UAE Nationals ~ HELP!!!

[denny01 0]

I need to speak to someone who is either a UAE National (or knows a national ) that was given a K1 visa to marry a non Muslim.

Am being told that it isnt going to happen. Are lawyers that unscrupulous to have kept that information from me all this time ?

I realize it cant happen in Saudi Arabia.....but am talking bout United Arab Emirates.

[Zee Bee 61]

The K1 visa is issued by the US consulate not the country where your fiance is from.

Who told you that your fiance will not be issued a visa? This would be the first time I am hearing this.

[denny01 0]

Ah.....was told since its against the law for a non Muslim to marry a Muslim woman that it would be against the law for the embassy there to issue a K1 visa for marriage here. I know it seems weird......but my fiancee told me her friend was saying that she would not be let out of the country on a K1 visa. She wants to talk to a UAE national that has received a K1 visa.

[Ban Hammer 13,551]

Ah.....was told since its against the law for a non Muslim to marry a Muslim woman that it would be against the law for the embassy there to issue a K1 visa for marriage here. I know it seems weird......but my fiancee told me her friend was saying that she would not be let out of the country on a K1 visa. She wants to talk to a UAE national that has received a K1 visa.

here is the uae k-1 stats. you'll have to see if the names on the far left are still on vj.

http://www.visajourney.com/timeline/k1list...7%2C28&cfl=

if the link does not work let me know and i'll get a shorter version of it.

[Zee Bee 61]

I can see why you would be concerned.

If you can't get in touch with someone from VJ I would call the consulate and find out.

Good luck.

[doodlebugg 10]

Hmmm that's a good question. In Egypt they won't marry a non-muslim male to a muslim woman so I guess it stands to figure there'd be some static between the Egyptian gov't and the US gov't in letting it happen. Not sure about the country you're going through but maybe it'd be the same since their laws are the same?

[denny01 0]

Thanks Charles,

I didnt have alot of time to figure out the timeline stuff before i started this topic.......I think my biggest prob isnt gonna be UAE or US immigration......my biggest prob is gonna be her friends tellin her she cant do this.

[Ban Hammer 13,551]

Thanks Charles,

I didnt have alot of time to figure out the timeline stuff before i started this topic.......I think my biggest prob isnt gonna be UAE or US immigration......my biggest prob is gonna be her friends tellin her she cant do this.

while her friends may mean well, odds are they haven't gone thru the k-1 process and are relaying word of mouth "barracks lawyer" information. you may be able to get an answer from a few of those individuals on the link i posted earlier, and you might also consider emailing the embassy in uae and asking for clarification on this too.

[PetraPerson101 0]

USA follows the legal standards of the country of origin.

If the marriage is illegal there, it's illegal here.

Edited February 20, 2008 by KyanWan

[Nutty 2]

THe US government issues K1 visa's. And there are no restrictions listed for K1 which would deny you marrying a non-muslim.

I do not see how the United Arab Emirates can prevent you from receiving a US government issued visa.

Ah.....was told since its against the law for a non Muslim to marry a Muslim woman that it would be against the law for the embassy there to issue a K1 visa for marriage here. I know it seems weird......but my fiancee told me her friend was saying that she would not be let out of the country on a K1 visa. She wants to talk to a UAE national that has received a K1 visa.

Well, this should be directed to the US Embassy in Abu Dhabi.

[denny01 0]

yes....i know......but this was stressin her out very much......and thought i would ask here.......her and i both have called that embassy and cant get past the answering machine....but...we will keep trying....also wondering what will happen when her parents try to stop us at the airport.........ha......this is gonna turn into an " international incident " Anybody want to tag along ?

Edited February 20, 2008 by denny01

[Zee Bee 61]

Have you tried e-mailing them?

Good luck to you.

[Ban Hammer 13,551]

Have you tried e-mailing them?

Good luck to you.

here it is.

dubaivisaenquiry@state.gov

[denny01 0]

Ok....thank you......will send something right now.....just didnt have a chance yet to look for the mailing address.....thank you kind people for your help and encouragement !

[Sofiyya 1,687]

THe US government issues K1 visa's. And there are no restrictions listed for K1 which would deny you marrying a non-muslim.

I do not see how the United Arab Emirates can prevent you from receiving a US government issued visa.

Ah.....was told since its against the law for a non Muslim to marry a Muslim woman that it would be against the law for the embassy there to issue a K1 visa for marriage here. I know it seems weird......but my fiancee told me her friend was saying that she would not be let out of the country on a K1 visa. She wants to talk to a UAE national that has received a K1 visa.

Well, this should be directed to the US Embassy in Abu Dhabi.

Denny's fiancee has good cause for concern. He is a non-Muslim man attempting to sponsor a K1 visa for a Muslim woman to the US for marriage. There is no way he could marry in her country without his conversion to Islam, and they would also need the consent of her male guardian, unless she appealed to the Sharia court for an exception. The UAE is a tribal Muslim country, and its interpretation of the Sharia, which is incorporated into law, does not allow Muslim women to marry non-Muslim men, requires consent of a male guardian for an unwed Muslima to marry. Travel overseas requires the permission of a male guardian. All are facts the US State Dept is not unaware of, and, no doubt, takes into consideration as a matter of diplomacy:

There is broad legal and societal discrimination against women. Islamic law governs the personal status of women, but civil law governs their activities in the civic and commercial sphere. Muslim women are forbidden to marry non-Muslims (see section 1.f.). Custom dictates that a husband can bar his wife, minor children, and adult unmarried daughters from leaving the country. All male citizens can pass citizenship to their children at birth, whereas female citizens married to noncitizens do not automatically pass citizenship to their children (see section 2.d.). The government was generally not effective in enforcing women's rights and protecting women from abuse. There is no data regarding the number of abusers who were prosecuted, convicted, or punished.

http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2006/78865.htm

Law of Personal Status

The personal status of women in the UAE is determined by Islamic law. The UAE’s interpretation of Islam prohibits Muslim women from marrying non-Muslim men. Muslim men are allowed to marry non-Muslim women. In 1998, 28 percent of marriages in the UAE were between Muslim men and foreign women. Muslim women are prohibited from leaving the country without permission from a male guardian.

http://gender.pogar.org/countries/country.asp?cid=21

Diplomacy is not a small matter in granting visas to foreign nationals in ways that violate the laws of the country that the embassy serves. Nor are the ramifications of what benefits the female Muslim citizen would give up by marrying out. As it is, UAE women who marry out lose many of the citizenship rights, and are not allowed to sponsor their husbands or children for citizenship, whereas a male Emirati can.

Countries, not even the US, hands out visas without regard to the laws of the country they are in. They are there as guests and international incidents are to be avoided.