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Posted

I apologize if this is already discussed in this forum earlier. I could not find any posts regarding my situation.

Let me give some background. I am about to file N-400 for my wife. I am a US citizen. My wife has been in United States for last 3 years. She did not travel outside of United States in the last 3 years.

The question 7A on the N-400 application goes like this: "How many total days did you spend outside of the United States during the past five years?" What should be my answer here? She spent 2 years in India before coming here and then she spent last 3 years in USA. She never travelled outside of USA in the last 3 years.

Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Canada
Timeline
Posted

The big donut, zero, nada, they are only concerned with days since becoming an LPR.

IR1

April 14, 2004 I-130 NOA1

April 25, 2005 IR1 Received

April 26, 2005 POE Dorval Airport

May 13, 2005 Welcome to America Letters Received

May 21, 2005 PR Card in Mail

May 26, 2005 Applied for SSN at local office

June 06, 2005 SSN Received

June 11, 2005 Driver Licence Issued!

June 20, 2005 Deb gets a Check Card! Just like Donald Trump's!

Citizenship

Jan 30, 2008 N400 Mailed off to the VSC!

Feb 2, 2008 N400 Received at VSC

Feb 6, 2008 Check Cashed!

Feb 13, 2008 NOA1 Received

Feb 15, 2008 Fingerprint letter received. (Feb 26th scheduled)

Feb 18, 2008 Mailed out the old Please Reschedule us for Biometics <sigh>...

Feb 27, 2008 Received the new scheduled biometrics.

Mar 15, 2008 Biometrics Rescheduled.

Sep 18, 2008 Interview Letter Recieved.

Nov 11, 2008 Interview Passed :-).

Nov 14, 2008 Oath Cerimony.

Posted

yes, cmartyn is right. 0 will be fine.

an attorney told me before, it's alright to cross out the "five" on the app, and write "three" on the form. I did that on my N400 too, I submitted the form 3 weeks ago...

N400

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2/8/08 Sent N400

2/12/08 CSC rec'd/Priority Date

2/15/08 Check cashed

2/22/08 Rec'd NOA1

2/23/08 Rec'd FP letter

3/6/08 FP appt

6/5/08 Rec'd IL

7/22/08 Interview

Filed: Other Country: United Kingdom
Timeline
Posted

There was some debate on this question in january: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=104942

We weren't sure what to put either, and we've been debating. I think we will count it for the three years, since it makes no sense to count the time before he moved here. I kind of like the idea of crossing out the five and putting three.

Filed: Timeline
Posted

Thanks for the reply.

I am really confused about this. If you read the question 7A in absence of any other background information then the answer would be 2 years * 365 days = 730 days. Doesn't it?

The exact question is: "How many total days did you spend outside of the United States during the past five years?"

Posted

i actually counted the number of days....it was 610. then i attached an explanation that i didn't go out of the country since coming here in 04. i hope that was ok, only submitted the application 2 days ago.

Lord blessed be Your name!

K1:

NOA 1 - March 31 2004

NOA 2 - July 7

to Manila - July 30

called embassy for interview date - Aug 17

Recvd K packet - Aug 24

CFO - Sept 7

Medical - Sept 15 & 16

Interview - Oct 8

Visa on hand - Oct 13 YES! thank You God!

POE - October 23

AOS & EAD:

Marriage at the beautiful St. Croix U.S. Virgin Islands - Nov 6

SSN - Nov 29

State ID - Dec 1

AOS & EAD applied for - Dec. 6

NOAs for AOS & EAD - recvd mail on Dec 15 but receipt date is Dec 8

got TD shot for AOS - Dec. 15 paid $15

passd written exam for DL- Jan 03 2005

Biometrics for EAD & AOS - Jan 10

Biometrics AGAIN (???) - Feb 2

EAD recved - Jan 29

recved AOS interview letter - march 2

AOS interview - april 27 SUCCESS!! Thank You so much God! You never fail.

welcome to America letter - may 2

recvd "green" card - may 5 2005

got driver's license - may 20

removing conditions:

lifting of conditions on GC - jan 31 2007

NOA date - february 06

recvd NOA - february 26

recvd biometrics apptmnt letter - march 2

biometrics appt - march 12

citizenship:

sent N-400: february 25, 2008

recved: february 27

priority date: february 27

notice date: march 4

recved NOA1: march 6

recved biometrics letter: march 10

biometrics: march 19

intrvw letter rec'd: april 3

intrvw: may 13 - APPROVED!

Oath - Sept. 17

US Passport - Sept 26

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Posted
Thanks for the reply.

I am really confused about this. If you read the question 7A in absence of any other background information then the answer would be 2 years * 365 days = 730 days. Doesn't it?

The exact question is: "How many total days did you spend outside of the United States during the past five years?"

The question is asked in general sense. Usually, a permament resident can apply for US citizenship after 5 year's (4-yr 9-month is fine also) of continuos permanent residency. Only a spouse of a US citizen and military personnel can apply for US citizenship after 3 year's of continuous permanent residency. Crofton, I would just write a note that your wife has never been out of USA in the last 3 years and she was in India for 2 years prior to that.

They should have ask the question more clearly, "How many total days did you spend outside of the United States during the past five years (past three years to whomever it is applicable to)?"

I-130 Timeline with USCIS:

It took 92 days for I-130 to get approved from the filing date

NVC Process of I-130:

It took 78 days to complete the NVC process

Interview Process at The U.S. Embassy

Interview took 223 days from the I-130 filing date. Immigrant Visa was issued right after the interview

Posted

That's gotta be one of the most confusing things on the form. In most cases, you should take the questions very literally and answer them exactly as written. But this seems to be a potential exception.

We did the "cross out the five and write three" thing, and answered it for three years.

I know that the only legal requirement concerns the past three years, if you're applying based on three years married to a USC.

But if you answer that question for the last five years, and give the correct dates of travel, that should give them enough information to figure out that you met the requirements, and that's the important thing.

They'll go over the N-400 in person at the interview anyway, to make sure you still meet the requirements. So you'll get a chance to explain things then.

04 Apr, 2004: Got married

05 Apr, 2004: I-130 Sent to CSC

13 Apr, 2004: I-130 NOA 1

19 Apr, 2004: I-129F Sent to MSC

29 Apr, 2004: I-129F NOA 1

13 Aug, 2004: I-130 Approved by CSC

28 Dec, 2004: I-130 Case Complete at NVC

18 Jan, 2005: Got the visa approved in Caracas

22 Jan, 2005: Flew home together! CCS->MIA->SFO

25 May, 2005: I-129F finally approved! We won't pursue it.

8 June, 2006: Our baby girl is born!

24 Oct, 2006: Window for filing I-751 opens

25 Oct, 2006: I-751 mailed to CSC

18 Nov, 2006: I-751 NOA1 received from CSC

30 Nov, 2006: I-751 Biometrics taken

05 Apr, 2007: I-751 approved, card production ordered

23 Jan, 2008: N-400 sent to CSC via certified mail

19 Feb, 2008: N-400 Biometrics taken

27 Mar, 2008: Naturalization interview notice received (NOA2 for N-400)

30 May, 2008: Naturalization interview, passed the test!

17 June, 2008: Naturalization oath notice mailed

15 July, 2008: Naturalization oath ceremony!

16 July, 2008: Registered to vote and applied for US passport

26 July, 2008: US Passport arrived.

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: England
Timeline
Posted (edited)

I put how many days I have visited abroad in the past 3 years, since I am applying on the basis of being married and living here for 3 years. I think it is an ambiguous question, and I feel they ask this question in order to find out if you have really been residing in the US since becoming a resident - be it for 5 or 3 years. Why would they care where i've visited before coming here as a permanent resident? I have already answered that question as a K1! They should have put 5/3 years as applicable. :star:

Edited by laura19angel

N-400

Sent 5/20/08

Check cashed 5/23/08 - That's fast!

NOA 1 5/29/08

Biometrics 6/13/08

Interview scheduled 11/25/08 Passed!!!!!!!!!!!

Oath 12/11/08

Posted
I put how many days I have visited abroad in the past 3 years, since I am applying on the basis of being married and living here for 3 years. I think it is an ambiguous question, and I feel they ask this question in order to find out if you have really been residing in the US since becoming a resident - be it for 5 or 3 years. Why would they care where i've visited before coming here as a permanent resident? I have already answered that question as a K1! They should have put 5/3 years as applicable. :star:

Thanks laura19angel.

I will put 0 for both , cross the 5 and put 3.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Colombia
Timeline
Posted

The last five years!

Where did you live, where were you employed, and how many days were you out of the country? Only thing that made sense was to list the number of days you were out of the country since becoming a permanent resident. Just took these questions in their literal sense and made sure all these dates were correct. In the last five years including trips, wife spent 409 days out of the country and that matched exactly with her addresses and employment history and our trips.

Next question, five years from what date? Specified the date she signed the application, even though it was 88 days before she was actually eligible. Also had problems with how many times I was married, question infers previous marriages, but they actually want the total number of marriages. Found an old pre DHS citizen application, was actually written in English without these questions. Last debating point as my wife is a very charitable person has she joined fund raising organizations. Yes, the United Way, American Heart Association, Smile, and the Angel Fund, question infers if these organizations are such as to overthrow the US government, but checked with my attorney on that as well as previous or total marriages, list them as they do not specify what type of organization.

Not sure if I agree on changing the form by crossing out the five and making it a three, in other legal terms, you don't change the form, if they say five years, I take that to mean five years.

Ha, did you come here to overthrow the US government? Guess that is one way to catch the bad guys.

It's up to the USCIS to make corrections to their forms, just answer their questions to the best of our ability, but made sure all the dates matched and we have proof of those dates.

 
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