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[LovinLiberia 0]

Trust me, MENA is on a whole 'nother level. We still have a long way to go compared to them.

Edited February 18, 2008 by LovinLiberia

[Ban Hammer 13,469]

Trust me, MENA is on a whole 'nother level. We still have a long way to go compared to them.

yeah but they've been awfully quiet lately

[LovinLiberia 0]

Trust me, MENA is on a whole 'nother level. We still have a long way to go compared to them.

yeah but they've been awfully quiet lately

*gasp* The world must be truly coming to an end in that case.

[Ban Hammer 13,469]

Trust me, MENA is on a whole 'nother level. We still have a long way to go compared to them.

yeah but they've been awfully quiet lately

*gasp* The world must be truly coming to an end in that case.

tell me about it. not seen a locked thread over there in over a month now.

[Zee Bee 61]

this is better than mena

Charles

[Ban Hammer 13,469]

this is better than mena

Charles

currently.......there's not much going on in mena right now

[Divine Mercy 0]

this is better than mena

Charles

currently.......there's not much going on in mena right now

1) what is mena?

2) I took the liberty of reading all of Idocare's posts back to 2006 (which is all i could easily access). I have the day off and I wasted much of it bad me.

The reason I wanted to read them all was because she has been asked repeatedly to give details regarding the scam her husband inflicted upon her yet the same bland generalizations were repeated time and time again. I thought maybe she was tired of naming the "red flags" that popped up in her relationship. That is not the case. The earlier posts were at times supportive and not about scammers at all. Her posts used to be nice and friendly. As time passes however one can see the increasing hostility and tunnel vision. I am not going to speculate why that is, it really isn't my place to diagnose someone. The scam topic is woven into threads that were intended to relay happy news of other VJers. It turned my stomach to see the black cloud hovering over such joy.

In one earlier post, she mentioned that there were red flags that she closed her eyes to (i'm paraphrasing) yet she did not name them, which would be of use to newbies and even not so newbies. I have come to agree that her purpose here is no longer to be of help (if that were true, why hasn't she filled in her timeline??)

I did learn a wee bit about this abusive spouse thing she talks about and it is something good to keep in mind, if not for ourselves but for others that may have similar issues, so we can pass the word along. I guess what I'm trying to say is, Idocare.. for once, please tell your actual story. Tell us the red flags. Tell us what we could be looking out for rather than just saying .. you wont know till its too late. How is that helpful? Tell us the story, stop dropping seeds of doubt all over the forum and give us something to really use to get the bigger picture. And please stop ignoring our requests for you to do just that.

Thanks.

[Ban Hammer 13,469]

this is better than mena

Charles

currently.......there's not much going on in mena right now

1) what is mena?

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showforum=97

[Divine Mercy 0]

this is better than mena

Charles

currently.......there's not much going on in mena right now

1) what is mena?

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showforum=97

OOOOOOOOOH thanks!

[Ban Hammer 13,469]

this is better than mena

Charles

currently.......there's not much going on in mena right now

1) what is mena?

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showforum=97

OOOOOOOOOH thanks!

and nobody can fight like the mena girls

[Bassi and Zainab 1]

Everyone has a right to their oppinon. You all can say this and you can say that concerning my demeanor, how my divorce has affected me so much or that you feel that I still hold alot of anger. As I said many times I don't care about that. Your oppinon of me, does nothing for me.

Some did strike a cord with me today I'll admit that. I like the susgestion of you all ignoring my posts and just letting me be. I'm hoping that the few that don't like my threads adhere to your advice.

I,m going to be me, and if I feel a need to share some information I'll do that. As for me telling all that I have been thru with Victor isn't necessary as I don't have to justify my post to anyone in here. I'll share what I want to share period. Some understand my post some don't.

Thanks for bringing to the attention of this board that they don't have to read or reply any of my posting if they find the content offensive.

As I said earlier, this was the first post that I've read that you've started that I didn't find offensive. You stated your story and didn't accuse or attack others. I read it in the vein for what it was. But for some reason you got ANGRY and VICIOUS. Boaz, says she understands your frustration, but I guess I don't. When I went through the fires with my ex-husband people in my church and family stood against me because no matter how he hit me or stole from me or hurt me or my daughter, it was not "godly" to divorce your husband. I stood against those people who I cared about and loved because I knew I was right and I knew that I had met with my Lord and had His support. The only one that mattered. You freaked out over the opinions of strangers. Why? I just don't get it. Why would you start a post in a relatively peaceful manner and then totally flip out over what strangers post? You gave it energy and power. That's a personal choice. I still don't understand why you chose to do that. It seems like a waste of time from what you claim you want to do.

Regarding knowing what you and your ex went through, if you intention is to show signs then identify the signs. There was another poster, southernchic or gal or something like that, who posted concrete things that her ex did that she didn't identify but believes were red flags. I think that's useful if your goal is to help someone prevent themselves from being scammed. It's obviously your choice to share or not share. I'm mostly thinking about what you state your goals are, versus what you are actually achieving.

[Bassi and Zainab 1]

2) I took the liberty of reading all of Idocare's posts back to 2006 (which is all i could easily access). I have the day off and I wasted much of it bad me.

The reason I wanted to read them all was because she has been asked repeatedly to give details regarding the scam her husband inflicted upon her yet the same bland generalizations were repeated time and time again. I thought maybe she was tired of naming the "red flags" that popped up in her relationship. That is not the case. The earlier posts were at times supportive and not about scammers at all. Her posts used to be nice and friendly. As time passes however one can see the increasing hostility and tunnel vision. I am not going to speculate why that is, it really isn't my place to diagnose someone. The scam topic is woven into threads that were intended to relay happy news of other VJers. It turned my stomach to see the black cloud hovering over such joy.

In one earlier post, she mentioned that there were red flags that she closed her eyes to (i'm paraphrasing) yet she did not name them, which would be of use to newbies and even not so newbies. I have come to agree that her purpose here is no longer to be of help (if that were true, why hasn't she filled in her timeline??)

I did learn a wee bit about this abusive spouse thing she talks about and it is something good to keep in mind, if not for ourselves but for others that may have similar issues, so we can pass the word along. I guess what I'm trying to say is, Idocare.. for once, please tell your actual story. Tell us the red flags. Tell us what we could be looking out for rather than just saying .. you wont know till its too late. How is that helpful? Tell us the story, stop dropping seeds of doubt all over the forum and give us something to really use to get the bigger picture. And please stop ignoring our requests for you to do just that.

Thanks.

Looks like we were posting similar thoughts at the same time. Well, I agree with you since I posted just about the same thing.

[ForeverAmen 0]

Everyone has a right to their oppinon. You all can say this and you can say that concerning my demeanor, how my divorce has affected me so much or that you feel that I still hold alot of anger. As I said many times I don't care about that. Your oppinon of me, does nothing for me.

Some did strike a cord with me today I'll admit that. I like the susgestion of you all ignoring my posts and just letting me be. I'm hoping that the few that don't like my threads adhere to your advice.

I,m going to be me, and if I feel a need to share some information I'll do that. As for me telling all that I have been thru with Victor isn't necessary as I don't have to justify my post to anyone in here. I'll share what I want to share period. Some understand my post some don't.

Thanks for bringing to the attention of this board that they don't have to read or reply any of my posting if they find the content offensive.

As I said earlier, this was the first post that I've read that you've started that I didn't find offensive. You stated your story and didn't accuse or attack others. I read it in the vein for what it was. But for some reason you got ANGRY and VICIOUS. Boaz, says she understands your frustration, but I guess I don't. When I went through the fires with my ex-husband people in my church and family stood against me because no matter how he hit me or stole from me or hurt me or my daughter, it was not "godly" to divorce your husband. I stood against those people who I cared about and loved because I knew I was right and I knew that I had met with my Lord and had His support. The only one that mattered. You freaked out over the opinions of strangers. Why? I just don't get it. Why would you start a post in a relatively peaceful manner and then totally flip out over what strangers post? You gave it energy and power. That's a personal choice. I still don't understand why you chose to do that. It seems like a waste of time from what you claim you want to do.

Regarding knowing what you and your ex went through, if you intention is to show signs then identify the signs. There was another poster, southernchic or gal or something like that, who posted concrete things that her ex did that she didn't identify but believes were red flags. I think that's useful if your goal is to help someone prevent themselves from being scammed. It's obviously your choice to share or not share. I'm mostly thinking about what you state your goals are, versus what you are actually achieving.

I can appreciate your feedback. In addition to pointing out that I said I understood why she was starting to get upset, I also want to make a point of restating another comment I made (similiar to what you mentioned) ...Idocare "But remember .... don't let others throw you off track. You started this topic in a positive manner, and allowed others with different opinions to throw you off track. Ignore them."

Thanks.

[Ta Ta 1]

Generally speaking, it is my observation that details will not be forthcoming because it would shed a bad light on the teller of the story. The poster then would be forced to take full responsibility of his/her choices and face the music.

As I said in another thread, some people can not look within and need to project outward as a coping mechanism.

It takes courage to say I messed up myself versus it's all his fault.

In many people this courage and honesty is lacking or they are simply not ready to work through the pain and use destructive methods as

a soother, which is a type of emotional purging and projecting their pain on others.

Peace !

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everyone play nice now or i'll post my hairy back pics