question about Club Colombia

[Mountain777 0]

I tried posting on Club Colombia but I can's access the actual Club Colombia. Does anyone know how it works?

At any rate I will ask my question here..... Both Colombia and the US requires that both biological parents sign for a minor child to leave Colombia and immigrate to the US with the one parent (my wife). At what time during this visa process does the US GOV ask for this document? Thanks

[parkpapa 0]

I tried posting on Club Colombia but I can's access the actual Club Colombia. Does anyone know how it works?

At any rate I will ask my question here..... Both Colombia and the US requires that both biological parents sign for a minor child to leave Colombia and immigrate to the US with the one parent (my wife). At what time during this visa process does the US GOV ask for this document? Thanks

This is, I believe, a requirement of the Colombian government and not the US. DAS in Colombia will want to see this letter when your wife and her child leave the country. It should be a recent letter, if possible, and should be notarized. Also, keep in mind that if your wife and child return to Colombia for a visit in the future, they will need another notarized letter from the father for the child to leave. This will likely be true until the child reaches legal age. The only way around this requirement that I know of is for the father to grant (or the mother to legally take) all parental rights to the child. This process, from what I hear, can take several months, and only that fast if both parties agree.

Best of luck!

Charles

[Mononoke28 135]

This is the link for the Colombian Club http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2572

All you have to do is post your comment or question and someone will try to help.

Also, the document needed to leave the country can't be more than a week old. Recently someone from the Colombian Club had an issue with the document not being that recent and they were stopped at check in the day they were supposed to leave Colombia.

Diana

[Mountain777 0]

This is the link for the Colombian Club http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2572

All you have to do is post your comment or question and someone will try to help.

Also, the document needed to leave the country can't be more than a week old. Recently someone from the Colombian Club had an issue with the document not being that recent and they were stopped at check in the day they were supposed to leave Colombia.

Diana

We were told that we can go to a notoria here and sign a paper that lets the mother take her daughter to and from Colombia forever. This is the requirment is what we are told.

[SteveSandyHill 0]

I can comment on our situation, hopefully it will help you. My wife and daughter recieved their visa's January 18th. We had a document, from the father giving the child permission to leave the country "Permantly", key word here and required. Now that being said, we hit a snag at the El Dorodo Airport in Bogota. The final DAS checkpoint, I say final, because we had to produce the document at the ticket counter as well. We where informed that the document was in fact outdated, this document WE where told was valid for 60 days, ours was 74 days old. My fiance at the time was taken into a room and had to contact the childs father via cellphone to confirm it was still okay to remove the child! This can be a major headache, she was nearly unable to leave. So be safe, yes notorized, and within two months of your departure date. Hope this helps.

P.S. They reminded my wife during her interview, she would need the document, yet never informed us of the timeframe of validity. Good luck!

[NArocks 13]

The letter we had done here in the US at the Colombian Embassy was then stamped at an address in Bogota, it was a little over a month old and allowed both boys to leave. No snags at the airport. Yes my suggestion is as recent as possible to avoid what happened to steveandsandy. I know in our case the embassy did not ask about the letter. We did have to send a notorized letter to the NVC showing that the children were permitted to immigrate to the US, this letter was from the mom as I am the USC pettioner and married to the childrens dad.

[Mountain777 0]

The letter we had done here in the US at the Colombian Embassy was then stamped at an address in Bogota, it was a little over a month old and allowed both boys to leave. No snags at the airport. Yes my suggestion is as recent as possible to avoid what happened to steveandsandy. I know in our case the embassy did not ask about the letter. We did have to send a notorized letter to the NVC showing that the children were permitted to immigrate to the US, this letter was from the mom as I am the USC pettioner and married to the childrens dad.

Hi narocks,

Can you tell me what letter that NVC asked for? Did they ask for the paper signed by the two parents? Because we do not yet have this paper signed by the father. He is giving us a hard time about this. We hope to have it by the time of the interview. He insists that it is only needed at the airport and refuses to sign anything until then. We tried to explain to him that it will be needed by the NVC and the embassy! Can you confirm?

Did you make up the documnet yourselves and what did it have to say besides to remove the child permantly from Colombia? How long was it valid for? Did the embassy ask to see the document? Were you required to give your physical address personal info ect? I ask cause we don't really want the him to know too much. He has been abusive towards my wife in the past and we are just trying to get him to sign this and want nothing more to do with him.

PS- Did the embassy ask the child any questions?

[parkpapa 0]

The letter we had done here in the US at the Colombian Embassy was then stamped at an address in Bogota, it was a little over a month old and allowed both boys to leave. No snags at the airport. Yes my suggestion is as recent as possible to avoid what happened to steveandsandy. I know in our case the embassy did not ask about the letter. We did have to send a notorized letter to the NVC showing that the children were permitted to immigrate to the US, this letter was from the mom as I am the USC pettioner and married to the childrens dad.

Hi narocks,

Can you tell me what letter that NVC asked for? Did they ask for the paper signed by the two parents? Because we do not yet have this paper signed by the father. He is giving us a hard time about this. We hope to have it by the time of the interview. He insists that it is only needed at the airport and refuses to sign anything until then. We tried to explain to him that it will be needed by the NVC and the embassy! Can you confirm?

Did you make up the documnet yourselves and what did it have to say besides to remove the child permantly from Colombia? How long was it valid for? Did the embassy ask to see the document? Were you required to give your physical address personal info ect? I ask cause we don't really want the him to know too much. He has been abusive towards my wife in the past and we are just trying to get him to sign this and want nothing more to do with him.

PS- Did the embassy ask the child any questions?

I don't mean to butt in here, but we went through the same thing with needing a letter from the father. The embassy and NVC are unlikely to ask about or even care about such a letter. The only ones that will care are DAS at the Bogota airport. Permission is required from both parents for a child to leave Colombia, unless there is proof that one parent has given up legal rights to the child or is deceased. The letters, no matter how they are written, are good for one departure only. So, the next time the child visits Colombia, he/she will need another permission letter from the father to leave for the United States again.

As for the letter, our letter states basically the following (all in Spanish, of course):

I, (father's name), of legal age, with citizenship number XXXX issued in (city, state, country), by this document give permission for my minor child(ren) (child's name) identified by civil registry number XXXX and passport number XXXX to leave the country and enter the United States in the company of his/her mother (mother's name), identified by citzenship number XXXX issued in (city, state, country). This trip is anticipated in or before (month and year) and this permission and authorization is in effect from now until the date of travel.

Signature and Notary stamp

The only other option, with the father still living and wanting rights over the child(ren), is for the mother to seek sole custody through Colombian courts. This will require not only proof of abandonement or abuse, but will also take several months to obtain. I'm guessing this is not an option you want to pursue.

Sorry I didn't see this thread sooner, and I hope you already have the answer you needed.

Charles

[resq39 0]

I just recieved RFE for this very information. Appearantly since the NVC collects all documents and make the appointment in some countries now it a requirement. However that said there is no way for yo to know ahead of time because it is not in the requested documents. After humiliating the idiot at the NVC I requested that he provide where he got his information from. All I heard was I don't know. I have a formal request into congressman Martinez to look into it. Won't help me but maybe some other unsuspecting soul.