Does the USC spouse have to sign citizenship forms?

[Oosie 1]

I had a call last night from a friend. Her USC husband has been told by his mother that he shouldn't sign her application for citizenship. She can apply in May and had planned to do this. Her husband is a mother's boy and will do whatever she tells him. The mother in law says my friend has a 10 year green card and needs nothing else. She told her son that if my friend gets citizendhip then she will divorce him. He is such an idiot that he believes this and is too stupid to know that she could divorce him now if she wanted to.

Can my friend still apply for citizenship or will she have to wait another 2 year?

[Staashi 371]

I had a call last night from a friend. Her USC husband has been told by his mother that he shouldn't sign her application for citizenship. She can apply in May and had planned to do this. Her husband is a mother's boy and will do whatever she tells him. The mother in law says my friend has a 10 year green card and needs nothing else. She told her son that if my friend gets citizendhip then she will divorce him. He is such an idiot that he believes this and is too stupid to know that she could divorce him now if she wanted to.

Can my friend still apply for citizenship or will she have to wait another 2 year?

Actually, no. He doesn't sign her citizenship application. Tell her that she is eligible to apply and that she should do it. The only thing prohibitive about this is the $675 fee, but if she can get that together she should definitely submit.

[payxibka 10,045]

A review of the instructions to the form would have yielded the answer and saved your friend a little grief... No where is the USC husband required to sign....

[Oosie 1]

I had a call last night from a friend. Her USC husband has been told by his mother that he shouldn't sign her application for citizenship. She can apply in May and had planned to do this. Her husband is a mother's boy and will do whatever she tells him. The mother in law says my friend has a 10 year green card and needs nothing else. She told her son that if my friend gets citizendhip then she will divorce him. He is such an idiot that he believes this and is too stupid to know that she could divorce him now if she wanted to.

Can my friend still apply for citizenship or will she have to wait another 2 year?

Actually, no. He doesn't sign her citizenship application. Tell her that she is eligible to apply and that she should do it. The only thing prohibitive about this is the $675 fee, but if she can get that together she should definitely submit.

Thank you Staashi,

I'll let her know and if she doesn't have the $675 I'll write a check myself.

I've copied off the checklists of doccuments she will need and will help her make sure she has them.

The hard thing will be coaching her for the test as her English is limited and my Bangladeshi is non existant.

I suppose that should be good practice for me though it will be 2 1/2 years before I need to worry about applying for myself.

[YuAndDan 153]

This is all about the LPR applying for citizenship, the US Citizen has nothing to to with this.

[Oosie 1]

A review of the instructions to the form would have yielded the answer and saved your friend a little grief... No where is the USC husband required to sign....

I haven't seen the form yet and my friend doesn't speak much English. Except for me she doesn't know anyone in America who isn't related to her husband and she isn't allowed to go out without him unless she is with me.

Right now she doesn't even know how to get copies of the forms she needs though I'm sure I can download them for her.

[Staashi 371]

I had a call last night from a friend. Her USC husband has been told by his mother that he shouldn't sign her application for citizenship. She can apply in May and had planned to do this. Her husband is a mother's boy and will do whatever she tells him. The mother in law says my friend has a 10 year green card and needs nothing else. She told her son that if my friend gets citizendhip then she will divorce him. He is such an idiot that he believes this and is too stupid to know that she could divorce him now if she wanted to.

Can my friend still apply for citizenship or will she have to wait another 2 year?

Actually, no. He doesn't sign her citizenship application. Tell her that she is eligible to apply and that she should do it. The only thing prohibitive about this is the $675 fee, but if she can get that together she should definitely submit.

Thank you Staashi,

I'll let her know and if she doesn't have the $675 I'll write a check myself.

I've copied off the checklists of doccuments she will need and will help her make sure she has them.

The hard thing will be coaching her for the test as her English is limited and my Bangladeshi is non existant.

I suppose that should be good practice for me though it will be 2 1/2 years before I need to worry about applying for myself.

You are quite a good friend to do that. It is very simple, as my husband and I just did this 4 weeks ago. Have her get into some good ESL and citizenship classes - they can be found anywhere. She'll be just fine. My husband, who is fluent in English, takes two ESL classes a week and one citizenship class - he is very positive about the classes and dedicated to his studies. I'm sure she will be, too! Good Luck!

[Oosie 1]

I had a call last night from a friend. Her USC husband has been told by his mother that he shouldn't sign her application for citizenship. She can apply in May and had planned to do this. Her husband is a mother's boy and will do whatever she tells him. The mother in law says my friend has a 10 year green card and needs nothing else. She told her son that if my friend gets citizendhip then she will divorce him. He is such an idiot that he believes this and is too stupid to know that she could divorce him now if she wanted to.

Can my friend still apply for citizenship or will she have to wait another 2 year?

Actually, no. He doesn't sign her citizenship application. Tell her that she is eligible to apply and that she should do it. The only thing prohibitive about this is the $675 fee, but if she can get that together she should definitely submit.

Thank you Staashi,

I'll let her know and if she doesn't have the $675 I'll write a check myself.

I've copied off the checklists of doccuments she will need and will help her make sure she has them.

The hard thing will be coaching her for the test as her English is limited and my Bangladeshi is non existant.

I suppose that should be good practice for me though it will be 2 1/2 years before I need to worry about applying for myself.

You are quite a good friend to do that. It is very simple, as my husband and I just did this 4 weeks ago. Have her get into some good ESL and citizenship classes - they can be found anywhere. She'll be just fine. My husband, who is fluent in English, takes two ESL classes a week and one citizenship class - he is very positive about the classes and dedicated to his studies. I'm sure she will be, too! Good Luck!

I wish I could get her into classes, her husband won't agree to that though and she has a young baby to complicate things. I used to be a volunteer helping teach ESOL so I'm doing what I can. I just have to try hard not to teach her British English.

[lucyrich 20]

You've already gotten good info; the USC doesn't sign anything to help the alien naturalize.

It's always possible that the issue of the bona fides of the marriage might come up during the naturalization process. If the marriage is questioned, then both spouses might be interviewed and/or asked to submit evidence that their marriage is bona fide. It seems like such questioning rarely happens at the naturalization stage, though, since the marriage has already been investigated both initially and at the removal of conditions stage.

A point for the meddling mother: It's in the USC's best interest to have the alien naturalize, as that's what gets him off the hook for the affidavit of support. Otherwise, he's on the hook until she earns 40 quarters of work credits for social security purposes, dies, or leaves the US permanently.

The only potential downside to naturalization I can see from the USC's point of view is that, if the USC and spouse disagree on politics, having the alien naturalize and start voting might mean the couple's two votes cancel each other out. On the other hand, if the two agree on politics, naturalization doubles their vote.