How to Shake Your NOA2 Loose from the CSC

[rebeccajo 14]

My comments have nothing to do with speed. I refer to accuracy and handling their job professionally.

I don't understand how you can *know* they are being either incompetent or efficient. So many factors go into the process, and the case workers are just one part of it.

I've seen enough on these boards to know as well as experiencing it personally. I see this process alot like war. My petition is like a battleplan and USCIS is the enemy. We all know the battle plan never survives contact with the enemy. Anything that can go wrong will.

I hate to tell you this - but it's not that PERSONAL to them. You're a stack of papers. Get your papers right, meet about three criteria, and you'll get your NOA2.

Lol you don't have a clue.

Oh that's not fair. Would you care to share? Maybe we could help you.

[mox 298]

Lol you don't have a clue.

Y'know lancer...people are just trying to talk and debate about the issue. You don't need to go there.

I'm sorry that your case has had so much trouble. I don't doubt that you have some kind of evidence on your kitchen table indicating incompetence, and I feel bad that you did. It happens, and it sucks when it happens. But nobody has it personally "in" for you, and the fact that your case was mis-handled does not indict an entire group of people. The vast majority of cases are adjudicated inside of 6 months, and its slowly getting better. There's still a lot of problems, but it actually is getting better. Nobody should be getting medals or bonuses, but it's a far cry from the keystone cop situation you have grasped onto.

You can choose to be bitter and miserable, and lash out, or you can do the other thing. I recommend the latter over the former. It will make your wait a little more bearable.

[rebeccajo 14]

Ooooooo Lancer I checked some of your past posts. Seems you have had some difficulties and I'm sorry to read about them.

Unfortunately (and no consolation to you I am sure) these things happens occasionally. It is one of the pitfalls of a paper-based system, and something the service will get away from within the next few years.

At least, that's the plan.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

My comments have nothing to do with speed. I refer to accuracy and handling their job professionally.

I don't understand how you can *know* they are being either incompetent or efficient. So many factors go into the process, and the case workers are just one part of it.

I've seen enough on these boards to know as well as experiencing it personally. I see this process alot like war. My petition is like a battleplan and USCIS is the enemy. We all know the battle plan never survives contact with the enemy. Anything that can go wrong will.

I hate to tell you this - but it's not that PERSONAL to them. You're a stack of papers. Get your papers right, meet about three criteria, and you'll get your NOA2.

Lol you don't have a clue.

Oh that's not fair. Would you care to share? Maybe we could help you.

Sorry, shouldn't have said that. I just got angry about the getting the papers right comment. I first put a petition together in September and sent it in, the conclusion was it was misplaced (i had a personal check and tracking on the package) by USCIS. After getting a john doe letter from CSC in January (I had put a service request in) I sent another petition in mid January only to get it back with an NOA rejection from Chicago Lock Box. Someone randomly decided it was an I130 and sent it to Chicago Lockbox. Chicago took a look at it and instead of reforwarding back to CSC they decided to just issue an NOA and send it all back to me mid February.

Realizing I was out of options I hired an attorney that my congressman recommended. They have sent a third petition friday or monday one week ago for the direct attention of a supervisor trying to get a supervisor to recognise the mistakes and file it as september petition (meaning it should go imediately to an officer's desk.)

My attorney even commented on the quality of the file and they basically used everything except the 129f form which they redid to add their representative info.

It doesn't matter how well things are put together, sometimes you just get royally screwed.

[rebeccajo 14]

My comments have nothing to do with speed. I refer to accuracy and handling their job professionally.

I don't understand how you can *know* they are being either incompetent or efficient. So many factors go into the process, and the case workers are just one part of it.

I've seen enough on these boards to know as well as experiencing it personally. I see this process alot like war. My petition is like a battleplan and USCIS is the enemy. We all know the battle plan never survives contact with the enemy. Anything that can go wrong will.

I hate to tell you this - but it's not that PERSONAL to them. You're a stack of papers. Get your papers right, meet about three criteria, and you'll get your NOA2.

Lol you don't have a clue.

Oh that's not fair. Would you care to share? Maybe we could help you.

Sorry, shouldn't have said that. I just got angry about the getting the papers right comment. I first put a petition together in September and sent it in, the conclusion was it was misplaced (i had a personal check and tracking on the package) by USCIS. After getting a john doe letter from CSC in January (I had put a service request in) I sent another petition in mid January only to get it back with an NOA rejection from Chicago Lock Box. Someone randomly decided it was an I130 and sent it to Chicago Lockbox. Chicago took a look at it and instead of reforwarding back to CSC they decided to just issue an NOA and send it all back to me mid February.

Realizing I was out of options I hired an attorney that my congressman recommended. They have sent a third petition friday or monday one week ago for the direct attention of a supervisor trying to get a supervisor to recognise the mistakes and file it as september petition (meaning it should go imediately to an officer's desk.)

My attorney even commented on the quality of the file and they basically used everything except the 129f form which they redid to add their representative info.

It doesn't matter how well things are put together, sometimes you just get royally screwed.

I hope your attorney is aware that there is a legitimate expedite process for cases that can be proven to be mucked up due to USCIS error.

[mox 298]

It doesn't matter how well things are put together, sometimes you just get royally screwed.

Yeah, I've been following your story too. I'm not sure they could have made a bigger cluster-f#ck out of your case if they tried.

Sounds like things might be coming together though, huh? As a fellow September filer, I'm rooting for you. (and I guess I don't really have to be a September filer to root for you, but meh. )

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Sorry things got off subject, my point was that i've had two mistakes, and there are roughly 4-5 people with similar troubles on this site in the last 3 months. These mistakes might not seem like much here on the site (thats what 4,5 people among about 300 filers from sept. to Feb. ) thats maybe 3 to 4% (2 mistakes per person...which it seems they always strike in pairs) but thats still rather high especially as it seems that CSC isn't doing much to right the mistakes.

Now that LAST bit is completely not the average employee's mistake, its higher up.

[TBoneTX 45,287]

thanks debbylyn! I HOPE SO TOO!!!!

Fingers crossed here, Jilly. Minor correction: The approach to calling isn't a "trick"; it was a procedure directly recommended to me by an immigration officer. Nevertheless, let's hope that it works for you, and soon.

[rebeccajo 14]

thanks debbylyn! I HOPE SO TOO!!!!

Fingers crossed here, Jilly. Minor correction: The approach to calling isn't a "trick"; it was a procedure directly recommended to me by an immigration officer. Nevertheless, let's hope that it works for you, and soon.

Do a search of the forums for "RFE trick".

It's not new.

[TBoneTX 45,287]

[...] i've had two mistakes [...] it seems that CSC isn't doing much to right the mistakes.

I would be past ready to wring some necks!

[TBoneTX 45,287]

Do a search of the forums for "RFE trick".

It's not new.

How did it work on your own open case? You promised to let everyone know, some time ago. If you wrote a post about it, please tell us what page it's on here.

Edited March 4, 2008 by TBoneTX

[rebeccajo 14]

Do a search of the forums for "RFE trick".

It's not new.

How did it work on your own open case? You promised to let everyone know, some time ago. If you wrote a post about it, please tell us what page it's on here.

I didn't bother. All I wanted to know was if you could really reach a live officer. It was apparent from the evidence that you do.

I didn't think it was right for me to tie up the RFE line to check on an address change.

[jhilly143 0]

thanks debbylyn! I HOPE SO TOO!!!!

Fingers crossed here, Jilly. Minor correction: The approach to calling isn't a "trick"; it was a procedure directly recommended to me by an immigration officer. Nevertheless, let's hope that it works for you, and soon.

oh yes, i accidentally wrote 'trick' instead of 'tip' i couldnt correct it when i saw it...hehe thanks

when i found out about the RFEs trick 2 months ago i was amazed haha..seriously! because prior to that it would take soooo long for me to talk to a live person, but of course, as we all know, they only tell me what i already know...

but yes, i hope things get going after when the officer receives the email from the lady i spoke with.

[TBoneTX 45,287]

I didn't bother. All I wanted to know was if you could really reach a live officer. It was apparent from the evidence that you do.

I didn't think it was right for me to tie up the RFE line to check on an address change.

I hope that you find out about it positively some other way.

[TBoneTX 45,287]

but yes, i hope things get going after when the officer receives the email from the lady i spoke with.

, si man.