Yardies, at home and a farrin' (Part 6)

[Jengles 0]

AH LIE...WI REACH PART 6!!!!

Happy Birthday Yardie...I hope today is/was a good day and that you celebrate the whole week through!

Ok fam, have a case for you all to mull over - so I know of a family who adopted their granddaughter as their son was killed in some gang war in Florida. Anyway, the girl was brought here under another name, but she was legally adopted in the US about 7 or 8 years ago. Three years ago, the couple divorced and the paternal grandfather was awarded custody (the grandmother was not her biological grandmother and because of safety issues she chose not to contest the custody so that she would have no need for further contact with the ex. They have recently been back in contact and are more civil, that's how we now have this info). Anyway, the granddad decided to use the lawyer who helped with the adoption to file the paperwork for her GC. Well, she got her interview date and the lawyer advised her that she would have to go to Jamaica to do the interview. When she went with her granddad, they were told that she could not be given the GC because the adoption was not done in Jamaica, so it would not be recognized. That makes no sense to us, since the adoption was legally done here in the States and we would think the US has jurisdiction. I didn't think she should have gone to JA in the first place, it made no sense to me. Now she is stuck in JA until they can sort out the adoption mess and we know how timely JA can be.

So fam, what are your thoughts on this?

one of the first things i've learned from these boards is , never leave the country...i'm assuming the adoption was under her right name. I don't belive the lawyer told them right. but now that's she's left it is going to be a mess. If the father is dead, where is the mother can't she sign over guardianship papers over to the grandparents and go from their. can they try and file for a vistor's vise for the little girl to get her back here in the states??

and what are they saying really if u go into another country you are no longer adopted...that nuh mek no sense...please keep up updated

Dat mi no understand eedah. I'll have to ask some of my co-workers who have gone through international adoptions.

Ja Tam, yuh sure u got ALL the information. i think it would be more about her coming her under someone else's name. that is reason's for denial, but since this is a child not sure on what they would do.

[nannygirl82 0]

I know that for men it would eventually lead to something sexual but say there is just the emotional/intimate/getting to be more than just a friend side of things first. If you found that out before anything sexual happened would you still feel like he cheated? Would you consider that to be just as bad as doing something of a sexual nature?

i know this was talked about earlier in the day but i wanted to add my coment to this....and i would ahve to say yes to the questions....mike did all the above....he did it at the bus stop, on the computer, on the phone...and even though he said "never slept with them" i still felt/feel betryad by him....like why did need to talk to these other girls or say the things he said to them...what's wrong with telling me all of those things last time i checked i was his wife....just my thoughts...

right and it made u uncomfortable, so he should have stopped.

yup he should have....but he didn't...so i left....

[TRELAWNY PARISH 10]

Evnin nanny how the baby?

oh she is very active we went to the movies today...saw definatly maybe....it was actually a good movie...a little bit of a tear jerker at the end but good!!

thanks for asking....

Good to hear. Remember no worrying or stressing, just tek it easi

[JA Tam 7]

AH LIE...WI REACH PART 6!!!!

Happy Birthday Yardie...I hope today is/was a good day and that you celebrate the whole week through!

Ok fam, have a case for you all to mull over - so I know of a family who adopted their granddaughter as their son was killed in some gang war in Florida. Anyway, the girl was brought here under another name, but she was legally adopted in the US about 7 or 8 years ago. Three years ago, the couple divorced and the paternal grandfather was awarded custody (the grandmother was not her biological grandmother and because of safety issues she chose not to contest the custody so that she would have no need for further contact with the ex. They have recently been back in contact and are more civil, that's how we now have this info). Anyway, the granddad decided to use the lawyer who helped with the adoption to file the paperwork for her GC. Well, she got her interview date and the lawyer advised her that she would have to go to Jamaica to do the interview. When she went with her granddad, they were told that she could not be given the GC because the adoption was not done in Jamaica, so it would not be recognized. That makes no sense to us, since the adoption was legally done here in the States and we would think the US has jurisdiction. I didn't think she should have gone to JA in the first place, it made no sense to me. Now she is stuck in JA until they can sort out the adoption mess and we know how timely JA can be.

So fam, what are your thoughts on this?

one of the first things i've learned from these boards is , never leave the country...i'm assuming the adoption was under her right name. I don't belive the lawyer told them right. but now that's she's left it is going to be a mess. If the father is dead, where is the mother can't she sign over guardianship papers over to the grandparents and go from their. can they try and file for a vistor's vise for the little girl to get her back here in the states??

and what are they saying really if u go into another country you are no longer adopted...that nuh mek no sense...please keep up updated

Hey Jengs,

The mother signed over guardianship as soon as the dad died. When she heard what happened she begged the grandfather not to leave her in JA because she knows she doesn't have the means to take care of her daughter. She is trying to get out of the ghetto and thought that M was alright in the States. When I initially heard about it, I asked my mom why it was that he was even thinking about her going to Ja to do the interview. It made no sense to me since she has lived here for most of her life. She no longer knows JA. The adoption is in her right name. My mom has advised him to go to another immigration lawyer here in the US (who would have advised him better I'm sure), plus he has gotten an attorney in JA to get this sorted out.

Does anyone have the information for the Adoption Department in JA? I figure they can help him a little more so in getting this resolved. The CO did not care that this little girl no longer knows this county and her life is going to be disrupted by all of this I figured I'd come to my wealth of info on VJ and get your take on this. he is going to have to get this sorted out before her 16th birthday next year because then the embassy is going to say that she can no longer be "adopted" in Jamaica.

[Jengles 0]

JA Tam -

How old is the girl now? If she is under 21, they might be able to do a special immigrant juvenile petition:

(Off topic - I did a quick google search and my Fecking former boss stole my memo that I wrote and put it on a website without giving me credit! )

www.kidscounsel.org/Special%20Immigrant%20Juvenile%20Memo%20-%20R%20%20C.DOC

Not sure if it is possible since she is out of the US, but worth looking into

tell him sey u still have u orignial handwritten copy dem at yah yard and then throw in a few more sentences and include the words infringement and copywrite law. u work in a law firm sure u can make it sound polish!!

[JA Tam 7]

Ja Tam, yuh sure u got ALL the information. i think it would be more about her coming her under someone else's name. that is reason's for denial, but since this is a child not sure on what they would do.

Oh yeah, I have all the info. Another attorney that the granddad spoke to said that her entering under another name would be forgiven since she was a child at the time it happened. The issue is the adoption and the CO saying the adoption should have taken place in JA and Dept of Homeland Security then needs to go to his house to inspect where she lives to make sure it is in fact a safe environment before they would consider the adoption legal. The Dept of Homeland Security issue I can't understand at all

[Jengles 0]

AH LIE...WI REACH PART 6!!!!

Happy Birthday Yardie...I hope today is/was a good day and that you celebrate the whole week through!

Ok fam, have a case for you all to mull over - so I know of a family who adopted their granddaughter as their son was killed in some gang war in Florida. Anyway, the girl was brought here under another name, but she was legally adopted in the US about 7 or 8 years ago. Three years ago, the couple divorced and the paternal grandfather was awarded custody (the grandmother was not her biological grandmother and because of safety issues she chose not to contest the custody so that she would have no need for further contact with the ex. They have recently been back in contact and are more civil, that's how we now have this info). Anyway, the granddad decided to use the lawyer who helped with the adoption to file the paperwork for her GC. Well, she got her interview date and the lawyer advised her that she would have to go to Jamaica to do the interview. When she went with her granddad, they were told that she could not be given the GC because the adoption was not done in Jamaica, so it would not be recognized. That makes no sense to us, since the adoption was legally done here in the States and we would think the US has jurisdiction. I didn't think she should have gone to JA in the first place, it made no sense to me. Now she is stuck in JA until they can sort out the adoption mess and we know how timely JA can be.

So fam, what are your thoughts on this?

one of the first things i've learned from these boards is , never leave the country...i'm assuming the adoption was under her right name. I don't belive the lawyer told them right. but now that's she's left it is going to be a mess. If the father is dead, where is the mother can't she sign over guardianship papers over to the grandparents and go from their. can they try and file for a vistor's vise for the little girl to get her back here in the states??

and what are they saying really if u go into another country you are no longer adopted...that nuh mek no sense...please keep up updated

Hey Jengs,

The mother signed over guardianship as soon as the dad died. When she heard what happened she begged the grandfather not to leave her in JA because she knows she doesn't have the means to take care of her daughter. She is trying to get out of the ghetto and thought that M was alright in the States. When I initially heard about it, I asked my mom why it was that he was even thinking about her going to Ja to do the interview. It made no sense to me since she has lived here for most of her life. She no longer knows JA. The adoption is in her right name. My mom has advised him to go to another immigration lawyer here in the US (who would have advised him better I'm sure), plus he has gotten an attorney in JA to get this sorted out.

Does anyone have the information for the Adoption Department in JA? I figure they can help him a little more so in getting this resolved. The CO did not care that this little girl no longer knows this county and her life is going to be disrupted by all of this I figured I'd come to my wealth of info on VJ and get your take on this. he is going to have to get this sorted out before her 16th birthday next year because then the embassy is going to say that she can no longer be "adopted" in Jamaica.

No this is turning into a huge mess and this girl is caught in the middle and probably shell shocked in j.a. try posting this in one of the other forums also so u can get maybe get advice from others. i'm sure someone on VJ has went thru this or something similiar

[TRELAWNY PARISH 10]

JA Tam -

How old is the girl now? If she is under 21, they might be able to do a special immigrant juvenile petition:

(Off topic - I did a quick google search and my Fecking former boss stole my memo that I wrote and put it on a website without giving me credit! )

www.kidscounsel.org/Special%20Immigrant%20Juvenile%20Memo%20-%20R%20%20C.DOC

Not sure if it is possible since she is out of the US, but worth looking into

Now, that calls for a VASELINE beat down. I can't stand that. Some of othe Executive Assistant I work with are always taking credit for my presentations. I put together a HUGE presentation for thousands of people in D.C. in 1999 about the changes that would take place in 2000 in the IT world and I had the JAMES BOND music in it...you know the 007 sound, and this Ph.D. WITCH decides she's going to run the slide show without telling me. I was walking to the podium and she just stood up and started talking. I wanted to RIP her skin off.

[JA Tam 7]

JA Tam -

How old is the girl now? If she is under 21, they might be able to do a special immigrant juvenile petition:

(Off topic - I did a quick google search and my Fecking former boss stole my memo that I wrote and put it on a website without giving me credit! )

www.kidscounsel.org/Special%20Immigrant%20Juvenile%20Memo%20-%20R%20%20C.DOC

Not sure if it is possible since she is out of the US, but worth looking into

Hey sus, she just turned 14 in November. That would certainly be something for us to look into. Thanks!

[nannygirl82 0]

Good to hear. Remember no worrying or stressing, just tek it easi

i'm trying....i am filled with mixed emotions....just trying to keep focused....

[JA Tam 7]

JA Tam -

How old is the girl now? If she is under 21, they might be able to do a special immigrant juvenile petition:

(Off topic - I did a quick google search and my Fecking former boss stole my memo that I wrote and put it on a website without giving me credit! )

www.kidscounsel.org/Special%20Immigrant%20Juvenile%20Memo%20-%20R%20%20C.DOC

Not sure if it is possible since she is out of the US, but worth looking into

That is messed up!!!!

[TRELAWNY PARISH 10]

Si di one KIMMY get some food inna ar belly now she a play DUPPY

[Jengles 0]

Ja Tam, yuh sure u got ALL the information. i think it would be more about her coming her under someone else's name. that is reason's for denial, but since this is a child not sure on what they would do.

Oh yeah, I have all the info. Another attorney that the granddad spoke to said that her entering under another name would be forgiven since she was a child at the time it happened. The issue is the adoption and the CO saying the adoption should have taken place in JA and Dept of Homeland Security then needs to go to his house to inspect where she lives to make sure it is in fact a safe environment before they would consider the adoption legal. The Dept of Homeland Security issue I can't understand at all

that is absolute foolishness, the department of homeland security should do what. a lie and they have time to do that??? mi can't believe my tax dollars is being spent on that foolishness. it would have been better if he did say a social worker. all dem people that adopt every day from china the homeland security is going to fi dem house. u about to get me UPSET. I think someone should try calling the american embassy and speaking to someone else. because was pure foolishness and phuckry was dropping from that CO's mouth.

[JA Tam 7]

AH LIE...WI REACH PART 6!!!!

Happy Birthday Yardie...I hope today is/was a good day and that you celebrate the whole week through!

Ok fam, have a case for you all to mull over - so I know of a family who adopted their granddaughter as their son was killed in some gang war in Florida. Anyway, the girl was brought here under another name, but she was legally adopted in the US about 7 or 8 years ago. Three years ago, the couple divorced and the paternal grandfather was awarded custody (the grandmother was not her biological grandmother and because of safety issues she chose not to contest the custody so that she would have no need for further contact with the ex. They have recently been back in contact and are more civil, that's how we now have this info). Anyway, the granddad decided to use the lawyer who helped with the adoption to file the paperwork for her GC. Well, she got her interview date and the lawyer advised her that she would have to go to Jamaica to do the interview. When she went with her granddad, they were told that she could not be given the GC because the adoption was not done in Jamaica, so it would not be recognized. That makes no sense to us, since the adoption was legally done here in the States and we would think the US has jurisdiction. I didn't think she should have gone to JA in the first place, it made no sense to me. Now she is stuck in JA until they can sort out the adoption mess and we know how timely JA can be.

So fam, what are your thoughts on this?

one of the first things i've learned from these boards is , never leave the country...i'm assuming the adoption was under her right name. I don't belive the lawyer told them right. but now that's she's left it is going to be a mess. If the father is dead, where is the mother can't she sign over guardianship papers over to the grandparents and go from their. can they try and file for a vistor's vise for the little girl to get her back here in the states??

and what are they saying really if u go into another country you are no longer adopted...that nuh mek no sense...please keep up updated

Hey Jengs,

The mother signed over guardianship as soon as the dad died. When she heard what happened she begged the grandfather not to leave her in JA because she knows she doesn't have the means to take care of her daughter. She is trying to get out of the ghetto and thought that M was alright in the States. When I initially heard about it, I asked my mom why it was that he was even thinking about her going to Ja to do the interview. It made no sense to me since she has lived here for most of her life. She no longer knows JA. The adoption is in her right name. My mom has advised him to go to another immigration lawyer here in the US (who would have advised him better I'm sure), plus he has gotten an attorney in JA to get this sorted out.

Does anyone have the information for the Adoption Department in JA? I figure they can help him a little more so in getting this resolved. The CO did not care that this little girl no longer knows this county and her life is going to be disrupted by all of this I figured I'd come to my wealth of info on VJ and get your take on this. he is going to have to get this sorted out before her 16th birthday next year because then the embassy is going to say that she can no longer be "adopted" in Jamaica.

No this is turning into a huge mess and this girl is caught in the middle and probably shell shocked in j.a. try posting this in one of the other forums also so u can get maybe get advice from others. i'm sure someone on VJ has went thru this or something similiar

Thanks Jengs, I will post it for fellow VJ'ers to give me their take. She is staying in Westmoreland with her paternal grandmother; the wife of the granddad was not her biological grandmother. She is extremely depressed in JA

[TRELAWNY PARISH 10]

Ja Tam, yuh sure u got ALL the information. i think it would be more about her coming her under someone else's name. that is reason's for denial, but since this is a child not sure on what they would do.

Oh yeah, I have all the info. Another attorney that the granddad spoke to said that her entering under another name would be forgiven since she was a child at the time it happened. The issue is the adoption and the CO saying the adoption should have taken place in JA and Dept of Homeland Security then needs to go to his house to inspect where she lives to make sure it is in fact a safe environment before they would consider the adoption legal. The Dept of Homeland Security issue I can't understand at all

that is absolute foolishness, the department of homeland security should do what. a lie and they have time to do that??? mi can't believe my tax dollars is being spent on that foolishness. it would have been better if he did say a social worker. all dem people that adopt every day from china the homeland security is going to fi dem house. u about to get me UPSET. I think someone should try calling the american embassy and speaking to someone else. because was pure foolishness and phuckry was dropping from that CO's mouth.

Gray area...dat deh part a mek mi head hat mi...dat no mek no seh a tall. Smadi we afi tell mi different. Who tell dem fi send di lil girl home? Who gave that advice?