern Europe, National Security Council, during Clinton Administration

“I was the Director of Central and Eastern Europe at the National Security Council, with responsibility for the states on the front-line of the conflict with Serbia, including Macedonia. The First Lady traveled to the region to bolster these fragile states at a precarious time."

Hillary met with the Macedonian President and Prime Minister offering an economic development package. (Hillary) "Clinton heard her story Friday morning on her trip to Macedonia, which was aimed at highlighting the plight of ethnic Albanian refugees from Kosovo and assuring the poor Balkan nation that the United States understands the stress the influx has placed on it. Aid officials say Macedonia has taken about 233,000 of the nearly 800,000 refugees. Clinton met with Macedonian President Kiro Gligorov and Prime Minister Ljubco Georgievski. She announced the release of the first $ 2 million in a $ 21 million economic development package for Macedonia that is designed to help the fledgling democracy create new small businesses." [Chicago Tribune, 5/16/99]

Hillary met with Macedonian officials 'trying to diffuse any anti-American sentiment and to bolster Macedonia's fragile coalition government. "Hillary Rodham Clinton swept through Macedonia on Friday on a visit that illustrated the Clinton administration's continuing struggle to balance the diverse strands of its Kosovo policy…Ethnic Macedonians, who make up roughly two-thirds of this country's population, generally oppose NATO's bombing of Yugoslavia. They also fear that if ethnic Albanians -- who made up roughly one-third of Macedonia's population before the crisis -- continue to pour in from Kosovo, Macedonians will be reduced to a minority in their own country. So although Clinton spent the morning addressing the suffering of the refugees, she spent the rest of the day trying to defuse any anti-American sentiment and to bolster Macedonia's fragile coalition government, a mix of Macedonian and Albanian parties." [Austin American-Statesman, 5/15/99]

The Washington Post: "First Lady Brings Publicity, Aid to Macedonia: "First lady Hillary Rodham Clinton, the first high-ranking American to visit here since the Kosovo crisis began, brought two messages to Macedonia today. Touring a refugee camp of 18,000 people, Clinton urged Americans not to become "immune" to the plight of more than 740,000 Kosovo Albanians expelled from their homeland since NATO began its air war against Yugoslavia on March 24. "We are trying to do everything possible to make these lives and stories real, not to let them fade into the background," she said… And she soothed the irritated government of Macedonia, which has taken in the refugees only reluctantly and at the price of more foreign aid. Clinton today added another $ 2 million to the pot -- the first installment of a $ 21 million reallocation of funds for Macedonia" [Washington Post, 5/15/99]

http://facts.hillaryhub.com/archive/?id=6431

So she visited Macedonia? That's experience? Tell me, how does a first lady give tax dollars away? That's not legal.

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On Kosovo:

Statement of Richard Holbrooke, architect of the Dayton Accords, and former permanent representative to the United Nations.

“It was dire in May 1999 when Hillary Clinton arrived in Macedonia. The government of Macedonia had slowed the flow of refugees from Kosovo to a trickle. After visiting refugees and gaining a first-hand assessment of the situation, the First Lady had intense talks with President Gligorov and Prime Minister Georgievski. In these talks, one in the Presidential Palace, another in the residence of the American Ambassador, Christopher Hill, Mrs. Clinton pressed the Macedonian government to fully open the border so that Kosovar Albanian refugees could flee the war zone to safety."

Statement of Susan Braden, Director of Central and Eastern Europe, National Security Council, during Clinton Administration

“I was the Director of Central and Eastern Europe at the National Security Council, with responsibility for the states on the front-line of the conflict with Serbia, including Macedonia. The First Lady traveled to the region to bolster these fragile states at a precarious time."

Hillary met with the Macedonian President and Prime Minister offering an economic development package. (Hillary) "Clinton heard her story Friday morning on her trip to Macedonia, which was aimed at highlighting the plight of ethnic Albanian refugees from Kosovo and assuring the poor Balkan nation that the United States understands the stress the influx has placed on it. Aid officials say Macedonia has taken about 233,000 of the nearly 800,000 refugees. Clinton met with Macedonian President Kiro Gligorov and Prime Minister Ljubco Georgievski. She announced the release of the first $ 2 million in a $ 21 million economic development package for Macedonia that is designed to help the fledgling democracy create new small businesses." [Chicago Tribune, 5/16/99]

Hillary met with Macedonian officials 'trying to diffuse any anti-American sentiment and to bolster Macedonia's fragile coalition government. "Hillary Rodham Clinton swept through Macedonia on Friday on a visit that illustrated the Clinton administration's continuing struggle to balance the diverse strands of its Kosovo policy…Ethnic Macedonians, who make up roughly two-thirds of this country's population, generally oppose NATO's bombing of Yugoslavia. They also fear that if ethnic Albanians -- who made up roughly one-third of Macedonia's population before the crisis -- continue to pour in from Kosovo, Macedonians will be reduced to a minority in their own country. So although Clinton spent the morning addressing the suffering of the refugees, she spent the rest of the day trying to defuse any anti-American sentiment and to bolster Macedonia's fragile coalition government, a mix of Macedonian and Albanian parties." [Austin American-Statesman, 5/15/99]

The Washington Post: "First Lady Brings Publicity, Aid to Macedonia: "First lady Hillary Rodham Clinton, the first high-ranking American to visit here since the Kosovo crisis began, brought two messages to Macedonia today. Touring a refugee camp of 18,000 people, Clinton urged Americans not to become "immune" to the plight of more than 740,000 Kosovo Albanians expelled from their homeland since NATO began its air war against Yugoslavia on March 24. "We are trying to do everything possible to make these lives and stories real, not to let them fade into the background," she said… And she soothed the irritated government of Macedonia, which has taken in the refugees only reluctantly and at the price of more foreign aid. Clinton today added another $ 2 million to the pot -- the first installment of a $ 21 million reallocation of funds for Macedonia" [Washington Post, 5/15/99]

http://facts.hillaryhub.com/archive/?id=6431

So she visited Macedonia? That's experience? Tell me, how does a first lady give tax dollars away? That's not legal.

you are right, I think most of it is garbage!!! makes no sense

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A quick visual of her experience: