McCain disavows comments about Obama

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

You're still avoiding the question: Why is he singled out for this treatment?

No I am not, your avoiding my question. What is wrong with using his real name?

I've answered your question: He's singled out for the treatment. That's what's wrong.

So, now answer mine: Why is he singled out?

It takes a special kind of blinders not to see that the guys repeating "Barack Hussein Osama, oops, teehee, we mean Obama" aren't just trying to make a point about how a well-chosen middle name can make the first and last name flow nicely together. They're trying to get prejudiced idiots to make the Muslim = Obama = 9/11, every day of the year! connection.

Agreed. It is a bit silly to deny a clearly established context - especially when it involves a talk radio host, well known for saying inflammatory things.

[AnewKINDofFEELIN 0]

People often use Hillary's middle name when discussing her.

BS. I never heard anyone referring to her as Hillary Diane Clinton. Hillary Rodham Clinton, yes. But Rodham is her maiden rather than her middle name. And ever since she is running for the Presidential nomination, the use of her maiden name has pretty much stopped.

I'm glad you were here to refute that little nugget.

[simple_male 1]

i dont normally contribute to these type of political threads but this must be said

the reason cunningham used his middle name is the same as the reason ann coulter repeatedly called him b. hussein obama

there is obviously a reason why they are emphasizing his middle name - it is to connect in people's minds the image they have of sadaam hussein with obama

i really dont understand how you keep playing dumb, gary c and just see the tactic for what it is - im very sure it is just you being stubborn as you provide no other explanation than 'whats wrong with saying his middle name'

no there isnt anything wrong with using his middle name, that isnt really the point though is it? it's in what context and what unspoken thing they are trying to imply and connect obama to that is questionable

Well stated.

Yes, well stated. There is nothing wrong using his middle name, but the point is he was singled out for his middle name which is very simple to understand. John McCain did a great job distancing himself from this.

[GaryC 7]

Ok, so the consensus here is it's wrong to use the mans real name.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Ok, so the consensus here is it's wrong to use the mans real name.

No - that's not the point at all. I'm not sure how many ways it can be explained to you.

[GaryC 7]

Ok, so the consensus here is it's wrong to use the mans real name.

No - that's not the point at all. I'm not sure how many ways it can be explained to you.

Oh you have explained it. You can't call him by his name because of the connotation of it. I just think it's PC BS. It's his name and there isn't anything wrong in using it. You might as well get used to hearing it though. While McCain may not use his full name there will be a multitude of others that will.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Ok, so the consensus here is it's wrong to use the mans real name.

No - that's not the point at all. I'm not sure how many ways it can be explained to you.

Oh you have explained it. You can't call him by his name because of the connotation of it. I just think it's PC BS. It's his name and there isn't anything wrong in using it. You might as well get used to hearing it though. While McCain may not use his full name there will be a multitude of others that will.

There isn't anything wrong with using the man's name - if there isn't an agenda behind spelling it out.

If McCain's middle name was Adolf, and people started calling him John Adolf McCain in relation to his being a conservative Bush-crony - do you think that would be fair?

In that respect - John McCain's middle name is actually Sidney. So let me ask you - why aren't commentators calling him John Sidney McCain? Similarly why aren't they referring to Hillary as Hillary Diane Clinton?

[simple_male 1]

Ok, so the consensus here is it's wrong to use the mans real name.

No - that's not the point at all. I'm not sure how many ways it can be explained to you.

Oh you have explained it. You can't call him by his name because of the connotation of it. I just think it's PC BS. It's his name and there isn't anything wrong in using it. You might as well get used to hearing it though. While McCain may not use his full name there will be a multitude of others that will.

Gary, my friend, no one said that it is wrong to use his full name. But many including McCain objected the fact the Obama was singled out for his middle name. I am sure, all Obama supporters know what is his middle name. I even don't know what is McCain's middle name (for sure, it is not Hussein).

[GaryC 7]

Ok, so the consensus here is it's wrong to use the mans real name.

No - that's not the point at all. I'm not sure how many ways it can be explained to you.

Oh you have explained it. You can't call him by his name because of the connotation of it. I just think it's PC BS. It's his name and there isn't anything wrong in using it. You might as well get used to hearing it though. While McCain may not use his full name there will be a multitude of others that will.

There isn't anything wrong with using the man's name - if there isn't an agenda behind spelling it out.

If McCain's middle name was Adolf, and people started calling him John Adolf McCain in relation to his being a conservative Bush-crony - do you think that would be fair?

In that respect - John McCain's middle name is actually Sidney. So let me ask you - why aren't commentators calling him John Sidney McCain? Similarly why aren't they referring to Hillary as Hillary Diane Clinton?

If McCain's middle name was Adolf then I think it would be fair to use it. It would be his name after all. Look, I don't care what the mans middle name is. I know it makes no difference as to his views. To me this is an exercise in being PC and I hate it. It's not like people are saying Barak Saddam Hussein Obama, they are just saying his real and correct name.

Edited February 27, 2008 by GaryC

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Ok, so the consensus here is it's wrong to use the mans real name.

No - that's not the point at all. I'm not sure how many ways it can be explained to you.

Oh you have explained it. You can't call him by his name because of the connotation of it. I just think it's PC BS. It's his name and there isn't anything wrong in using it. You might as well get used to hearing it though. While McCain may not use his full name there will be a multitude of others that will.

There isn't anything wrong with using the man's name - if there isn't an agenda behind spelling it out.

If McCain's middle name was Adolf, and people started calling him John Adolf McCain in relation to his being a conservative Bush-crony - do you think that would be fair?

In that respect - John McCain's middle name is actually Sidney. So let me ask you - why aren't commentators calling him John Sidney McCain? Similarly why aren't they referring to Hillary as Hillary Diane Clinton?

If McCain's middle name was Adolf then I think it would be fair to use it. It would be his name after all. Look, I don't care what the mans middle name is. I know it makes no difference as to his views. To me this is an exercise in being PC and I hate it. It's not like people are putting saying Barak Saddam Hussein Obama, they are just saying his real and correct name.

So. Again. why aren't they calling any of the other candidates by their full names?

Why is it relevant to do this in Obama's case, but not the other candidates?

Why isn't John McCain being referred to as John Sidney McCain?

Edited February 27, 2008 by Number 6

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[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Ok, so the consensus here is it's wrong to use the mans real name.

Only if a republican uses it. What I heard about Obama's church minister going to Libya with Farakhan was a little disturbing though. Kinda odd there is absolutely nothing being said by the media about that.

[GaryC 7]

Ok, so the consensus here is it's wrong to use the mans real name.

No - that's not the point at all. I'm not sure how many ways it can be explained to you.

Oh you have explained it. You can't call him by his name because of the connotation of it. I just think it's PC BS. It's his name and there isn't anything wrong in using it. You might as well get used to hearing it though. While McCain may not use his full name there will be a multitude of others that will.

There isn't anything wrong with using the man's name - if there isn't an agenda behind spelling it out.

If McCain's middle name was Adolf, and people started calling him John Adolf McCain in relation to his being a conservative Bush-crony - do you think that would be fair?

In that respect - John McCain's middle name is actually Sidney. So let me ask you - why aren't commentators calling him John Sidney McCain? Similarly why aren't they referring to Hillary as Hillary Diane Clinton?

If McCain's middle name was Adolf then I think it would be fair to use it. It would be his name after all. Look, I don't care what the mans middle name is. I know it makes no difference as to his views. To me this is an exercise in being PC and I hate it. It's not like people are putting saying Barak Saddam Hussein Obama, they are just saying his real and correct name.

So. Again. why aren't they calling any of the other candidates by their full names?

Why is it relevant to do this in Obama's case, but not the other candidates?

So. Again. It doesn't matter if it's relevant. It's his middle name!! Why be shy about saying it?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Ok, so the consensus here is it's wrong to use the mans real name.

No - that's not the point at all. I'm not sure how many ways it can be explained to you.

Oh you have explained it. You can't call him by his name because of the connotation of it. I just think it's PC BS. It's his name and there isn't anything wrong in using it. You might as well get used to hearing it though. While McCain may not use his full name there will be a multitude of others that will.

There isn't anything wrong with using the man's name - if there isn't an agenda behind spelling it out.

If McCain's middle name was Adolf, and people started calling him John Adolf McCain in relation to his being a conservative Bush-crony - do you think that would be fair?

In that respect - John McCain's middle name is actually Sidney. So let me ask you - why aren't commentators calling him John Sidney McCain? Similarly why aren't they referring to Hillary as Hillary Diane Clinton?

If McCain's middle name was Adolf then I think it would be fair to use it. It would be his name after all. Look, I don't care what the mans middle name is. I know it makes no difference as to his views. To me this is an exercise in being PC and I hate it. It's not like people are putting saying Barak Saddam Hussein Obama, they are just saying his real and correct name.

So. Again. why aren't they calling any of the other candidates by their full names?

Why is it relevant to do this in Obama's case, but not the other candidates?

So. Again. It doesn't matter if it's relevant. It's his middle name!! Why be shy about saying it?

Stop dodging the question/s.

So. Again. why aren't they calling any of the other candidates by their full names?

Why is it relevant to do this in Obama's case, but not the other candidates?

Why isn't John McCain being referred to as John Sidney McCain?

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