Obama almost as big with GOP as McCainRepublicans like Sen. Barack Obama nearly as much as they like their own likely presidential nominee, Sen. John

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

What a lame poll "how likable someone is?" Doesnt mean theyll vote for him. Likability has nothing to do with who their gonna vote for. If it did why didnt they just ask that question. Spin me some more!

[Ban Hammer 13,346]

Seriously? Perhaps it is regional ?

It's actually quite a racist thing to say.

My husband is British and didn't get it either, when someone we knew made a comment last summer about an African-American friend of mine. I'd rather not have to explain it.

Let's just say... It's stereotypical. Sort of like putting Hillary and feminine hygiene product together.

Everyone's got a right to their own opinion, and the freedom to say it.

Mrs. B

I've never heard that. Perhaps you've not heard of the Jim Jones & the Jonestown massacre?

apparently not

[MrsBruce5 0]

Seriously? Perhaps it is regional ?

It's actually quite a racist thing to say.

My husband is British and didn't get it either, when someone we knew made a comment last summer about an African-American friend of mine. I'd rather not have to explain it.

Let's just say... It's stereotypical. Sort of like putting Hillary and feminine hygiene product together.

Everyone's got a right to their own opinion, and the freedom to say it.

Mrs. B

I've never heard that. Perhaps you've not heard of the Jim Jones & the Jonestown massacre?

apparently not

Uh, yeah. I know all about Jim Jones. Most of his victims were black men, women and children. There's nothing funny that.

I hope none of you (or your SO's) who made light of this ever experience what it's like to be judged by your skin color or ethnicity. Then again, maybe you'll get to see what it's like.

To the moderators-You've allowed racism this on this site. If that's not a TOS violation, then I don't know what is.

I am off to cancel my account.

Mrs.B

Edited March 5, 2008 by MrsBruce5

[Jenn! 918]

"Drinking the Kool-Aid"

The idiomatic expression, "drinking the Kool-Aid", was originally a reference to the Merry Pranksters, a group of people associated with novelist Ken Kesey who, in the early 1960s, traveled around the United States and held events called "Acid Tests", where LSD-laced Kool-Aid was passed out to the public (LSD was legal in the U.S. until 1966). Those who drank the "Kool-Aid" passed the "Acid Test". "Drinking the Kool-Aid" in that context meant accepting the LSD drug culture, and the Pranksters' "turned on" point of view. These events were described in Tom Wolfe's 1968 classic, The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test.[4]

Currently the term is mostly associated with the 1978 cult suicide in Jonestown, Guyana. Jim Jones, the leader of the Peoples Temple, convinced his followers to move to Jonestown. Late in the year, he then ordered his flock to commit suicide by drinking grape-flavored Flavor Aid laced with potassium cyanide. In what is now commonly called the "Jonestown Massacre", a large majority of the 913 people later found dead drank the brew. (The discrepancy between the idiom and the actual occurrence is likely due to Flavor Aid's relative obscurity, compared to the easily recognizable Kool-Aid.) The precise expression can be attested in usage at least as early as 1987[4]. The saying "Don't drink the Kool-Aid" now commonly refers to the Jonestown tragedy, meaning "Don't trust any group you find to be a little on the kooky side," or "Whatever they tell you, don't believe it too strongly."[5] Fox News commentator Bill O'Reilly is famous for using the term in this manner. [6]

"Drink the Kool-Aid," is now also corporate-speak for immersing oneself in a cultlike culture. Appearing in the 1980s and later applied to many a dotcom staffer, the persistent expression clearly wasn't just the flavor of the month. The authors of Hard Drive (John Wiley, 1992), a book about Microsoft, quoted one employee observing of his coworkers, "If Bill [Gates] said drink Kool-Aid, they would do it." And The New York Times cited one analyst who said of certain Time Warner executives: "The AOL guys have got to stop drinking the Kool-Aid and get on the team."

Having "drunk the Kool-Aid" also refers to being a strong or fervent believer in a particular philosophy or mission -- wholeheartedly or blindly believing in its virtues.[7][8]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kool-Aid#.22D...the_Kool-Aid.22

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

I have never once thought "drinking the kool aid" was racist - all the merry pranksters were white I think, so was Jim Jones

[Ban Hammer 13,346]

Seriously? Perhaps it is regional ?

It's actually quite a racist thing to say.

My husband is British and didn't get it either, when someone we knew made a comment last summer about an African-American friend of mine. I'd rather not have to explain it.

Let's just say... It's stereotypical. Sort of like putting Hillary and feminine hygiene product together.

Everyone's got a right to their own opinion, and the freedom to say it.

Mrs. B

I've never heard that. Perhaps you've not heard of the Jim Jones & the Jonestown massacre?

apparently not

Uh, yeah. I know all about Jim Jones. Most of his victims were black men, women and children. There's nothing funny that.

I hope none of you (or your SO's) who made light of this ever experience what it's like to be judged by your skin color or ethnicity. Then again, maybe you'll get to see what it's like.

To the moderators-You've allowed racism this on this site. If that's not a TOS violation, then I don't know what is.

I am off to cancel my account.

Mrs.B

[Alex+R 0]

Anyone watching McCain's speech?

I guess he's not a very charismatic speaker. Yeesh.

[Ban Hammer 13,346]

Anyone watching McCain's speech?

I guess he's not a very charismatic speaker. Yeesh.

aren't we used to that already?

[Alex+R 0]

Yeah, but... this one was particularly uninspiring. Wow...

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He sounded exhausted. I think it's his age.

I doubt he's up to the job anymore.

Edited March 5, 2008 by VJ Troll

[Ban Hammer 13,346]

Yeah, but... this one was particularly uninspiring. Wow...

imagine some day in the near future where you'll long for the good ol days with gwb

[Alex+R 0]

Yeah, but... this one was particularly uninspiring. Wow...

imagine some day in the near future where you'll long for the good ol days with gwb

I don't think that could happen. Not with McCain getting the GOP nomination.

[garya505 2]

I just hope Obama and Clinton keep the battle going for a long time. The longer they go at it, the worse they look. And I hope McCain is taking notes.

[Peikko 1,575]

I don't agree that this makes them look bad but rather passionate about their commitment to their own political agendas. However, I guess I see things differently.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I don't agree that this makes them look bad but rather passionate about their commitment to their own political agendas. However, I guess I see things differently.

I don't think it looks bad either. What it does do however, is take the spotlight off of John McCain - he does have something of an advantage in that he can start campaigning for the general election early - but while the Democratic race is going on I think he's going to have a hard time getting people to listen to him.