Now about opium in the Quran

[Nutty 2]

Since eveyone is questioning about alcohol...

I have heard that opium is the only permissable drug by Quran because it does not alter your thinking process.

What have you heard?

[dawnnhatem 0]

Koran says opium doesn't alter your thought process-really? Where is that? I'm not doubting you, I just wanna see it

dawn

[~Jackie~ 30]

hey dawn............hi

jJ

[Nutty 2]

I did not say the Quran said, "opium does not alter your thought process"

Let me re-phrase this:

Opium is smoked by many people in central and middle east. I asked about this and was told it is not haraam. Why? Because drugs like alcohol, cannibis, cocaine change the way you think. But opium does not, it slows you down, elminates pain.

I was curious so I smoked it once (there in Iran).

Let me say, two advil pm's pack more a punch than opium. Kept waiting for something to "happen." Nothing did. Just got a little queezy in the stomach.

Edited February 27, 2008 by Nutty

[doodlebugg 10]

I did not say the Quran said, "opium does not alter your thought process"

No but you did say,

I have heard that opium is the only permissable drug by Quran because it does not alter your thinking process.

so it's kind of a normal response to ask where in the Quran it says this.

Opium is smoked by many people in central and middle east. I asked about this and was told it is not haraam. Why? Because drugs like alcohol, cannibis, cocaine change the way you think. But opium does not, it slows you down, elminates pain.

I know many who think that cannabis is ok but not alcohol. They say this because it is not mentioned in the Quran, though alchohol is mentioned and cannabis existed back when alcohol was banned.

[sarahaziz 0]

rice contains opium...i loveeee arrozzzzz

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

How did I miss this thread ??????????????????????

[~Jackie~ 30]

WOM maybe it was your lucky day..lol

jJ

[Y's_habibitk 2]

Opium doesnt alter your state of mind??? hmmm..

Really? Maybe cuzz its "pure"... heh heh

I think the feeling of being "slowed down" is altered.

I know opiate derived drugs certainly do.. I can attest to them ripping famlies apart and causing permanent personality and mental disturbances, and things like "opiate withdraw induced pcychosis" lol

(ok thats really not funny is it?)

[~Jackie~ 30]

*puff puff pass* amal...you fire up that pineapple tonight?

jJ

[RAKASA 0]

Highlighted are some points of interest:

Opium

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This article is about the drug. For other meanings of "opium", see Opium (disambiguation). For opium-derived and opium-like substances, see Opiates and Opioids.

Opium is a narcotic formed from the latex (i.e. sap) released by lacerating (or "scoring") the immature seed pods of opium poppies (Papaver somniferum). It contains up to 16% morphine, an opiate alkaloid, which is most frequently processed chemically to produce heroin for the illegal drug trade. The resin also includes codeine and non-narcotic alkaloids, such as papaverine and noscapine. Meconium historically referred to related, weaker preparations made from other parts of the poppy or different species of poppies. Modern opium production is the culmination of millennia of production, in which the source poppy, methods of extraction and processing, and methods of consumption have become increasingly potent.

Cultivation of opium poppies for food, anesthesia, and ritual purposes dates back to at least the Neolithic Age. The Sumerian, Assyrian, Egyptian, Minoan, Greek, Roman, Persian and Arab Empires each made widespread use of opium, which was the most potent form of pain relief then available, allowing ancient surgeons to perform prolonged surgical procedures. Opium is mentioned in the most important medical texts of the ancient world, including the Ebers Papyrus and the writings of Dioscorides, Galen, and Avicenna. Widespread medical use of unprocessed opium continued through the American Civil War before giving way to morphine and its successors, which could be injected at a precisely controlled dosage. American morphine is still produced primarily from poppies grown and processed in India in the traditional manner, and remains the standard of pain relief for casualties of war.

Recreational use of the drug began in China in the fifteenth century, but was limited by its rarity and expense. Opium trade became more regular by the seventeenth century, when it was mixed with tobacco for smoking, and addiction was first recognized. Opium prohibition in China began in 1729, and was followed by nearly two centuries of exponentially increasing opium use. China had a positive balance sheet in trading with the British, which led to a decrease of the British silver stocks. Therefore, the British tried to make the Chinese people dependent on opium to enhance their balance, they delivered it from Indian provinces under British control. A massive confiscation of opium by the Chinese emperor, who tried to stop the opium deliveries, led to two Opium Wars in 1840 and 1858, in which consequence Britain suppressed China and traded opium all over the country. After 1860 opium use continued to increase with widespread domestic production in China, until more than a quarter of the male population was addicted by 1905. Recreational or addictive opium use in other nations remained rare into the late nineteenth century, recorded by an ambivalent literature that sometimes praised the drug.

Global regulation of opium began with the stigmatization of Chinese immigrants and opium dens, leading rapidly from town ordinances in the 1870s to the formation of the International Opium Commission in 1909. During this period the portrayal of opium in literature became squalid and violent, British opium trade was largely supplanted by domestic Chinese production, purified morphine and heroin became widely available for injection, and patent medicines containing opiates reached a peak of popularity. Opium was prohibited in many countries during the early twentieth century, leading to the modern pattern of opium production as a precursor for illegal recreational drugs or tightly regulated legal prescription drugs. Illicit opium production, now dominated by Afghanistan, has increased steadily in recent years to over 6600 tons yearly, nearly one-fifth the level of production in 1906. Opium for illegal use is often converted into heroin, which exponentially multiplies its potency, and can be taken by intravenous injection, and is easier to smuggle.

[caybee 21]

(Nice bike in your meez, ME~n~HIM! :-))

Sounds a bit like splitting hairs to justify behavior to me, but I'll wait to see what the experts say. :-)

[doodlebugg 10]

If opium is heroin then I pity whoever tries it even once. I heard that it's harder to quit than cigarettes and although I have not smoked a cigarette in 5 years I STILL crave them every now and then!

[sarahaziz 0]

i never smoked cigarettes before and I crave them every now and then