How to Shake Your NOA2 Loose from the CSC

[bakofoil 27]

So babblesgirl, we meet again.

Indeed! *raises paws*

I know petitions can't be processed in the exact order in which they are received. But when I see November filers being approved while a whole slew of September filers are still waiting, I think it's a reasonable assumption that cases are not being processed as promised.

Aye, but there are also January filers being approved so is it ok for all January filers to call the RFE line and demand their petition gets moved to an adjudicator? We know the system is unfair but how do you get people to be reasonable about that?

I think the problem is not so much using the RFE line, it's advocating the use of the RFE line when those around you are being approved. It's gonna get silly and they'll shut it down then no one will have any opportunity to push their case along - even when it reaches six months and beyond.

Anyway, point made, what was that cherry drink?

Hi all,

I think it is silly to argue ....all I know is that it make me feel so much better to have been touched....thanks to TBone advise I believe...It does not mean that I will have NOA2 any quicker but at least I had someone looking at my name and the petition...Even if they forget it in a corner now ...We will just call again. I first filed in April 2007 and was told that file was never received, well order was not cash either so I have to believe USCIS....At this point anything helps.

And if Tbone advise can help anyone else to feel better ...it is great !!!

THANK YOU TBONE

TBone is lovely. It's true.

[TBoneTX 47,952]

[...] it's a hard ask to get people to be reasonable about using these roundabout methods of speaking to someone who might actually have *some* information on your case, especially given that approvals are all over the calendar right now.

Well, by now, most people here probably have a sense of what's reasonable and what's not.

Can we agree that anything earlier than 3 months after NOA1 date is unreasonably soon to call?

Three months, no word or on-line update: Call to inquire, "Where in the Division is my application, please?" On the basis of the response (if the response is helpful), plan to inquire again in 3 to 5 weeks.

Four months, or if you see from postings here that an unignorable number of applications filed simultaneously with or after yours have been approved: "Where in the Division is my file, please?" Add, "Can you please send an e-mail to the floor to ask them to get it moving to the next station?"

Add further questions the longer you've been waiting.

Si, man?

[TBoneTX 47,952]

The RFE trick isn't new. People have been trying around here for about a year or so.

How does it differ from the approach in this thread? For all the commentary about the RFE "trick," I never found where it was posted or any pro/con about it.

[bakofoil 27]

Si man

[rebeccajo 14]

[...] it's a hard ask to get people to be reasonable about using these roundabout methods of speaking to someone who might actually have *some* information on your case, especially given that approvals are all over the calendar right now.

Well, by now, most people here probably have a sense of what's reasonable and what's not.

Can we agree that anything earlier than 3 months after NOA1 date is unreasonably soon to call?

Three months, no word or on-line update: Call to inquire, "Where in the Division is my application, please?" On the basis of the response (if the response is helpful), plan to inquire again in 3 to 5 weeks.

Four months, or if you see from postings here that an unignorable number of applications filed simultaneously with or after yours have been approved: "Where in the Division is my file, please?" Add, "Can you please send an e-mail to the floor to ask them to get it moving to the next station?"

Add further questions the longer you've been waiting.

Si, man?

You want a procedure in stone or something, TBone? You want a concrete guideline like 'wait three months'? Why?

The only reason I'm asking - this damn system is sooooooooooo volatile. I've seen it go up and down like a yo-yo on a string for the last three years. VSC is fast, VSC is slow. Nebraska is slow, Nebraska is fast - Nebraska is gone! Adjustment of status in 60 days when it used to take AT LEAST 6-8 months to get an interview........

This system is very fluid, believe it or not. You seem to think USCIS is out to screw you, to just take your money and keep you in the dark like a mushroom. You know what? Someday, when you are reunited with your fiance, you'll hardly remember all this BS!

The RFE trick isn't new. People have been trying around here for about a year or so.

How does it differ from the approach in this thread? For all the commentary about the RFE "trick," I never found where it was posted or any pro/con about it.

I don't know why you haven't seen anything. Honestly. I've been reading about it for ages.

[bakofoil 27]

I notice no mention of CSC being all over the place. It is always slow I take it

[rebeccajo 14]

I notice no mention of CSC being all over the place. It is always slow I take it

When I was processing, it was the fastest after Vermont.

[L & P 0]

Well, all I can say is that in January I was completely uoset and used to log in in USCIS website 6 or 7 times a day to check if there was any update ...since we had a few touches i manage to restrain myself to 3 times a day

[TBoneTX 47,952]

[...] is it ok for all January filers to call the RFE line and demand their petition gets moved to an adjudicator? We know the system is unfair but how do you get people to be reasonable about that?

Aha! To "demand" is confrontational and will certainly cause the USCIS people to not want to help you. The recommendation is to use reason (length of time that one has been waiting, the reality of grossly out-of-order processing, any unignorable number of simultaneous/later petitions processed before yours) to convince the Immigration Officer to send an e-mail to the floor in hopes that it WILL help you. (It may or may not, and the Officer may or may not -- but we rarely get what we don't ask for. See Mox's analogy above regarding Project X.)

And, some could argue (not I, because I'm lovely, si man): "Why should anyone be reasonable about an unfair system?" I merely became frustrated and began looking for a better mousetrap; the lady ImmigOff suggested one; I tried it; and it helped gain me information, if not also to propel my file a bit more efficiently through the system.

[bakofoil 27]

I notice no mention of CSC being all over the place. It is always slow I take it

When I was processing, it was the fastest after Vermont.

It's still the fastest ..after Vermont.

[TBoneTX 47,952]

You know what? Someday, when you are reunited with your fiance, you'll hardly remember all this BS!

Sadly, we cannot be certain about some of this.

[bakofoil 27]

Dangit babblesgirl, I can't for the life of me remember the cherry drink. Were we talking about it in chat, or in a post?

Again agreeing with rebeccajo, the system is way too fluid to set anything in concrete. Criminy, VSC just had a 7 day approval and it wasn't Cuban or an expedite. In the meantime it wasn't that long ago I saw a June filer pop up and meekly ask if there were any other Juners still around.

Dunno. As I said, the system is borked and the RFE trick and others are duct tape and bailing wire. They're jury rigs. And one of the problems with jury rigs is that they resist formalization. Another problem is that they don't always work as expected. TB, this is why I don't think you're ever really going to get a concrete answer about whether your system works or not. Like USCIS, it's just too variable.

Good lord! I completely agree with you.

I think it was in a post.

[TBoneTX 47,952]

Well then, my favorite drink is paint-thinner with a little grenadine.

[bakofoil 27]

Well then, my favorite drink is paint-thinner with a little grenadine.

[Roselinda 5]

evening all!

i'm just snooping as lucian and a few others have a similar timeline to ours.

it'll be interesting to see the difference in approval dates.

we've only been touched the once just after filing so that kinda sucks!

hopefully we will all be processed in the next couple of weeks.

best of luck everyone.