Was told couldn't apply for Social Security card until work authorized.

[DavidandJenny 1]

We have a totally different issue with the SS Card (because of her birth date being wrong at INS..and I might add ONLY at INS for some strange reason) However, when we were at the SS administration office...we could have gotten a SS Card whether married or not. EAD or not at this time in our process. This is what WE were told.

Edited February 17, 2008 by DavidandJenny

[Italy2LA 0]

Hello Everybody,

My fiancee just had his interview and got the visa. He will be coming to LA in 2 weeks and I want to get going on his AOS. I had read somewhere in these forums that upon entering the US, he could ask the customs agent for some EAD stamp which would allow him to work for 90 days until the AOS goes through. Anyone know about this?

Thanks in advance,

Sonia

Edited February 17, 2008 by Italy2LA

[Converse34 1]

Hello Everybody,

My fiancee just had his interview and got the visa. He will be coming to LA in 2 weeks and I want to get going on his AOS. I had read somewhere in these forums that upon entering the US, he could ask the customs agent for some EAD stamp which would allow him to work for 90 days until the AOS goes through. Anyone know about this?

Thanks in advance,

Sonia

Only given at JFK and it is only good for 90 days. If your AOS takes longer than 90 days, you are supposed to stop working, leaving a gap. I don't know if any one has successfully managed to work continuously. You would have to get married and file AOS almost immediately upon entry for a chance.

[diadromous mermaid 36]

The Social Security office is correct. A fiancé(e) is work authorised incident to status, but once the alien marries he or she is no longer a fiancé/fiancée.

so why was I allowed to apply for my SSN and receive it AFTER I was married, and BEFORE I even applied for AOS/EAD/AP ??

Sorry, DM, but your statement is incorrect. I, also, applied for, and received, my SSN after marriage and prior to filing for AOS.

ZG, search for posts by member name I_Quit. You'll be able to find correct SSA information and suggestions from him.

I should learn to look, before opening my mouth, and I can't find Mike's dissertation on this because it was on the former VisaJourney forum (before the switch). Maybe things have changed...

[I'm Gone 60]

My now wife came over on a K1 visa. According to the guide, you should wait a couple weeks after entry into the US before applying for a Social Security (SS) card. Well, due to circumstances that was difficult to change, we had the wedding about two weeks after she came here.

No, problem, I thought, we would just go to the SS office after the wedding and apply for a number. Well, the officer there told us that since we were married, the K1 visa was no longer valid and that we would have to wait until after she got her work authorization documentation to ally for the SS card. I was not amused.

I've since filed for the AOS and work authorization (and she has even had her biometrics done), but her not having a SS card is causing problems. She can't get a driver's license, and I can't file my taxes jointly.

The SSA office should have accepted the application if they outright turned you away. It's not their call to say you are work authorized or not after getting married. If you didn't submit an application you have the option of trying another office and either applying in the maiden name and keeping quiet about being married or try again with the married name and take your chances. Send the e-mail too.

[I'm Gone 60]

Thats total fruad and they will see in the system that you are married. There is no way you can do it.

SSA has no iway of knowing you are married unless you open your big mouth.

[I'm Gone 60]

The Social Security office is correct. A fiancé(e) is work authorised incident to status, but once the alien marries he or she is no longer a fiancé/fiancée.

so why was I allowed to apply for my SSN and receive it AFTER I was married, and BEFORE I even applied for AOS/EAD/AP ??

Sorry, DM, but your statement is incorrect. I, also, applied for, and received, my SSN after marriage and prior to filing for AOS.

ZG, search for posts by member name I_Quit. You'll be able to find correct SSA information and suggestions from him.

I should learn to look, before opening my mouth, and I can't find Mike's dissertation on this because it was on the former VisaJourney forum (before the switch). Maybe things have changed...

Had a woman recently that the local office said she no longer had K-1 after getting married and the office wanted to send the G-845 to verify her status before even entering the application into the system. The Regional Office intervened and she had her SSN the next day.

What throws the people in the SSA offices due to not having processed many if any applications for people with K-1 status is that it's labeled as K-1- fiancé of U.S. citizen in POMS, so now that you are married you aren't a fiancé and the K-1 status must not be valid. The other good one is that POMS has K-3 -- spouse of U.S. citizen and they tell people to go apply for a K-3 visa now that they are married.

Edited February 18, 2008 by I Quit

[I'm Gone 60]

The Social Security office is correct. A fiancé(e) is work authorised incident to status, but once the alien marries he or she is no longer a fiancé/fiancée.

so why was I allowed to apply for my SSN and receive it AFTER I was married, and BEFORE I even applied for AOS/EAD/AP ??

Sorry, DM, but your statement is incorrect. I, also, applied for, and received, my SSN after marriage and prior to filing for AOS.

ZG, search for posts by member name I_Quit. You'll be able to find correct SSA information and suggestions from him.

I should learn to look, before opening my mouth, and I can't find Mike's dissertation on this because it was on the former VisaJourney forum (before the switch). Maybe things have changed...

There was one case of immigration sending the G-845 back to say a K-1 wasn't valid after getting married, but the woman that wrote EM-00154 got it straightened out with immigration and this was a couple years ago. Haven't heard of immigration saying a person with K-1 status wasn't a K-1 after getting married in a while.

[I'm Gone 60]

Thats total fruad and they will see in the system that you are married. There is no way you can do it.

Not fraud, because the SSA office was wrong for turning them away. The only way the SSA office should turn you away is if your I-94 is within 14 days of expiring when you try to apply.

[I'm Gone 60]

I tried applying in my married name but the system wouldn't accept it so they filed my SSN in my maiden name. The only problem is I can't work with this SSN, it states on it that I have to have EAD approval. So they told me when I get my EAD to go back with that and my marriage certificate to remove the conditions and put it in my married name on it.

Not going to be issued an SSN card with the conditions removed until you have an I-551 stamp or card. With an EAD card you will still be issued a card with "VALID FOR WORK ONLY WITH DHS AUTHORIZATION"

http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10002.html#types

[diadromous mermaid 36]

I tried applying in my married name but the system wouldn't accept it so they filed my SSN in my maiden name. The only problem is I can't work with this SSN, it states on it that I have to have EAD approval. So they told me when I get my EAD to go back with that and my marriage certificate to remove the conditions and put it in my married name on it.

Not going to be issued an SSN card with the conditions removed until you have an I-551 stamp or card. With an EAD card you will still be issued a card with "VALID FOR WORK ONLY WITH DHS AUTHORIZATION"

http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10002.html#types

Thanks! I was hoping you'd chime in and put us all straight.

The Social Security office is correct. A fiancé(e) is work authorised incident to status, but once the alien marries he or she is no longer a fiancé/fiancée.

so why was I allowed to apply for my SSN and receive it AFTER I was married, and BEFORE I even applied for AOS/EAD/AP ??

Sorry, DM, but your statement is incorrect. I, also, applied for, and received, my SSN after marriage and prior to filing for AOS.

ZG, search for posts by member name I_Quit. You'll be able to find correct SSA information and suggestions from him.

I should learn to look, before opening my mouth, and I can't find Mike's dissertation on this because it was on the former VisaJourney forum (before the switch). Maybe things have changed...

The other good one is that POMS has K-3 -- spouse of U.S. citizen and they tell people to go apply for a K-3 visa now that they are married.

Yikes!

[zgundam 0]

We went thru the same thing when my husband got here. We got married in October and filed for everything in Nov. By the end of January we had his Ead and he now has his ssn. I have filed my taxes to be amended. Which is something you may want to consider doing.

Interesting, however I didn't volunteer the information, the person there explicitly asked if we were already married when I simply asked to apply for a CC number. Sorry, but I am not programmed to lie when asked a direct question.

I thank everyone for the responses. Based on the information I've read, she should get her work authorization fairly soon.

I wonder if the Visa Journey guide should be updated to warn against what happened to me?

-ZG

[Converse34 1]

We went thru the same thing when my husband got here. We got married in October and filed for everything in Nov. By the end of January we had his Ead and he now has his ssn. I have filed my taxes to be amended. Which is something you may want to consider doing.

Interesting, however I didn't volunteer the information, the person there explicitly asked if we were already married when I simply asked to apply for a CC number. Sorry, but I am not programmed to lie when asked a direct question.

I thank everyone for the responses. Based on the information I've read, she should get her work authorization fairly soon.

I wonder if the Visa Journey guide should be updated to warn against what happened to me?

-ZG

The K1 flow chart clearly states to get the SSN around two weeks after the POE and BEFORE getting married. If you had applied then, you wouldn't have had any issues at all.

[john_and_marlene 162]

My now wife came over on a K1 visa. According to the guide, you should wait a couple weeks after entry into the US before applying for a Social Security (SS) card. Well, due to circumstances that was difficult to change, we had the wedding about two weeks after she came here.

No, problem, I thought, we would just go to the SS office after the wedding and apply for a number. Well, the officer there told us that since we were married, the K1 visa was no longer valid and that we would have to wait until after she got her work authorization documentation to ally for the SS card. I was not amused.

I've since filed for the AOS and work authorization (and she has even had her biometrics done), but her not having a SS card is causing problems. She can't get a driver's license, and I can't file my taxes jointly.

Any advice? Was I told wrong? Should I expect the work authorization docs soon?

Thanks

-ZG

The Social Security office is correct. A fiancé(e) is work authorised incident to status, but once the alien marries he or she is no longer a fiancé/fiancée.

Not true. The work authorized status is based on class of entry and has nothing to do with whether you got married. The clerk at the SSA office gave us the same urban myth response when we went to apply. We educated the clerk with facts and received the SSN based on K1 entry, after marriage, in married name.

[*JG* 2]

My now wife came over on a K1 visa. According to the guide, you should wait a couple weeks after entry into the US before applying for a Social Security (SS) card. Well, due to circumstances that was difficult to change, we had the wedding about two weeks after she came here.

No, problem, I thought, we would just go to the SS office after the wedding and apply for a number. Well, the officer there told us that since we were married, the K1 visa was no longer valid and that we would have to wait until after she got her work authorization documentation to ally for the SS card. I was not amused.

I've since filed for the AOS and work authorization (and she has even had her biometrics done), but her not having a SS card is causing problems. She can't get a driver's license, and I can't file my taxes jointly.

Any advice? Was I told wrong? Should I expect the work authorization docs soon?

Thanks

-ZG

The Social Security office is correct. A fiancé(e) is work authorised incident to status, but once the alien marries he or she is no longer a fiancé/fiancée.

Yes. Which the initial work authorization pretty useless.