What documents will be enough

[Cecile and Bryan 0]

Hello, I'm far from AOS since we're still on the K1 process, but I'm wondering about a few things.

My fiance (the US citizen) currently lives in some of his friends' house. They bought a house several months ago, and told him he could come to live there since it was big enough. He pays them a rent each month.

When I (the foreign fiance) come to the US and marry him, we are planning on living in that same house, at least until I can work, but maybe even longer if we decide to.

What I'm wondering about is the evidences for the AOS interview. His name isn't on any paperwork/bills for the house. no utility bills, etc. The only things with his name related to the house is the mail he gets there, and (I suppose) the address he wrote on his property taxes. (though I'm just assuming; I don't even know what that paperwork looks like in the US).

So, he's not going to be able to add me on any of the utility bills and such.

We're planning on having a joint bank account.

He'll add me on his insurance until I can get my own.

We'll have a small wedding and i'm sure we'll manage to have lots of pictures.

He has bills to pay for his car, insurance, credit card. but I don't know if he can add me on that.

What else would be good evidence?

[payxibka 10,045]

Not all will be interviewed... Hoever, you simply provide the evidence that you do have... You may not own the house but if you receive mail there then that is a start...

[reeses16 8]

Exactly what fwaguy said, present what you have. Things like lease/title and utility bills are helpful, they prove you live together, but they are not necessary.

Here are a few of the things we sent for evidence AOS: 4 wedding photos, copy of our insurance enrollment form. Change of address confirmation cards from the post office (both names same address, we stayed with family before moving to our own place), boarding passes & receipt for a flight, and a bank statement.

When we apply for removal of conditions we will add a few things. I think the point is not to overwhelm USCIS with evidence, just to prove your point. But trust me, I don't think I would have ever said this while I was going through the K1 phases! lol.

[kimandfred 0]

Hi Cecile,

I think the only evidence of our marriage that we sent in the AOS package was the marriage certificate, because it's all the guides suggested. If we're interviewed (which may or may not happen, our case was sent to California, and word is that there's a chance you won't be interviewed if you get sent there) then we'll take the photos, bank accounts, etc. with us. However, other proofs are getting on his health insurance, car insurance, joint bank accounts, and credit cards.

[Cecile and Bryan 0]

Thank you everyone

So, everything should be fine for AOS.

But would it be harder for the Removal of conditions? Do we need more things for that?

[reeses16 8]

Removal of conditions pretty much has the same requirements. I would just make sure you send them updated information: A recent bank statement, insurance enrollment/confirmation for the year in which you file removal, copy of a tax return (if married filing jointly). Basically the same stuff, but updated.

[Bernie4Bien 0]

You can let the owner of the house write a letter stating your husband's (to be) name and your name are living at such address (state address) and are renting it. That way you have established both your residence. You can also include a receipt of the rental payment (hopefully they are doing this). As much as possible let your fiance's friend (the owner of the house he is renting) write both of your names in the receipt.

Hope this helps.

Edited February 28, 2008 by Bernie4Bien

[Cecile and Bryan 0]

You can also include a receipt of the rental payment (hopefully they are doing this).

No, I don't think they do that.

But the idea of a letter from the owner would be a good idea. Thank you

[ELW 5]

You can let the owner of the house write a letter stating your husband's (to be) name and your name are living at such address (state address) and are renting it.

I agree with this, definitely do that. I heard at one interview the couple were living with the USC's parents. The CO requested a letter from the parents stating that they were living there and paying rent, before the case would be approved!

Your other evidence is sufficient. You could also add statements (notarized affidavits) from 2-3 friends and family, saying they know you as a couple and you are committed to each other, etc. That's what we did.

[Chris and Janaina 0]

Cecile and Bryan,

I'm new here (only my second post!) but I also agree with Bernie4Bien.

Your fiance could write up a simple rental agreement, and ask his roommate to sign it.

Rental Agreement

"Starting June 1 2006, Bryan is to rent the second-floor bedroom at 123 Main Street, for $500 per month, with all utilities included." Something like that.

Pre-made "rent receipts" are availably inexpensively at any office-supply store here in the US. Staples or OfficeMax should carry them. Last night I was in Walgreens, a popular pharmacy here, and they have them too.

[Cécy 44]

Bonjour,

First off; keep in mind that most of the proof you will have to provide, you will only need to have at the time of interview. That gives you some time to build up extra documents.

If you feel like getting ready ahead of time check out this: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...mp;page=k1k3aos you can download the different document you will have to file when you apply and get familiar with what should be provided.

Also to help you with the proof part; check that guide out: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...page=i130guide2 this is for those who apply for AOS while being in the US under a different visa, that's the only case when extra proof is required when you apply, but the list give on what to provide is quite useful for just about anyone:

1. Documentation showing joint ownership or property; or

2. A lease showing joint tenancy of a common residence; or

3. Documentation showing co-mingling of financial resources; or

4. Birth certificate(s) of child(ren) born to you, the petitioner, and your spouse together; or

5. Affidavits sworn to or affirmed by third parties having personal knowledge of the bona fides of the marital relationship (Each affidavit must contain the full name and address, date and place of birth of the person making the affidavit, his or her relationship to the petitioner ofbeneficiary, if any, and complete information and details explaining how the person acquired his or her knowledge of your marriage); or

6. Any other relevant documentation to establish that there is an ongoing marital union.

If you are worried about having the right documents then provide one of two affidavits sworn by a 3rd party who knows both of you is a good option. And here is a thread about the sworn statement: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/lofivers...php/t83684.html

See if you can be added on his cell phone bill. Inssurance is always a good thing (medical insurance; car insurance, etc). Obtain a driving license (depending on where you live, you'll probably have to wait until the EAD) and bring both licenses to the interview as you will have the same address on it.

Something different but. Since you are from France don't forget to bring your Carnet de Santé with you. Also if you want to have your marriage registered in France too. I found out that you can ask the Consulate to do the "publication des bancs" before the marriage. So get in touch with the consulate you'll depend of to make sure you have everything. Plus you'll need certain papers to register at the consulate (less than 3 months old certificat de naissance, If you're like me you also need the certificat de preparation a la defense, etc.)

Good luck.

[Cecile and Bryan 0]

Thank you

I'm going to wait a little longer before downloading the documents for AOS. I was only worried about the proofs. Though "worried" might not be the right word to use since I knew you would all have plenty of ideas to share

About the "publication des bans" I was reading information about it this morning. I will definitely have to get it touch with the consulate. I didn't know I would need my "carnet de santé" for AOS though.

[Cécy 44]

Thank you

I'm going to wait a little longer before downloading the documents for AOS. I was only worried about the proofs. Though "worried" might not be the right word to use since I knew you would all have plenty of ideas to share

About the "publication des bans" I was reading information about it this morning. I will definitely have to get it touch with the consulate. I didn't know I would need my "carnet de santé" for AOS though.

You don't need it for AOS. But it's definitely something good to bring with you. If there are questions about the vaccines when you get the vaccinations supplement, it can be useful. Also as a general rule, it's good for you to have this since it carries most of your medical history.