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Hi again,

i recently posted about a 221g at the Embassy where they requested more police certificates from my wife. the original topic can be found here. http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=110416

The original denial letter read as follows:

Dear -------

this office regrets to inform you that it is unable to issue a visa to you because you have been found ineligble to receive a visa under the following section(s) of the immigtation and naturalization Act. X section 221(G) which prohibits the issuance of a visa to anyone who fails to present the documents requested in connection with this visa application.... etc. etc.. etc..et..

You have been founf indligible under there grounds becaise:

1. please obtain a police certificate from Denmark

2. Pending police certificate from the netherlands

3. Pending adminstrative processing.

once the above items are provided we will review your case. If all documents are in order your visa will be issued and mailed to you by registered mail.

A few days leter i got a call from the university in the netherlands that i was a visiting student at. The adminstrator told me that the US embassy in Sweden had called her inquiring if i was actually there and the requirements of my program, and asked her to read a list of all the students presumably to make sure that my wife was indeed doing the same program.

a couple of days after that i got an email from the embassy stating:

"Dear -----,

Our office would ar like to ask you to provide us with the following:

We would like you to fill out a new and updated version of the form G-325A. The version we received when you filed the I-130 petition does not state that you have been studying and residing in the Netherlands. Please remember to sign the form before you mail it to the embassy. Also, list the address/addresses where you were living while residing in the Netherlands. "

They also sent a similar letter to my wife stating:

"Dear ---,

We have received your Danish police certificate and we are still waiting for the Dutch police certificate.

Meanwhile our office would like you to fill out a new and updated version of the form G-325A. The version we received from you when your husband filed the petition does not state that you have been residing in the Netherlands and is also listing that you are residing in Norway at the moment.

Please remember to sign the form before you mail it to the embassy.""

This whole "residence over the last years" has been a bit confusing to us as our situation is unique as we are both graduate students and have spent 1-3 months several times at universities all over the world as part of our program but remaining remained as a full time student at our home university.

My wife and I both sent them a letter asking for clarification as it is difficule for us to inptepret what they want. We both received similar replies.

"Dear Mr. ---,

We are sorry about the confusion regarding the residency question. When we ask you to list where you have been residing we want you to list all addresses where you have been living. Residency in this context basically means where you spend the night even if it is for a 3-month exchange. So please list all addresses you have been living at no matter if you have been registered with the authorities in Sweden."

I guess my big question here is why exactly they would want a new copy of g325a? Wasent this step presumably over with when the i130 was approved and my wife scheduled for interview??

Please share any input you may have.

Thanks.

9/2006 Met in Sweden

2/2007 Began Dating in Holland

11/24/2007 Married (nairobi)

Clerk wedding 12/14/2007 (nairobi)

12/21/2007 Filed DCF

2/13/2008 Interview 221g

Waiting

3/26/2008 Approved

3 months 6 days from filing to approval including 221g AP.

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I guess my big question here is why exactly they would want a new copy of g325a? Wasent this step presumably over with when the i130 was approved and my wife scheduled for interview??

Please share any input you may have.

Thanks.

My opinion is no.

- Every form you fill out in this process becomes part of the entire immigration/visa file, in a way it seems as though you have put them in to 'slots' - this is for the I-130, this is for the interview etc etc - it doesn't work that way.

- You filled in the G-325A incorrectly (not a criticism - just a statement) - since this has come to light, how can they not ask you to correct it?

Anyway, I'm sure once you have made the corrections it will be fine, good luck :thumbs:

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Morocco
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Just do anything they ask....and return it to them

TIMELINE

04/04/2007 K1 Interview from H...w/the devil herself

06/12/2007 Rec'd Notification Case Now Back In Calif. only to expire

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11/20/2007 Married in Morocco

02/23/2008 Mailed CR1 application today

03/08/2008 NOA1 Notice Recd (notice date 3/4/08)

08/26/2008 File transfered fr Vermont to Calif

10/14/2008 APPROVALLLLLLLLLLLL

10/20/2008 Recd hard copy NOA2

10/20/2008 NVC Recd case

11/21/2008 CASE COMPLETE

01/15/2009 INTERVIEW

01/16/2009 VISA IN HAND

01/31/2009 ARRIVED OKC

BE WHO YOU ARE AND SAY WHAT YOU FEEL, BECAUSE THOSE WHO MIND DONT MATTER AND THOSE WHO MATTER DONT MIND

YOU CANT CHANGE THE PAST BUT YOU CAN RUIN THE PRESENT BY WORRYING OVER THE FUTURE

TRIP.... OVER LOVE, AND YOU CAN GET UP

FALL.... IN LOVE, AND YOU FALL FOREVER

I DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT, JUST NOT THE ABILITY

LIKE THE MEASLES, LOVE IS MOST DANGEROUS WHEN IT COMES LATER IN LIFE

LIFE IS NOT THE WAY ITS SUPPOSED TO BE, ITS THE WAY IT IS

I MAY NOT BE WHERE I WANT TO BE BUT IM SURE NOT WHERE I WAS

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"Dear Mr. ---,

We are sorry about the confusion regarding the residency question. When we ask you to list where you have been residing we want you to list all addresses where you have been living. Residency in this context basically means where you spend the night even if it is for a 3-month exchange. So please list all addresses you have been living at no matter if you have been registered with the authorities in Sweden."

I guess my big question here is why exactly they would want a new copy of g325a? Wasent this step presumably over with when the i130 was approved and my wife scheduled for interview??

Please share any input you may have.

Thanks.

That is why they are requiring a new G325a -- so you can list all places where you lived, even if for 3 months. If this was not stated/listed in your first G325a, you were likely to get an RFE like this one: sorry that it was after the interview. Send the new forms again, and you should hear from them soon (when they receive the other police certificates, etc.).

Good luck.

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Hi all,

My wife spoke with the embassy today and they said that they have received everything that they requested and need and that the application and her passport are sitting on the consulars desk for him to make his decision. I think and hope all will be fine and her passport and visa package will be sent out shortly.

However ones mind cant help but wander during times like this think of best and worst case scenerios.

Here is a question.

If for some reason he is not satisfied, what happens next. I understand that in the darker 221g cases the application is sent back to the uscis center where the petition was originally approved, people wait for a NOID etc. etc..

Since ours was filed directly with the consulate and they are the ones who initially approved the i-130, how would that next step work in our case?

Thanks.

9/2006 Met in Sweden

2/2007 Began Dating in Holland

11/24/2007 Married (nairobi)

Clerk wedding 12/14/2007 (nairobi)

12/21/2007 Filed DCF

2/13/2008 Interview 221g

Waiting

3/26/2008 Approved

3 months 6 days from filing to approval including 221g AP.

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9/2006 Met in Sweden

2/2007 Began Dating in Holland

11/24/2007 Married (nairobi)

Clerk wedding 12/14/2007 (nairobi)

12/21/2007 Filed DCF

2/13/2008 Interview 221g

Waiting

3/26/2008 Approved

3 months 6 days from filing to approval including 221g AP.

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