Yardies, at home and a farrin' (Part 6)

[Jengles 0]

AH LIE...WI REACH PART 6!!!!

Happy Birthday Yardie...I hope today is/was a good day and that you celebrate the whole week through!

Ok fam, have a case for you all to mull over - so I know of a family who adopted their granddaughter as their son was killed in some gang war in Florida. Anyway, the girl was brought here under another name, but she was legally adopted in the US about 7 or 8 years ago. Three years ago, the couple divorced and the paternal grandfather was awarded custody (the grandmother was not her biological grandmother and because of safety issues she chose not to contest the custody so that she would have no need for further contact with the ex. They have recently been back in contact and are more civil, that's how we now have this info). Anyway, the granddad decided to use the lawyer who helped with the adoption to file the paperwork for her GC. Well, she got her interview date and the lawyer advised her that she would have to go to Jamaica to do the interview. When she went with her granddad, they were told that she could not be given the GC because the adoption was not done in Jamaica, so it would not be recognized. That makes no sense to us, since the adoption was legally done here in the States and we would think the US has jurisdiction. I didn't think she should have gone to JA in the first place, it made no sense to me. Now she is stuck in JA until they can sort out the adoption mess and we know how timely JA can be.

So fam, what are your thoughts on this?

one of the first things i've learned from these boards is , never leave the country...i'm assuming the adoption was under her right name. I don't belive the lawyer told them right. but now that's she's left it is going to be a mess. If the father is dead, where is the mother can't she sign over guardianship papers over to the grandparents and go from their. can they try and file for a vistor's vise for the little girl to get her back here in the states??

and what are they saying really if u go into another country you are no longer adopted...that nuh mek no sense...please keep up updated

Hey Jengs,

The mother signed over guardianship as soon as the dad died. When she heard what happened she begged the grandfather not to leave her in JA because she knows she doesn't have the means to take care of her daughter. She is trying to get out of the ghetto and thought that M was alright in the States. When I initially heard about it, I asked my mom why it was that he was even thinking about her going to Ja to do the interview. It made no sense to me since she has lived here for most of her life. She no longer knows JA. The adoption is in her right name. My mom has advised him to go to another immigration lawyer here in the US (who would have advised him better I'm sure), plus he has gotten an attorney in JA to get this sorted out.

Does anyone have the information for the Adoption Department in JA? I figure they can help him a little more so in getting this resolved. The CO did not care that this little girl no longer knows this county and her life is going to be disrupted by all of this I figured I'd come to my wealth of info on VJ and get your take on this. he is going to have to get this sorted out before her 16th birthday next year because then the embassy is going to say that she can no longer be "adopted" in Jamaica.

No this is turning into a huge mess and this girl is caught in the middle and probably shell shocked in j.a. try posting this in one of the other forums also so u can get maybe get advice from others. i'm sure someone on VJ has went thru this or something similiar

Thanks Jengs, I will post it for fellow VJ'ers to give me their take. She is staying in Westmoreland with her paternal grandmother; the wife of the granddad was not her biological grandmother. She is extremely depressed in JA

I can only imagine

[JA Tam 7]

Ja Tam, yuh sure u got ALL the information. i think it would be more about her coming her under someone else's name. that is reason's for denial, but since this is a child not sure on what they would do.

Oh yeah, I have all the info. Another attorney that the granddad spoke to said that her entering under another name would be forgiven since she was a child at the time it happened. The issue is the adoption and the CO saying the adoption should have taken place in JA and Dept of Homeland Security then needs to go to his house to inspect where she lives to make sure it is in fact a safe environment before they would consider the adoption legal. The Dept of Homeland Security issue I can't understand at all

that is absolute foolishness, the department of homeland security should do what. a lie and they have time to do that??? mi can't believe my tax dollars is being spent on that foolishness. it would have been better if he did say a social worker. all dem people that adopt every day from china the homeland security is going to fi dem house. u about to get me UPSET. I think someone should try calling the american embassy and speaking to someone else. because was pure foolishness and phuckry was dropping from that CO's mouth.

My thought exactly. When my mom told me about it, my jaw hit the floor. Dat nuh mek sense to mi! First of all, mi nevah tink she shoulda haffi go ah JA fi do di interview. She shoulda go ah 79th Street inna Miami fi do har interview! Ah tru him nuh ha no sense an nah talk to people till afta di fac'

[Jengles 0]

Ja Tam, yuh sure u got ALL the information. i think it would be more about her coming her under someone else's name. that is reason's for denial, but since this is a child not sure on what they would do.

Oh yeah, I have all the info. Another attorney that the granddad spoke to said that her entering under another name would be forgiven since she was a child at the time it happened. The issue is the adoption and the CO saying the adoption should have taken place in JA and Dept of Homeland Security then needs to go to his house to inspect where she lives to make sure it is in fact a safe environment before they would consider the adoption legal. The Dept of Homeland Security issue I can't understand at all

that is absolute foolishness, the department of homeland security should do what. a lie and they have time to do that??? mi can't believe my tax dollars is being spent on that foolishness. it would have been better if he did say a social worker. all dem people that adopt every day from china the homeland security is going to fi dem house. u about to get me UPSET. I think someone should try calling the american embassy and speaking to someone else. because was pure foolishness and phuckry was dropping from that CO's mouth.

Gray area...dat deh part a mek mi head hat mi...dat no mek no seh a tall. Smadi we afi tell mi different. Who tell dem fi send di lil girl home? Who gave that advice?

a stupid lawyer

Ja Tam, yuh sure u got ALL the information. i think it would be more about her coming her under someone else's name. that is reason's for denial, but since this is a child not sure on what they would do.

Oh yeah, I have all the info. Another attorney that the granddad spoke to said that her entering under another name would be forgiven since she was a child at the time it happened. The issue is the adoption and the CO saying the adoption should have taken place in JA and Dept of Homeland Security then needs to go to his house to inspect where she lives to make sure it is in fact a safe environment before they would consider the adoption legal. The Dept of Homeland Security issue I can't understand at all

that is absolute foolishness, the department of homeland security should do what. a lie and they have time to do that??? mi can't believe my tax dollars is being spent on that foolishness. it would have been better if he did say a social worker. all dem people that adopt every day from china the homeland security is going to fi dem house. u about to get me UPSET. I think someone should try calling the american embassy and speaking to someone else. because was pure foolishness and phuckry was dropping from that CO's mouth.

My thought exactly. When my mom told me about it, my jaw hit the floor. Dat nuh mek sense to mi! First of all, mi nevah tink she shoulda haffi go ah JA fi do di interview. She shoulda go ah 79th Street inna Miami fi do har interview! Ah tru him nuh ha no sense an nah talk to people till afta di fac'

let's leave that alone...cause right now i could right books lol

[JA Tam 7]

Ja Tam, yuh sure u got ALL the information. i think it would be more about her coming her under someone else's name. that is reason's for denial, but since this is a child not sure on what they would do.

Oh yeah, I have all the info. Another attorney that the granddad spoke to said that her entering under another name would be forgiven since she was a child at the time it happened. The issue is the adoption and the CO saying the adoption should have taken place in JA and Dept of Homeland Security then needs to go to his house to inspect where she lives to make sure it is in fact a safe environment before they would consider the adoption legal. The Dept of Homeland Security issue I can't understand at all

that is absolute foolishness, the department of homeland security should do what. a lie and they have time to do that??? mi can't believe my tax dollars is being spent on that foolishness. it would have been better if he did say a social worker. all dem people that adopt every day from china the homeland security is going to fi dem house. u about to get me UPSET. I think someone should try calling the american embassy and speaking to someone else. because was pure foolishness and phuckry was dropping from that CO's mouth.

Gray area...dat deh part a mek mi head hat mi...dat no mek no seh a tall. Smadi we afi tell mi different. Who tell dem fi send di lil girl home? Who gave that advice?

Some ole fart lawyer him go to - tell him seh she has to interview in Kingston since she came in under a different name. She deh yah; nuff people come tru dem way deh and nuh haffi go home fi do interview fi GC.

[Jengles 0]

Ja Tam, yuh sure u got ALL the information. i think it would be more about her coming her under someone else's name. that is reason's for denial, but since this is a child not sure on what they would do.

Oh yeah, I have all the info. Another attorney that the granddad spoke to said that her entering under another name would be forgiven since she was a child at the time it happened. The issue is the adoption and the CO saying the adoption should have taken place in JA and Dept of Homeland Security then needs to go to his house to inspect where she lives to make sure it is in fact a safe environment before they would consider the adoption legal. The Dept of Homeland Security issue I can't understand at all

that is absolute foolishness, the department of homeland security should do what. a lie and they have time to do that??? mi can't believe my tax dollars is being spent on that foolishness. it would have been better if he did say a social worker. all dem people that adopt every day from china the homeland security is going to fi dem house. u about to get me UPSET. I think someone should try calling the american embassy and speaking to someone else. because was pure foolishness and phuckry was dropping from that CO's mouth.

Gray area...dat deh part a mek mi head hat mi...dat no mek no seh a tall. Smadi we afi tell mi different. Who tell dem fi send di lil girl home? Who gave that advice?

Some ole fart lawyer him go to - tell him seh she has to interview in Kingston since she came in under a different name. She deh yah; nuff people come tru dem way deh and nuh haffi go home fi do interview fi GC.

oh so it can be done...and they get the GC in their right name?

[JA Tam 7]

let's leave that alone...cause right now i could right books lol

I really should...

Ja Tam, yuh sure u got ALL the information. i think it would be more about her coming her under someone else's name. that is reason's for denial, but since this is a child not sure on what they would do.

Oh yeah, I have all the info. Another attorney that the granddad spoke to said that her entering under another name would be forgiven since she was a child at the time it happened. The issue is the adoption and the CO saying the adoption should have taken place in JA and Dept of Homeland Security then needs to go to his house to inspect where she lives to make sure it is in fact a safe environment before they would consider the adoption legal. The Dept of Homeland Security issue I can't understand at all

that is absolute foolishness, the department of homeland security should do what. a lie and they have time to do that??? mi can't believe my tax dollars is being spent on that foolishness. it would have been better if he did say a social worker. all dem people that adopt every day from china the homeland security is going to fi dem house. u about to get me UPSET. I think someone should try calling the american embassy and speaking to someone else. because was pure foolishness and phuckry was dropping from that CO's mouth.

Gray area...dat deh part a mek mi head hat mi...dat no mek no seh a tall. Smadi we afi tell mi different. Who tell dem fi send di lil girl home? Who gave that advice?

Some ole fart lawyer him go to - tell him seh she has to interview in Kingston since she came in under a different name. She deh yah; nuff people come tru dem way deh and nuh haffi go home fi do interview fi GC.

oh so it can be done...and they get the GC in their right name?

Oh yes they do. I know of one case of a girl who came in under her sister's name; was filed for by her step-mother and now has her citizenship (sworn in last year) and it's all in her right name

[TRELAWNY PARISH 10]

Ja Tam, yuh sure u got ALL the information. i think it would be more about her coming her under someone else's name. that is reason's for denial, but since this is a child not sure on what they would do.

Oh yeah, I have all the info. Another attorney that the granddad spoke to said that her entering under another name would be forgiven since she was a child at the time it happened. The issue is the adoption and the CO saying the adoption should have taken place in JA and Dept of Homeland Security then needs to go to his house to inspect where she lives to make sure it is in fact a safe environment before they would consider the adoption legal. The Dept of Homeland Security issue I can't understand at all

that is absolute foolishness, the department of homeland security should do what. a lie and they have time to do that??? mi can't believe my tax dollars is being spent on that foolishness. it would have been better if he did say a social worker. all dem people that adopt every day from china the homeland security is going to fi dem house. u about to get me UPSET. I think someone should try calling the american embassy and speaking to someone else. because was pure foolishness and phuckry was dropping from that CO's mouth.

Gray area...dat deh part a mek mi head hat mi...dat no mek no seh a tall. Smadi we afi tell mi different. Who tell dem fi send di lil girl home? Who gave that advice?

Some ole fart lawyer him go to - tell him seh she has to interview in Kingston since she came in under a different name. She deh yah; nuff people come tru dem way deh and nuh haffi go home fi do interview fi GC.

Kiss mi neck...di amount a people mi know who come a farin wid different name a get dem papah same way. Mi woudah afi go back to di ediat lawyer and demand some answers...cho man..now mi bex fi di rest a di night...im need a KUNK inna im head fi not asking smadi fi help befor listening to lawyer. Cho man

[sus 70]

that is absolute foolishness, the department of homeland security should do what. a lie and they have time to do that??? mi can't believe my tax dollars is being spent on that foolishness. it would have been better if he did say a social worker. all dem people that adopt every day from china the homeland security is going to fi dem house. u about to get me UPSET. I think someone should try calling the american embassy and speaking to someone else. because was pure foolishness and phuckry was dropping from that CO's mouth.

I won't b**ch too much about the memo - it's on a nonprofit website of an organization that helps kids - So it's out there for a good cause, just was shocked to find it (and a little pissed that I wasn't told or given credit!)

I haven't heard of the DHS having to come to the house - what the issue is with a Sp. immigrant juvenile petition is that the DHS has to sign an affidavit that they consent to the filing of the petition - doesn't mean it's granted, but it's a fairly simple step.

Back when I wrote this memo, we had a case where an attorney that I worked with and I were appointed as Court appointed advocates for a young girl in foster care - the more we learned of her story, we realized that she had no legal status in the US as she had been brought here under another person's visa. So, my research work began into how the He** do we get her a green card? I am very happy to say - she not only is a green card holder now, we got her mom and sisters out of a refugee camp and over here to be reunited.

I am not sure what will happen with this girl having left the US though - But I would file a grievance against the lawyer that gave that advice - let him pay the costs to bring her back here!

[Sonshyne 2]

Wow mi cyaan believe wi a reach part 6!!!

Happy B-Day Yardie and many many more!

Ja Congrads!

[shrewdgal 0]

Congrats Claire....I just saw your case completed!! I hope you get a April interview.

Yall pray for me and my lost in visa space CR1 application. As you can see from my timeline I sent it a LOOOOONNNNGG time ago...me and Shrewdie. SO keep us in your prayers for a soon come approval.

aww thanks for throwing me in there Lita.. Im hoping by the end of this month? they are getting really close to our NOA1 dates. did you see that person that got noa1 about the time we did and then got noa2 two weeks later? POO

[Sonshyne 2]

KimKim I'm so glad to hear that your doing betta

[TRELAWNY PARISH 10]

KimKim I'm so glad to hear that your doing betta

SHYNE a wah u a guh wid suitcase?

[Jengles 0]

that is absolute foolishness, the department of homeland security should do what. a lie and they have time to do that??? mi can't believe my tax dollars is being spent on that foolishness. it would have been better if he did say a social worker. all dem people that adopt every day from china the homeland security is going to fi dem house. u about to get me UPSET. I think someone should try calling the american embassy and speaking to someone else. because was pure foolishness and phuckry was dropping from that CO's mouth.

I won't b**ch too much about the memo - it's on a nonprofit website of an organization that helps kids - So it's out there for a good cause, just was shocked to find it (and a little pissed that I wasn't told or given credit!)

I haven't heard of the DHS having to come to the house - what the issue is with a Sp. immigrant juvenile petition is that the DHS has to sign an affidavit that they consent to the filing of the petition - doesn't mean it's granted, but it's a fairly simple step.

Back when I wrote this memo, we had a case where an attorney that I worked with and I were appointed as Court appointed advocates for a young girl in foster care - the more we learned of her story, we realized that she had no legal status in the US as she had been brought here under another person's visa. So, my research work began into how the He** do we get her a green card? I am very happy to say - she not only is a green card holder now, we got her mom and sisters out of a refugee camp and over here to be reunited.

I am not sure what will happen with this girl having left the US though - But I would file a grievance against the lawyer that gave that advice - let him pay the costs to bring her back here!

good idea,

i'm about to file a grievance against my child, i just don't understand how he can bounce into tables that are two feet away from him and knock everyting over. its like he has a wind that follows him *cha*

Lawny,

dat nuh a suitcase...nuh shopping bag dat??

[TRELAWNY PARISH 10]

that is absolute foolishness, the department of homeland security should do what. a lie and they have time to do that??? mi can't believe my tax dollars is being spent on that foolishness. it would have been better if he did say a social worker. all dem people that adopt every day from china the homeland security is going to fi dem house. u about to get me UPSET. I think someone should try calling the american embassy and speaking to someone else. because was pure foolishness and phuckry was dropping from that CO's mouth.

I won't b**ch too much about the memo - it's on a nonprofit website of an organization that helps kids - So it's out there for a good cause, just was shocked to find it (and a little pissed that I wasn't told or given credit!)

I haven't heard of the DHS having to come to the house - what the issue is with a Sp. immigrant juvenile petition is that the DHS has to sign an affidavit that they consent to the filing of the petition - doesn't mean it's granted, but it's a fairly simple step.

Back when I wrote this memo, we had a case where an attorney that I worked with and I were appointed as Court appointed advocates for a young girl in foster care - the more we learned of her story, we realized that she had no legal status in the US as she had been brought here under another person's visa. So, my research work began into how the He** do we get her a green card? I am very happy to say - she not only is a green card holder now, we got her mom and sisters out of a refugee camp and over here to be reunited.

I am not sure what will happen with this girl having left the US though - But I would file a grievance against the lawyer that gave that advice - let him pay the costs to bring her back here!

good idea,

i'm about to file a grievance against my child, i just don't understand how he can bounce into tables that are two feet away from him and knock everyting over. its like he has a wind that follows him *cha*

Lawny,

dat nuh a suitcase...nuh shopping bag dat??

DWL...SHYN sarry yah...JENGS the GINGER WINE a get to mi....but it GOODDDDDDDDD Ithink that's why I haven't been sick in very long time.

[Sonshyne 2]

KimKim I'm so glad to hear that your doing betta

SHYNE a wah u a guh wid suitcase?

Mi ago out shoping fe new tings tuh put pon mi suticase fe mi trip tuh JA next month

DWL...SHYN sarry yah...JENGS the GINGER WINE a get to mi....but it GOODDDDDDDDD Ithink that's why I haven't been sick in very long time.

Mi need some a dat mi been sick 3 days and nuh go tuh wuk