Jerusalem seminary attacked, 7 dead

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

Call me when they quit dancing in the streets to celebrate terrorist acts.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Call me when they quit dancing in the streets to celebrate terrorist acts.

Mmmmkay....

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

[DeadPoolX 9]

As much as I like history (and I really do, especially the military variety), not all of it is quite "factual."

Sure, most of what's recorded in history books is correct, but as with everything, history is given a "human angle." In other words, I'm sure the Israelis and Palestinians each teach the history of the creation of Israel a little differently. Even if the data is exactly the same, the descriptions and words used may differ, in order to place blame elsewhere and emphasize that "those against us are the enemy and should be destroyed."

This doesn't mean we shouldn't read our history or learn from it. However, it might be wise to check the sources -- find out who wrote the text. Everyone, no matter how objective they may claim to be, has a bias and all-too-often that very same bias will sneak through in their writing (even if it's unintentional).

[Scott & Lai 12]

Brilliant response

[simple_male 1]

here's a sweet little story.

Graveside party celebrates Hebron massacre

Militant Jews have gathered at the grave of Baruch Goldstein to celebrate the sixth anniversary of his massacre of Muslim worshippers in Hebron.

The celebrants dressed up as the gunman, wearing army uniforms, doctor's coats and fake beards.

Goldstein, an immigrant from New York City, had been a physician in the Jewish settlement of Kiryat Arba.

Waving semi-automatic weapons in the air, the celebrants danced, sang and read prayers around his grave.

"We decided to make a big party on the day he was murdered by Arabs," said Baruch Marzel, one of about 40 celebrants.

The tribute was a macabre twist on the Jewish festival of Purim, when it is a custom to dress in costume and celebrate.

In 1994 on Purim, Goldstein stormed a mosque and fired on praying Muslims in the West Bank city's Tomb of the Patriarchs - a shrine sacred to both Muslims and Jews.

Twenty-nine people died in the attack, and the angry crowd lynched Goldstein in retaliation.

Israeli extremists continue to pay homage at his grave in the nearby Jewish settlement of Kiryat Arba, where a marble plaque reads: "To the holy Baruch Goldstein, who gave his life for the Jewish people, the Torah and the nation of Israel."

About 10,000 people had visited the grave since the massacre, Mr Marzel said.

Memorial shrine at the grave of terrorist Baruch Goldstein:

Epitaph on the tombstone:

"Died for the sake of His land and His Torah

With clean hands and pure heart…

Murdered for the sake of sanctification of the Lord"

Kiryat Arba (for those of you who don't know) is an illegal West Bank settlement built on confiscated Palestinian land just outside Hebron. It's a stronghold for some of the most fanatical and racist of all Zionists -- about 600 of them, and they are protected by thousands of Israeli soldiers. It's a major flashpoint of the conflict.

Remember the settlers you saw on television scuffling with the Israeli army during the Gaza "disengagement" ? They weren't even from Gaza -- they were settler trash from Kiryat Arba who went over there to put on a big show for the TV cameras.

This mass murderer’s grave is located in a park in Kiryat Arba which is named for another racist advocate of Palestinian and Arab genocide, Meir Kahane -- the founder and leader of the terrorist Kach movement, of which Goldstein was a member.

The stone plaza around the grave that you see in the picture originally featured benches and lights, a prayer book case, a stand for memorial candles, a collection box and faucets for ritual hand-washing.

After mounting international outrage at the idea of Israelis having built a shrine to honor a terrorist, and despite angry protests from the Kiryat Arba settlers, the State of Israel finally bulldozed the stone plaza around the grave and replaced it with gravel.

However, the tombstone and its epitaph, which called Goldstein a ''martyr'' with ''clean hands and a pure heart," remains untouched.

Goldstein's official Israeli death certificate lists his cause of death as "murder." His widow actually asked that the survivors of his deadly rampage -- the people who finally stopped the massacre by bludgeoning him to death with a fire extinguisher -- be prosecuted for "murder," but the State of Israel declined to take action.

Goldstein continues to be honored as a hero by many in the settler movement as well as by other Zionists.

LuckyStrike, you quoted, "Call me when they quit dancing in the streets to celebrate terrorist acts." Is anyone here supporting this? I feel sick when I see people (no matter what ethnic, religious groups) celebrating murders. But if you want to be fair, you should also condemn Israeilis who view terrorist Baruch Goldstein as a hero. Late Prime Minister Rabin, President Bill Clinton also called him a terrorist. How can a cold blooded murderer be considered a hero? Or do you think, it is ok to call an Israeli cold blooded murderer a hero because he killed Palestinians/Arabs? What are you going to say when some Israelis chant, "Death to Arabs?" Have you ever condemned this slogan? When one chants "Death to Arabs," it includes whole Arab ethnic group (there are Arab Muslims, Arab Christians in many geographical locations). We do have prominent Arab Americans in our midst, Senator George Mitchell, John Sununu, Cabinet Secretaries Spencer Abraham, Donna Shalala, etc.

Edited March 7, 2008 by simple_male

[joelunchbox 0]

May I humbly suggest that we read up on the subject?

Peach, Not Apartheid give a very neutral view on the Israeli/Palestinian situation.

Be careful with the word "Zionist"--it may not mean what you think it means either.

If you look at facts--you may be saddened to see that it is Israel who is not following the rules.

And some Israelis are intent on getting everyone else out--that includes christians.

Read about it.

We need to support Israelis who support peace and abide by agreements their government has made.

We need to support Plalestinians who support peace and will abide by agreements their govenment has made.

[DeadPoolX 9]

May I humbly suggest that we read up on the subject?

Peach, Not Apartheid give a very neutral view on the Israeli/Palestinian situation.

Be careful with the word "Zionist"--it may not mean what you think it means either.

If you look at facts--you may be saddened to see that it is Israel who is not following the rules.

And some Israelis are intent on getting everyone else out--that includes christians.

Read about it.

We need to support Israelis who support peace and abide by agreements their government has made.

We need to support Plalestinians who support peace and will abide by agreements their govenment has made.

I prefer pomegranates.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Brilliant response

That's my usual response to people who don't even know enough about the subject to write their own posts, but instead cut and paste off some website (which they don't even credit as the author of what they cut and pasted.)

It's lame, and it doesn't deserve any respect at all.

Edited March 7, 2008 by wife_of_mahmoud

[sandinista! 1,816]

here's a sweet little story.

Graveside party celebrates Hebron massacre

Militant Jews have gathered at the grave of Baruch Goldstein to celebrate the sixth anniversary of his massacre of Muslim worshippers in Hebron.

The celebrants dressed up as the gunman, wearing army uniforms, doctor's coats and fake beards.

Goldstein, an immigrant from New York City, had been a physician in the Jewish settlement of Kiryat Arba.

Waving semi-automatic weapons in the air, the celebrants danced, sang and read prayers around his grave.

"We decided to make a big party on the day he was murdered by Arabs," said Baruch Marzel, one of about 40 celebrants.

The tribute was a macabre twist on the Jewish festival of Purim, when it is a custom to dress in costume and celebrate.

In 1994 on Purim, Goldstein stormed a mosque and fired on praying Muslims in the West Bank city's Tomb of the Patriarchs - a shrine sacred to both Muslims and Jews.

Twenty-nine people died in the attack, and the angry crowd lynched Goldstein in retaliation.

Israeli extremists continue to pay homage at his grave in the nearby Jewish settlement of Kiryat Arba, where a marble plaque reads: "To the holy Baruch Goldstein, who gave his life for the Jewish people, the Torah and the nation of Israel."

About 10,000 people had visited the grave since the massacre, Mr Marzel said.

Memorial shrine at the grave of terrorist Baruch Goldstein:

Epitaph on the tombstone:

"Died for the sake of His land and His Torah

With clean hands and pure heart…

Murdered for the sake of sanctification of the Lord"

Kiryat Arba (for those of you who don't know) is an illegal West Bank settlement built on confiscated Palestinian land just outside Hebron. It's a stronghold for some of the most fanatical and racist of all Zionists -- about 600 of them, and they are protected by thousands of Israeli soldiers. It's a major flashpoint of the conflict.

Remember the settlers you saw on television scuffling with the Israeli army during the Gaza "disengagement" ? They weren't even from Gaza -- they were settler trash from Kiryat Arba who went over there to put on a big show for the TV cameras.

This mass murderer’s grave is located in a park in Kiryat Arba which is named for another racist advocate of Palestinian and Arab genocide, Meir Kahane -- the founder and leader of the terrorist Kach movement, of which Goldstein was a member.

The stone plaza around the grave that you see in the picture originally featured benches and lights, a prayer book case, a stand for memorial candles, a collection box and faucets for ritual hand-washing.

After mounting international outrage at the idea of Israelis having built a shrine to honor a terrorist, and despite angry protests from the Kiryat Arba settlers, the State of Israel finally bulldozed the stone plaza around the grave and replaced it with gravel.

However, the tombstone and its epitaph, which called Goldstein a ''martyr'' with ''clean hands and a pure heart," remains untouched.

Goldstein's official Israeli death certificate lists his cause of death as "murder." His widow actually asked that the survivors of his deadly rampage -- the people who finally stopped the massacre by bludgeoning him to death with a fire extinguisher -- be prosecuted for "murder," but the State of Israel declined to take action.

Goldstein continues to be honored as a hero by many in the settler movement as well as by other Zionists.

LuckyStrike, you quoted, "Call me when they quit dancing in the streets to celebrate terrorist acts." Is anyone here supporting this? I feel sick when I think about celebrating murders. But if you want to be fair, you should also condemn Israeilis who view terrorist Baruch Goldstein as a hero. Late Prime Minister, President Bill Clinton also called him a terrorist. How can a cold blooded murderer be considered a hero? Or do you think, it is ok to call an Israeli cold blooded murderer a hero because he killed Palestinians/Arabs? What are you going to say when some Israelis chant, "Death to Arabs?" Have you ever condemned this slogan? When one chants "Death to Arabs," it includes whole Arab ethnic group. We do have prominent Arab Americans in our midst, Senator George Mitchell, John Sununu, Cabinet Secretaries Spencer Abraham, Donna Shalala, etc.

actually, they already were yesterday. from yesterday's story:

"After the shooting, hundreds of seminary students demonstrated outside the building, screaming for revenge and chanting, "Death to Arabs." "

Gunman Kills 7 at Jerusalem Seminary

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

"After the shooting, hundreds of seminary students demonstrated outside the building, screaming for revenge and chanting, "Death to Arabs." "

Gunman Kills 7 at Jerusalem Seminary

Yep and it's nothing new. I'm heading out right now, but I'll post some pics of that sort of thing when I get back.

[mawilson 2,133]

Call me when they quit dancing in the streets to celebrate terrorist acts.

Mmmmkay....

What does this picture "prove", exactly?

[Ban Hammer 13,345]

Call me when they quit dancing in the streets to celebrate terrorist acts.

Mmmmkay....

What does this picture "prove", exactly?

jews dance?

[mawilson 2,133]

Call me when they quit dancing in the streets to celebrate terrorist acts.

Mmmmkay....

What does this picture "prove", exactly?

jews dance?

Oh no, somebody call the UN! We need a resolution to stop them NOW!

[Ban Hammer 13,345]

Call me when they quit dancing in the streets to celebrate terrorist acts.

Mmmmkay....

What does this picture "prove", exactly?

jews dance?

Oh no, somebody call the UN! We need a resolution to stop them NOW!

i wonder if the flag means they drink crown royal too.